User talk:JukkaX

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Hello, JukkaX, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your edits to the page Honda have not conformed to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and have been reverted. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media. Always remember to provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles.

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November 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article Honda, please cite a reliable source for the content of your edit. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. Take a look at Wikipedia:Citing sources for information about how to cite sources and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. --Dbratland (talk) 17:16, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add unsourced content, as you did to Yamaha Corporation. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Biker Biker (talk) 17:18, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

May 2014

Hello, I'm Dennis Bratland. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Yamaha YZF-R1, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Dennis Bratland (talk) 15:20, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

June 2014

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Yamaha YZF-R1. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions.

It is impossible to verify what your bike weighs. It's impossible to verify what some other guy saw on his speedometer. Or your scale or his speedometer is accurate. Wikipedia's Verifiability doesn't mean everything is TRUE. It means other people an look it up. That's all. Wikipedia is a collection of things you can look up. Please read the policy. Dennis Bratland (talk) 14:27, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No original research

Dude: no original research means you can't use "I weighed it myself" as a reason to change an article. Is this unclear? Please work within the same procedures that the rest of the Wikipedia community does. — Brianhe (talk) 15:37, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please also see MCN Performance Index. These are wet (overall, or curb) weights:

1998 451 lb (205 kg)
2002 439 lb (199 kg)
2004 (YZF-R1S) 446 lb (202 kg)
2007 449 lb (204 kg)
2010 471.5 lb (213.9 kg)

This source says for 2000, "Total weight was reduced to 175 kg." That's 175 kg (386 lb). Sport Rider says the wet weight in 2000 was 414 lbs, which is much lighter than MCN has listed for 1998 and 2002, but it's still in the same ballpark. Or see Cook, Marc. "Superbikes on the Street." Motorcyclist Apr. 2001: 39. General OneFile. Web. 21 June 2014. Wet wegight: 446 lb (202 kg), which agrees with Motorcycle Consumer News. No reliable source supports the extraordinary claim that the overall weight was all the way down to 386 lbs in 2000. Even as a dry weight, 386 lbs is highly questionable. Yamaha-motor.eu is nonsense. If anything, we should reject Sport Rider's numbers because they're too low and other sources tell us the bike was 20 to 30 pounds heavier. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 16:50, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On Yamaha YZF-R1, please don't add changed facts that still cite the original source; you're creating a misleading impression that Sport Rider said the wet weight was 401 lbs. The weights given should match the source. What are you attempting to do by changing them? Please simply report accurately what sources say. If the source says the wet weight was 414 lbs, that's what the article should say. Please read WP:NOR so you understand that your own observations are not accepted on Wikipedia articles. We're concerned with verifiability, not truth. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 21:23, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]