User talk:Klaas Woldring

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Concern regarding Draft:Proportional Representation - Party List would create a different political culture in Australia

Hello, Klaas Woldring. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Proportional Representation - Party List would create a different political culture in Australia, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 21:03, 21 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Proportional Representation - Party List would create a different political culture in Australia

Hello, Klaas Woldring. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Proportional Representation - Party List would create a different political culture in Australia".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:29, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft

Hi – I just came across the thread you opened at the Help Desk as well as the now-undeleted draft. It appears to me like you might misunderstand what Wikipedia is for and how it works (which is OK – it's confusing!). Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a web host or journal – it never accepts papers for publication, only entries like you might find in Britannica. It is also written and administrated entirely by volunteers – there are no editors paid by Wikipedia for their work (which is why you found it difficult to contact Wikipedia – there is no 'Wikipedia' to contact in the first place, really). Everyone you have interacted with here (including me) does this purely for fun.

Currently your paper is on what we call a draft page – it is not part of the main encyclopedia, and won't be seen by search engines like Google (and therefore won't be seen by the public). You expressed confusion back in 2022 that nobody had contacted you about the draft: "Nobody has contacted me in the last five months. Does this mean people are not interested??" – it is highly likely that nobody even knew the draft existed, because drafts are intended to be a place where Wikipedia editors can work in a mostly private setting. Drafts are automatically deleted if there have been no edits to them in 6 months, because they are intended as a very temporary workspace, rather than a place to keep content forever; the assumption made is that they have been abandoned by the person writing the draft.

I'm certain there are plenty of people who would be interested in your work – Wikipedia is unfortunately just not the website to host it. We'd love to have you here, though – it is fantastic when experts like yourself are willing to contribute to articles. You might be interested in contributing to articles like Proportional representation, for example.

If you have questions about any of this, or need any help related to Wikipedia in the future, please do feel free to ask and I'll be more than happy to assist. You can contact me by replying here, or at my talk page. Tollens (talk) 11:38, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Klaas, and welcome to Wikipedia. I came here to say much the same as Tollens has already said; but I'd like to add a couple of things.

First, I don't think Tollens has clarified just why your draft would not be acceptable. Judging from your title, your draft is an essay, advancing an argument. That is never acceptable in Wikipedia articles (see NOTESSAY): no Wikipedia article should ever present an argument or conclusion unless it is directly reporting an argument or conclusion already made by a single cited reliable source. (Even drawing a conclusing from what two separate sources have said is not acceptable - see SYNTH).

Secondly, writing Wikipedia articles is very different almost anything else on the web, and people who attempt to do so before they have spent time learning the relevant skills by editing existing articles, generally have a frustrating and miserable time. My advice to new editors (and I would include you - even though you created your account more than three years ago, you've made only a few edits, and almost all of them to this draft) is to put aside the idea of creating a new draft for a few months, while you make improvements to existing articles, and learn about principles such as verifiability, reliable sources, neutral point of view and notability. Then you can read your first article and try it. --ColinFine (talk) 17:09, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Colin,

I have decided not to amend this article as the purpose of it is t generate support for PR - Party List in Australia and, generally, in several other English-speaking countries. I withdraw it altogether. Clearly Wikipedia is not the right place to publish advocacy for major changes in an electoral system of a country. I consider this a pity but that is just a personal view of course. KW Klaas Woldring (talk) 00:24, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]