User talk:Mkstokes
A belated welcome!
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Here's wishing you a belated welcome to Wikipedia, Mkstokes! I see that you've already been around a while and wanted to thank you for your contributions. Though you seem to have been successful in finding your way around, you may still benefit from following some of the links below, which help editors get the most out of Wikipedia:
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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Again, welcome! Viriditas (talk) 22:38, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know what to do in regards to edits for the Peter Schiff article. I'm trying to make honest edits that succinctly reflect both of the investigations as well as the defamation case. I'm tempted to create an entire new article just to cover the defamation case as that seems to be the point of contention. Please advise. Mkstokes (talk) 15:42, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement topic ban
[edit]The following topic ban now applies to you:
You are indefinitely topic banned from making edits related to Nick McKenzie or Peter Schiff, broadly construed.
You have been sanctioned pursuant to the consensus result of attained in an arbitration enforcement request.
This topic ban is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Editing of Biographies of Living Persons#Final decision and, if applicable, the contentious topics procedure. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. Please read WP:TBAN to understand what a topic ban is. If you do not comply with the topic ban, you may be blocked for an extended period to enforce the ban.
If you wish to appeal the ban, please read the appeals process. You are free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 02:57, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have reverted your recent edits to Talk:Nick McKenzie. It may not be adequately clear from the notice above, but being banned from a topic is generally taken to mean that you are forbidden from editing any articles or participating in any discussions related to the topic anywhere on Wikipedia, not just from editing the specific article. This will be the only warning you receive; future violations will be enforced with blocks. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:50, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- I also must warn you, based on this and this, that using a second account or editing while logged out to evade scrutiny is very strictly forbidden. I think you did so inadvertently, but from now on please make sure that you are logged in before you edit. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:56, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Ivanvector Thank you for the warnings! I didn't realize that I also wasn't allowed to comment on the talk page. I thought this was just a ban on editing the article. As for the using a second account, I forgot to login when I edited the talk page and quickly corrected it. Mkstokes (talk) 16:11, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
March 2024
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If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}
. If you intend to appeal on the arbitration enforcement noticeboard, I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily. You may also appeal directly to me (by email), before or instead of appealing on your talk page.
- Thank you. I fully understand the parameters of this block and will comply to the fullest. Mkstokes (talk) 12:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Reminder to administrators: In May 2014, ArbCom adopted the following procedure instructing administrators regarding Arbitration Enforcement blocks: "No administrator may modify a sanction placed by another administrator without: (1) the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or (2) prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" [in the procedure]). Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped."
This is embarrassing. I'm sorry to say the block was meant to be for a month, until Mon, 15 Apr 2024 14:34:04 GMT as logged at [Special:Diff/1213837215] So despite the block notice saying 31 says, the actual expiry date is in a month. You are as always allowed to appeal. Doug Weller talk 14:39, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- No problem Doug. You are an excellent and very well respected editor, so I believe your judgement here is unimpeachable. I admit I have been quite animated over the events of the past several months. I appreciate notification of the correction. Mkstokes (talk) 14:44, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your gracious response. Hopefully there won't be anymore problems going forward. It might help a lot if you withdrew your block request at ANI concerning TarnishedPath. Doug Weller talk 14:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know how to withdraw a block request when I'm blocked from making any edits on any Wikipedia pages except my own. However, I give you proxy to do it on my behalf. Mkstokes (talk) 15:27, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Doug Weller talk 15:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome, and congratulations on the success of your Chemo! I'm logging off in a few minutes, but if you need anything from me regarding this issue, just email me. I'm taking a Wikipedia break for a month. Mkstokes (talk) 16:07, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Have a good break. I think it’s likely that the other editor meant it,but you can delete most things from your talk page. Wikipedia:User pages I delete some stuff but mainly WP:ARCHIVE. Doug Weller talk 20:04, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've looked at the original mess that led to that and asked TP to avoid you, ie a sort of voluntary iBan. I'm asking you to do the same. If anything like that flares up again I think the only solution will be a no fault imposed iBan. Doug Weller talk 12:07, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think a two-way WP:IBAN is very appropriate. To be blunt, he's repeatedly been shown by me and several other editors that his interpretation of Wikipedia policies and guidelines are just wrong. Especially his interpretation of WP:WEIGHT, WP:DUE and WP:UNDUE, which actually reference the exact same policy but he cites them as if they are separate policies. This got started again because I corrected him and he called my correction an insult. I readily admit it got way out of hand and when the block is lifted I will act as if I have an active IBAN with him. I do have a question for you though. Why is MaskedSinger allowed to be uncivil in almost every interaction with editors and have no administrative action against him? There are likely 100 or more times where he's been snarky, insulting, condescending, mocking, etc. yet continues on with impunity. I'll be self-imposing an IBAN with him as well, especially since he seems to have complete immunity. Mkstokes (talk) 15:25, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have no idea about your last question though as I've not seen them much. Sorry. Doug Weller talk 16:13, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think you have an idea now, given his interaction regarding Israeli Atheletes, continued personal insults, and totally disrespectful behavior towards Admin @Bishonen. Once again, I have no intention of interacting with him when I return. But I'm still astounded that he's allowed to act like a jerk with impunity all over Wikipedia. Mkstokes (talk) 13:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have no idea about your last question though as I've not seen them much. Sorry. Doug Weller talk 16:13, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think a two-way WP:IBAN is very appropriate. To be blunt, he's repeatedly been shown by me and several other editors that his interpretation of Wikipedia policies and guidelines are just wrong. Especially his interpretation of WP:WEIGHT, WP:DUE and WP:UNDUE, which actually reference the exact same policy but he cites them as if they are separate policies. This got started again because I corrected him and he called my correction an insult. I readily admit it got way out of hand and when the block is lifted I will act as if I have an active IBAN with him. I do have a question for you though. Why is MaskedSinger allowed to be uncivil in almost every interaction with editors and have no administrative action against him? There are likely 100 or more times where he's been snarky, insulting, condescending, mocking, etc. yet continues on with impunity. I'll be self-imposing an IBAN with him as well, especially since he seems to have complete immunity. Mkstokes (talk) 15:25, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've looked at the original mess that led to that and asked TP to avoid you, ie a sort of voluntary iBan. I'm asking you to do the same. If anything like that flares up again I think the only solution will be a no fault imposed iBan. Doug Weller talk 12:07, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Have a good break. I think it’s likely that the other editor meant it,but you can delete most things from your talk page. Wikipedia:User pages I delete some stuff but mainly WP:ARCHIVE. Doug Weller talk 20:04, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome, and congratulations on the success of your Chemo! I'm logging off in a few minutes, but if you need anything from me regarding this issue, just email me. I'm taking a Wikipedia break for a month. Mkstokes (talk) 16:07, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Doug Weller talk 15:41, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know how to withdraw a block request when I'm blocked from making any edits on any Wikipedia pages except my own. However, I give you proxy to do it on my behalf. Mkstokes (talk) 15:27, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your gracious response. Hopefully there won't be anymore problems going forward. It might help a lot if you withdrew your block request at ANI concerning TarnishedPath. Doug Weller talk 14:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)