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Violent non-state actor
[edit]As you have done a lot of editing to VNSA now renamed to Violent non-state actor, you might like to see if you can cite sources from some of the paragraph next to which I have placed a {{Fact}} template. --PBS (talk) 11:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
The Maya Calendar and the European Agenda
[edit]The article fails WP:CSD#A7, as it does not assert the notability of the subject. Why exactly do we care about this particular documentary? What makes it unique? Can its notability be established by reliable sources? These are all questions that popped up in my head after reading your brief article. In addition, there appears to be a clear conflict of interest in your editing, as you appear to be connected to the organization behind the documentary. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 00:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- If you could address my concerns and show me reliable sources that demonstrate the subject's notability, I'd be glad to restore the article. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 00:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- In its present state, the article failed to make an assertion of notability. It simply stated that it was a documentary focusing on Prodesis. I've found only five unique case-sensitive hits for this documentary, which leads me to believe that in any case, notability cannot be established according to Wikipedia policy. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 03:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Links to your user page in articles
[edit]Howdy. I have removed a number of links from articles you have worked on to your wikipedia user page. If you/your organisation/group/team is notable enough to warrant your own page in the main encyclopaedia, that would be appropriate to link to, but userpages aren't. - TB (talk) 09:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Sleaze rock
[edit]Sleaze Rock re-directs because of a previous AfD vote by Wikipedia editors because it was determined to be a false genre that didn't really exist. Even your own original research in your attempts to undo the re-direct do not disprove this original consensus. A re-direct cannot be undone without going through the proper Wikipedia channels. Editors who continually try and re-establish pages that have been deemed re-direct by consensus can be blocked from editing if they do not use the proper channels for re-creates. The Real Libs-speak politely 21:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- I take it that your disambig page was unsourced. Regardless of how good a page looks or sounds, if the information contained is not verifiable, out it goes. I notice you mention that the definition of Sleaze Rock is different where you live. It's possible that this is a colloquial misunderstanding of the term 'Sleaze Rock', and as such is not notable enough to warrant a blocking redirect to serve a single community. Every page I've seen so far refers to sleaze rock as various types of hair metal or glam rock. Find a reliable source that says otherwise, talk it out on the talk page, and THEN, if you have support, change it. It's not easy to overturn an AFD consensus, however. --King ♣ Talk 14:12, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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Your note
[edit]Hi Mirror, the problem with the way it is written is that the sentences don't seem to mean much — the English is odd. I wonder whether the original source is not a native English speaker, or whether something has been lost in translation. I would copy edit it if I could, but I honestly don't understand it. For example,
- "One can adhere to a meaning of intrinsic value of animals in a sense that is ... behaviouristic, as a morally neutral value (like in parameter) that the animal's own species-specific behaviour seeks to satisfy ..."
What is that trying to say? SlimVirgin talk|contribs 01:07, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Animals want to exercise their species specific behaviour. If they can't they develop stress and in the long run trauma's. So they have an interest, they are stakeholders. If the term intrinsic value refers (according to someone) to the animal's urge of exercising its species specific behaviour, then that urge is a value. The animal 'measures' the difference between the actual situation, and the desired situation, and seeks to minimize this discrepancy (satify its needs). That is a behaviouristic, a morally neutral meaning of the term. It doesn't presuppose a moral actor, just the animal by itself...
- Okay, I accept that the urge has (or is) a value. Apart from that, I am lost. What is the source for this? SlimVirgin talk|contribs 01:24, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- That book is a collection of papers, I believe. Which papers are you taking the material from exactly, and what are the page numbers? SlimVirgin talk|contribs 01:46, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm wondering whether English isn't your first language, or whether the way the book is written is unclear. Can you tell me what it says exactly that was the basis of -- "One can adhere to a meaning of intrinsic value of animals in a sense that is ... behaviouristic, as a morally neutral value (like in parameter) that the animal's own species-specific behaviour seeks to satisfy ..."? And the exact page number. If I have a page number, I can perhaps look it up. Also, I see you've moved the material elsewhere. Really, it needs to be clarified before being added anywhere else. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 02:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Another interpretation of intrinsic value however, rather views the animal from a scientific (biological and/or ethological) perspective. In this conception, certain (non-moral) standards can be formulated concerning the animal's bodily functions and its interaction with the environment. Suffering can be defined as a discrepancy between the animal's actual condition and these standards. The animal's natural behaviour basically aims at minimalizing this discrepancy. The greater the discrepancy, and the longer the animal remains incapable of reducing it, the more it suffers. Baerends (1973) calls these standards expectancy-values. In this sense intrinsic value is a descriptive, rather than an moral term, and as such has no ethical dimension to it. It refers to preferences and needs of animals which, if satisfied, contribute to the animal's welfare, and if frustrated, leave the animal suffering. The animal's mental state constitutes a balance between satisfaction and frustration. There is nothing beyond interests, needs, satisfaction and frustration. (page 35)
- Thank you for posting that. I can't see how the author can use "intrinsic value" in this way. I think perhaps the problem here is that this is quite a difficult philosophical concept, and there's a language problem in getting it into WP (I'm assuming now that English isn't your first language, as this material is Dutch). In addition, you're not familiar with Wikipedia's content policies. So we have translation problems at quite a few levels! :)
- I'd be happy to help, but I'm having difficulty understanding what's being said. You can do one of two things: (a) write an article about the specific book you're taking this material from. That will allow you to be very detailed about what the author is saying, though you will have to make clear that this is the opinion of just one author; or (b) write an article about the concept of intrinsic value (animals) in general, in which case you will have to use multiple sources, give the history of the concept, say how it is used, argue for and against.
- Either way, each point that you make must be sourced: author, book or paper title, date, page number if appropriate. It can't be written as your own essay. These are the content policies that you need to read: Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research, and Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. I've started the ball rolling by writing a lead that I hope is appropriate to the title, assuming you're writing a general article and not one about that book in particular. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 19:57, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Colpo di Luna (film)
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Proposed deletion of Delta Blues (documentary film)
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[edit]Just so you're aware, PRODs ARE a call to improve an article. Once an article is prodded, it's up to you to prove how the article meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, specifically WP:NOTE and WP:V. Keep in mind that an IMBD page doesn't establish notability. Find a newspaper article or something. --King Öomie 13:50, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- I removed some of the prods on the movies and found some reason why they might be notable. Note that this doesn't necessarily mean they will be kept; someone can put them to articles for deletion, where they will at least demand more sources. (I didn't look for sources, I just went by what articles linked to them.) I suggest you read WP:MOVIE, the policy on film notability, and make sure that when you write articles you make some claim that meets something there. You might want to look at what articles refer to your article for ideas; try searching for the topic and make sure that links line up. (I found links for two of them that way). I really appreciate you doing the work to get these articles added, if they are notable, but we have to make sure that they meet the criteria for inclusion. Good luck! Rigadoun (talk) 21:28, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Your note
[edit]Sure, a disambig page at Animal ethics is a good idea. SlimVirgin talk|contribs 16:39, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
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- Hi, for the above two maps - Can you please add a source for the underlying map - it might not be free to use. Deadstar (talk) 09:52, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
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Ways to improve G. C. J. Midgley
[edit]Thanks for creating G. C. J. Midgley.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Frank Weltner
[edit]Hello Mirrormundo,
I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Frank Weltner for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
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Out Of The Loop (documenrary film) moved to draftspace
[edit]An article you recently created, Out Of The Loop (documenrary film), is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
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Your draft article, Draft:Exhibet A
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Your map of Maya populations of Chiapas File:Chiapas-Maya.gif,
[edit]Thanks for your excellent image File:Chiapas-Maya.gif. I noticed that it includes Zoque. The Mixe–Zoque languages are now not considered in the Mayan languages. I'm not volunteering to alter your map, but I might make a note of this on the Maya peoples article Permacultura (talk) 04:53, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Image source problem with File:Oral-Ataniyazova.jpg
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