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Andy, in regard to this edit, is it wise to remove all of those focused See also entries and replace them with the functional index? Why would you do that? – Paine  15:19, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

1) Yes 2) see 1. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:55, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Translation: Andy feels it's helpful to use a centrally-maintained list {{R template index}}, rather than a bespoke one at Category:Redirects from alternative names. Nevertheless, Andy, we seem to have lost Category:Redirects from railroad names with ampersands as a result of your change. If somebody thought it important enough to include in a focused list, then it probably ought to be in a general list (which I had assumed was exhaustive, given the size of the thing). In any case, wouldn't this be better discussed at Category talk:Redirects from alternative names? Cheers --RexxS (talk) 16:11, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
To add, a centrally-maintained list reduces the maintenance burden quite considerably and effectively insures that changes will be propagated to all categories. Considering that R templates are somewhat unstable, I think the use of the navbox is judicious. Alakzi (talk) 16:22, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
It is redundant since that navbar is in all the rcats' template documentations. I don't see how even the previous See also section did anything but distract editors from the reason for a cat's existence – the entries themselves. Rcat documentation in the associated templates takes care of See also usage – that was probably one of the few, if not the only redirect cat with a See also section. Inconsistency is a confusing hobgoblin for editors, isn't it? – Paine  18:10, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
You're right about that. Perhaps the navbox could be adapted for navigation between the R templates' categories? Alakzi (talk) 18:18, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Now that's an idea that even Andy might sink teeth into. :>) – Paine  18:30, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
@Paine Ellsworth: Well, Andy's in Dohar at the moment, Wikivangelising, and what he's currently sinking his his teeth into is anybody's guess. But Alakzi is a dab hand with templates, and as he came up with the idea ... ;-) --RexxS (talk) 19:27, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Dohar? Ha - the pitfalls of being a non-rhotic speaker. ;-) I'll take a look. Have we got a table of all the templates with their categories, Paine? Alakzi (talk) 19:59, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes, there is a table with the contents of the existing navbar (functional index) as well as an alphanumeric table beneath that found at Wikipedia:Template messages/Redirect pages. The alphanumeric index is almost finished as there are still a few rcats that I need to update and add to that index. – Paine  00:54, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 May 2015

Wikipedia:Translate us

Hello. You created en:Wikipedia:Translate us. I would like to request the translation of some articles I've created into other languages. For example, Lili Bosse into Hebrew. Is there a specific Wikipage where I can post the request please (other than WP Israel)? Moreover, I would like to be a Wikipedian-in-residence at various places in London. Would you be so generous as to exchange e-mails with me about this to let me know how it works? I would then "e-mail this use." Please reply on my talkpage to make sure I see your reply. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 14:17, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Andy. I notice that the TFD on Interlanguage link templates that you opened was closed "partially support merge... Please continue the discussion elsewhere."

Do you know if and where that discussion was continued? I'm an occasional user of one of the templates, and while I probably don't have anything productive to contribute to the discussion, I want to see how it ends up so I don't lose track of the surviving template. Thanks. TJRC (talk) 17:48, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

@TJRC: Most recently, AFAICT, at User talk:Alakzi/Archive 1#Interlanguage link templates. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:36, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! TJRC (talk) 20:46, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
There's also a discussion on the talk page of {{Illm}} about changing its display format. Alakzi (talk) 19:38, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #158

15:32, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

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{{Color box}} and {{Colorbox}}

You forgot to put the <noinclude> </noinclude> tags around the {{TfM}}. Useddenim (talk) 22:05, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

May 2015

Can you stop please. There are more keeps than merges on that discussion. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:20, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Two editors who are active in the project are AGAINST it. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:27, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
The TfD was closed as merge, You and your friend don't get to overrule that. Can you stop edit warring, and making false allegations? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:29, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
I am talking about the first editor from the Asian Games, I mostly edit the Pan American/Commonwealth Games. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:31, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
I reject your appeal to authority; Wikipedia works by consensus. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:34, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
There is no consensus however!! Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:03, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes there is; it's recoded in the statement of the colleague who closed the discussion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:06, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Pending mergers

I see the WP:TFD/H backlog hasn't improved much. Are there some we could do without having to jump through hoops? Alakzi (talk) 20:01, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm about to travel, but when I get back, mid-month, I'll take a look. Feel free to remind me. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:09, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
I did {{Infobox Taiwan station}} the other day; {{Infobox China station}} is ready for replacement, save for the WP:TCATs, which I've been pondering how to handle. Alakzi (talk) 16:58, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
AWB, or a BOT? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:59, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
The issue is with putting them in the right place; if I were to simply substitute the infobox, they'd be placed right underneath it. I'd considered extracting the date and place using AWB, but I don't think that the module API has got a function for inserting categories - though I've not looked very deep, admittedly. I could ask at WP:BOTREQ - or would you? Alakzi (talk) 17:05, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
If you substitute, and place the categories under the infobox, won't one of the regular cleanup-bots then move them? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:28, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
I would think so, yes - but I wanted to avoid having to perform two edits. (And the possibility that someone would complain about my placing the categories there.) It's probably not such a big deal. Alakzi (talk) 17:39, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
@Alakzi: There's a similar issue with categories in {{Infobox comics location}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:17, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
@Magioladitis: Any ideas? Alakzi (talk) 21:10, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Alakzi my experience with subst infoboxes says that you won't avoid the double edits. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:17, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Alakzi (talk) 21:29, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Hannah, horses, hoopla

Andy, The RFCs I was referring to are here and here and most importantly here. (They are exempted from bot indexing, naturally.) The Bot request I referred to can be found here. You can read through it all but I'm not recommending it as a productive use of your time. I am not reverting you, but for the record I question the value of the edit in improving the article content. Regards Hawkeye7 (talk) 00:04, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Poppycock. Archivedotisbot has never edited Hannah Dodd. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:54, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
That's right. There was so much opposition that it was never run. Hawkeye7 (talk) 11:06, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
That has nothing to do with your misguided use of {{Nobots}} on, or your removal of {{Dead link}} from, Hannah Dodd. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:12, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

16:27, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Native names in infoboxes

Hey Andy,

I've been trying to find information regarding the use of native names in infoboxes and found only your reply here. Is there some MoS or discussion related to this you can link me (More infomaration: I'm trying to figure out what is the current style of adding native names in infoboxs - English name in header and a native_title field for original language or original language in header)?

Thanks in advance. --Gonnym (talk) 20:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #159

Infobox legislation merging

Re the Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2015_March_22#Template:Infobox_Oklahoma_legislation discussion, I plan on replacing the current templates using the {{Infobox legislation}} as an underlying template, keeping state-specific deviations (such as state seals) intact. Int21h (talk) 01:37, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Rabbi/doc

Template:Infobox Rabbi/doc has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Si Trew (talk) 07:11, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #160

Classical tables

Thank you for all your help with {{Classical discography row}}! If feasable it could be merged with {{Cantata discography row}}, perhaps to something called {{Classical table row}}, because I see use for movements of a work and performances of an artist or group also. Can we possibly keep part of the documentation separate, because a list of models for the cantata performers wold be really helpful - to copy instead of collecting the more or less same data in 150 or so cases - but clutter for people who need only help for a person's discography. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:25, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Yes; we can keep two sets of examples in the documentation; like we do for {{Infobox officeholder}} - and on separate sub-ages if necessary. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:56, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

15:42, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

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2015-06-03 Sampad

Hello Andy

Hi Andy, I like this Wikipedia training.Simi1969 (talk) 17:36, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Andy

I'm doing some wikipedia training and it is great. FurryRos (talk) 17:37, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Andy

Hello Andy. I'm doing some Wikipedia training. Ginger and Lemon Tea (talk) 17:37, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Andy

Hi Andy, this is an interesting and technical session! Kswade1 (talk) 17:37, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Andy

hi, how are you? Rubbishusername42 (talk) 17:38, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Royal Society of Chemistry

Hi Andy,

I'm possibly interested in attending, although mainly for the photographic opportunities rather than the editathon. Do you know if there's anything more to see (of photographic interest) other than this main interior? My concern as far as photography goes is that if that specific location is going to be where the editathon takes place (an assumption I'm making, perhaps you could confirm), it's going to get in the way of a nice unobscured interior photo of the building. If you have any other idea of what we could photograph, please let me know. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 17:21, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

@Diliff: Yes, we would be working in that space, the library. There are a few artworks, but they won't occupy you for a day. There are other rooms, too, but I don't know whether they'll be occupied. Perhaps we could arrange a separate visit for you? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:37, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 03 June 2015

Authority Control in TRwiki

Authority Control message of you at TRwiki village pump. I think I created all categories in Turkish and made necessary changes is module. What is next? Is there a cross-wiki bot that adds template to articles? --Mavrikant (talk) 07:25, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

@Mavrikant: Thank you; yes, User:T.seppelt has a bot that can help, if there is consensus on tr.Wikipedia. Also, it would be good if someone (you?) would kindly translate ORCID, ResearcherID etc, into Turkish. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:39, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
@Mavrikant: I would enjoy helping. -- T.seppelt (talk) 11:43, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #161

parameters.py Lua port

I've now (partially) implemented this in Lua; please see Template:Parameters. Alakzi (talk) 15:39, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

See also my suggestion to preload {{Documentation}} with its output here. Alakzi (talk) 23:09, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

I've also implemented the parameter name comparison function now; here's the comparison between {{Infobox London station}} and {{Infobox GB station}} to kick things off. ;-) Alakzi (talk) 19:33, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

{{subst:Parameters|compare|base=Infobox London station|other=Infobox GB station}}
Extended content

Identical:

  • events2
  • years2
  • years4
  • image_name
  • years10
  • caption
  • latitude
  • owner
  • platforms
  • name
  • postgroup
  • events11
  • imagesize
  • locale
  • years8
  • original
  • events9
  • borough
  • pregroup
  • events4
  • years7
  • gridref
  • symbol
  • dft_category
  • years6
  • events10
  • years11
  • years9
  • years5
  • years3
  • years1
  • events7
  • events6
  • events3
  • image_size
  • manager
  • events1
  • events5
  • symbol2
  • longitude
  • events8

Similar:

  • years12; years13; years14; years15 < years; years1; years2; years3; years4; years5; years6; years7; years8; years9; years10; years11 [years]
  • symbol3; symbol4 < symbol; symbol2 [symbol]
  • owner1; owner2 < owner; Owner [owner]
  • events12; events13; events14; events15 < events; events1; events2; events3; events4; events5; events6; events7; events8; events9; events10; events11 [events]
  • manager1; manager2 < manager [manager]

Disparate:

  • alt_name
  • alt_name1
  • image_alt
  • map_type
  • label_position
  • railcode
  • railcode1
  • railcode2
  • tracks
  • access
  • access_note
  • fare_zone
  • fare_zone_1
  • fare_zone_note
  • interchange
  • interchange1
  • interchange2
  • interchange3
  • interchange4
  • interchange5
  • interchange_note
  • cyclepark
  • toilets
  • tubeexits03
  • tubeexits04
  • tubeexits05
  • tubeexits06
  • tubeexits07
  • tubeexits08
  • tubeexits09
  • tubeexits10
  • tubeexits11
  • tubeexits12
  • tubeexits13
  • tubeexits03_ref
  • tubeexits04_ref
  • tubeexits05_ref
  • tubeexits06_ref
  • dlrbat0708
  • dlrbat0809
  • dlrbat1011
  • ctbat0910
  • ctbat1011
  • railexits0203
  • railexits0405
  • railexits0506
  • railexits0607
  • railexits0708
  • railexits0809
  • railexits0910
  • railexits1011
  • railexits1112
  • railexits1213
  • railexits1314
  • raillowexits0203
  • raillowexits0405
  • raillowexits0506
  • raillowexits0607
  • raillowexits0708
  • raillowexits0809
  • raillowexits0910
  • raillowexits1011
  • raillowexits1112
  • raillowexits1213
  • raillowexits1314
  • raillowint0203
  • raillowint0405
  • raillowint0506
  • raillowint0607
  • raillowint0708
  • raillowint0809
  • raillowint0910
  • raillowint1011
  • raillowint1112
  • raillowint1213
  • raillowint1314
  • railint0203
  • railint0405
  • railint0506
  • railint0607
  • railint0708
  • railint0809
  • railint0910
  • railint1011
  • railint1112
  • railint1213
  • railint1314
  • replace
  • listing_detail
  • listing_grade
  • listing_entry
  • listing_start
  • listing_amended
  • listing_reference
  • railstation
  • coord_region

18:18, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

2015-06-10 RSC

Hi Andy

Hi Andy! I like wikipedia editing, maybe I will buy you a beer.... ADogCalledDarwin (talk) 13:51, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello

Hi Andy, I am learning how to use Wikipedia. Thank you for teaching us. Chocolatebunny84 (talk) 13:51, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Andy

Thanks for the class Its really helpful :) Puffy molymoddragon (talk) 13:51, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Andy

From the Duke of Chutney Thedukeofchutney (talk) 13:51, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox something

I am listing at WP:RFD as I am unhappy this was done with no WP:CONSENSUS. Unfortunately my Internet just dropped in the middle of my edit to say why, so if I am more incoherent than normal, please excuse me. (Usually on a scale of one to ten I should say my incoherence was five, but at the mo it might be seven. I've got the Interweb back but if things seem even less sense than usual, let me apologise. The thrust of it is I don't see the need for multiplying redirects with spaces in editor space not user space, and the distinction I give there is not a question of technically what namespace it is but which hat you have on. These are in editor space and if they can't find an underscore they shouldn't edit.) Si Trew (talk) 23:48, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

I might sign up as a technical coordinator, dunno, I am good at that. In real life I am a software engineer. I can manage people, and do it well, but it's not what I want to do in my spare time. It could suit me cos I am a great right hand man. Never wanted to be the boss, but always good right hand man. Not a lickspittle, the boss needs someone to trust and get things done, and to say no you are wrong and I can tell you why. Because I am very thorough and can tie lots of ends together, I would be good at that. Not quite ready to sign up but you may persuade me. Si Trew (talk) 23:51, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

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2015-06-16 RSC

Hi Andy

Hi Andy, this is Fishling01, thanks for the Wikipedia training. Fishling01 (talk) 13:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

hi there

Can I buy you a beer? Hazoviolis (talk) 13:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello Andy

This is your piano talking. Only kidding, it's Ruth sitting in your training session. Ruthie147 (talk) 13:54, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Andy

Thank you for the very excellent Wikipedia training.

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Hello Andy

Greetings Andy. How about a pint? Richardalanburton (talk) 13:54, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Andy

Hello Andy, this session is very useful! Convenientvegan (talk) 13:54, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Andy

Thanks for the great training today Annette Hutchinson (talk) 13:54, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Religion in infoboxes of nations

There is an RfC that you may be interested in at Template talk:Infobox country#RfC: Religion in infoboxes of nations. Please join us and help us to determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 14:18, 17 June 2015 (UTC)