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East coast islands
hi there Rangasyd. Many years ago I was bored and was just learning about Wikipedia. I then decided to virtually go from the south of great barrier reef to Papua New Guinea mapping all the islands and islets and adding a wikipedia article for each one. I have moved on to other ventures (solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea etc) and just recently I see you aer retracing my virtual foootsteps. Anyway I wish you well and all the best. Phenss (talk) 03:56, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Phenss. I was just tiding up a few of the Torres Strait Islands by adding a navbox/template and infobox for each article that already exists. Hope all is well with you. Rangasyd (talk) 08:16, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
Infobox Australian place
Please note that "bioregion" is not a valid type in {{Infobox Australian place}}. The only valid types are "city", "suburb", "town", "lga", "region", "cadastral", "protected" and "other". Do not enter the full state name in the state
. Use the individual state codes, "qld", "nsw", "act", "vic", "tas", "sa", "wa", "nt", or use "au" for Australia, or when a region crosses state borders. The area
parameter automatically formats and converts areas in km2 to square miles. When a region is less than 100 ha (1 km2), a conversion may be used but otherwise, there is no need. --AussieLegend (✉) 18:44, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks AussieLegend. I acknowledge that interim Australian bioregions are not part of the current valid types. The question we should ask does the valid types need amending to include bioregions as one of the options? Rangasyd (talk) 10:32, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
Template
Its a bit of a monster, but I think it works. Great effort. What reference did you use for the mountain heights? What criteria did you use for their inclusion? - Shiftchange (talk) 12:57, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Yeah, it is a monster. Not too sure that there's any other way around it. I've used the list of mountains in NSW and then, where possible, refs to each mountain. Bonzle and PeakBagger have been used, yet I accept that they are both not fully reliable. There is also a good article on the ABS website that lists most of the peaks in the GDR from north to south. I'm not totally sold that it's complete, yet. Rangasyd (talk)
- BTW, I want to change the colour of the nav box to brown. How?? Rangasyd (talk) 13:20, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- Knowing I had made Template:National Parks of Queensland green I check the code. Add "| titlestyle = background:#A52A2A; | groupstyle = background:#A52A2A; | belowstyle = background:#A52A2A;" after | listclass = hlist but replace the colour code with the one you want from this list. Note that I just randomly checked five other Mountains of templates and they all had the default pale blue and that the brown colour #A52A2A doesn't contrast with the text colour well. - Shiftchange (talk) 20:38, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
- BTW, I want to change the colour of the nav box to brown. How?? Rangasyd (talk) 13:20, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
Goods Island Light house
Hi Rangasyd. I am certain that the third photo on the Goods Island Lighthouse page showing the view of the Island from offshore is not actually Goods Island but is in fact Booby Island which is lies further to the west of Goods Island. I was a visitor to Goods Island this month and the Island is much larger and much higher than the one shown in the photo. There are a number of good photos of Booby Island on the web which should assist with resolving the issue although I am not sure whether in one or two instances, negatives or slides have not been reversed. I can only suggest that the large land mass seen behind the Island in the photo is Prince of Wales island or perhaps both P.O.W and Goods Islands. Booby Island is renowned for its Post Office Cave and is roughly 18 nautical miles west of the southern group Torres Strait Islands. The other controversy, discovered while attempting to locate images of Goods Island and other light stations in Queensland waters, revolves around the correct name for Goods Island. It was originally named by Captain James Cook in recognition of the gardener, Peter Goode, aboard the H.M.S. Endeavour and should probably more correctly be known as Goode Island.
I hope this is useful. Leigh Willcox — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.208.98.214 (talk) 16:11, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
Tassie mountains
Thanks for your dedicated work on tassie mountains, it is a long time between having a reasonable editor working on them... It all looks great, but I am a bit concerned by (and it is a personal preference and not a complaint, not policy issue of 'Tasmania, Australia' too often...) it seems it flows into totally geographically challenged eds creating article titled xxx Tasmania, Australia - anyways thanks for your hard work! JarrahTree 10:26, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- Cheers, JarrahTree. I guess including Tasmania, Australia is taken from a world perspective that not everyone in the world knows where Tasmania is. A mountains template/nav box is to follow soon. Cheers. Rangasyd (talk) 10:35, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- hmm interesting to see you and shiftchange editing tas material, is it as we are in dark mofo times (ie mid winter), does this mean tassie is the new black? (in the last 7 to 8 years there have been times where the tas project has been as quiet as the lyell highway bronte park turnoff in mid winter (dont ask me the details...) for months on end, and currently apart from the weird island stuff on the east coast, its dead as a queenstown street at midnight... JarrahTree 10:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
- yeah I did not like all the climbing stuff as it stands, I have a very old copy of the pre 1980 climbing routes booklet and thought it really ia a separate article - have you ever had a mountain with a separate article about the climbing? also the early national park, way before the wilderness stuff of post 1980 has some very interesting history. thanks for your work on it, i still consider it a bit of a so so article - I used to travel past it ever second week or so over a preiod of three years almost in the mid 1970's in all seasons and all times of day and night, pity i didnt take more photos, but i didnt have a good long lens on my equipment at the time... JarrahTree 14:31, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Can't work out it got assessed as a B class article. It would be very lucky to be ranked as a C class - more likely start. Rangasyd (talk) 14:33, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- as for hamilton - i cannot for the like of me remember anything in the west coast range with that name... JarrahTree 14:58, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- and sedgwick is nowhere near where the map has it.... JarrahTree 15:02, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- Sedgwick is fixed. :-) Rangasyd (talk) 15:04, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- there is no need to have the same crap about australia in the lead and the info box surely, and the blue linking in both lead and info box is over doing it... one use of australia is enough - also on something like sedgwick there are 2 lots of the same lat long bearings - info box and above it.... it is one thing to have an info box, but to include extra linking and duplicating info seems a bit much and not wp:mos JarrahTree 15:47, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- There is no need to link to countries in leads. In fact, its discouraged and probably against a policy (I can't find it). Linking in the infobox is automatic and its doesn't matter if its duplicated. - Shiftchange (talk) 06:22, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- I have lived in Queenstown, and walked some of the mountains, I can never remember Strahan as being stated as being in the West Coast Range, please show me a damned good W my P:RS that states it is, I never included it in the article about the range, and it is separate from the range....there are also other questions above not answered, but this one is concerning - where is your rs for this one? JarrahTree 12:27, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Just chill and take some time to read Baillie, Peter (2010). "The West Coast Range, Tasmania: Mountains and Geological Giants" (PDF). Papers and Proceedings of the Royal Society of Tasmania. 144. Perth, Western Australia: School of Earth and Environment, University of Western Australia: 11–12. Retrieved 18 June 2015. Rangasyd (talk) 12:47, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- haha edit conflict and yes it is cold here in perth - whatever the reference you can dig - there are some interesting points of where some mountians on the west and south west ranges - despite being adjacent are not necessarily considered to be part of ranges... JarrahTree 12:55, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Apologies - Ok my bad (nice article - you should utilise the article more when you are editing the mountain articles - there are some very useful bits and pieces that i didnt have easy access to when i first started the articles... ) not sure where my 'separate mount strahan'idea arose - maybe Mount zeehan always seemed to get to me because it was so far west of the main range.. JarrahTree 13:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Apology accepted. According to you there are some mountains on the west and south west ranges ... not necessarily considered (my emphasis) to be part of ranges. According to the quoted source, the mountains listed, including Mount Strahan, are part of the West Coast Range, Tasmania. As to the other questions above not answered, would you please be so kind as to detail which specific questions that you feel I need to address. Further, I would appreciate that all comments to my talk page are polite and civil. Thank you. Rangasyd (talk) 13:06, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Well where do we go from here, (merge rants into one heading), if there is something that offends you that causes you to raise the civility issue, well please go ahead, mention it then... it is up to you. As for the questions - It was really just the one (you had answered the others) I had asked about hamilton on the west coast range template, I realise that proprietary is part of jukes, I wasnt sure why you would include unlinked peaks. But if you dont like being interrupted by an editor with some glitches of memory, fair enough. JarrahTree 13:28, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- I am quite concerned about the Peter Baillie reference as there is no real world connection between the Papers anbd Proceeedings of the Royal Society of Tasmania with the University of Western Australia. The article was published by the Royal Society in Tasmania - the UWA part was his contact address, it is quite a problem, as it suggest that UWA published the article - they did not, the Royal Society of Tasmania is not related to UWA in any way. wherever you retrieved it has something in error, sorry to say. If you go to the article and look above the summary of the article, you can see that the way the publishing detail literally runs into the contact address, some point it has become something which it is not. JarrahTree 13:41, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for alerting me to the Baillie oversight. The publication is a University of Tasmania reprint proceedings of The Royal Society of Tasmania. I shall correct. As to your earlier comment, your tone offends me. As does your lack of punctuation. And your occasional use vulgar language (e.g. crap). As to Mount Hamilton, please see West Coast Range#Mountains and the two references cited listing this peak. I have no hassles with being interrupted where suggested improvements to WP are made in a constructive, and not destructive, manner. For example, in the aforementioned Baillie example, you could have done some investigation and suggested that it was a UTAS reprint, instead of focusing on the negative. And with Mount Hamilton, you could have searched the Gazetteer of Australia and/or PeakBagger.com and satisfied yourself that there is such a peak, before mentioning to me that I cannot for the life of me remember... Mind you, I interpreted this comment as not requiring action by me just because you could not remember. Q.E.D.. Thank you. Rangasyd (talk) 14:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- I am quite concerned about the Peter Baillie reference as there is no real world connection between the Papers anbd Proceeedings of the Royal Society of Tasmania with the University of Western Australia. The article was published by the Royal Society in Tasmania - the UWA part was his contact address, it is quite a problem, as it suggest that UWA published the article - they did not, the Royal Society of Tasmania is not related to UWA in any way. wherever you retrieved it has something in error, sorry to say. If you go to the article and look above the summary of the article, you can see that the way the publishing detail literally runs into the contact address, some point it has become something which it is not. JarrahTree 13:41, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Well where do we go from here, (merge rants into one heading), if there is something that offends you that causes you to raise the civility issue, well please go ahead, mention it then... it is up to you. As for the questions - It was really just the one (you had answered the others) I had asked about hamilton on the west coast range template, I realise that proprietary is part of jukes, I wasnt sure why you would include unlinked peaks. But if you dont like being interrupted by an editor with some glitches of memory, fair enough. JarrahTree 13:28, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Apology accepted. According to you there are some mountains on the west and south west ranges ... not necessarily considered (my emphasis) to be part of ranges. According to the quoted source, the mountains listed, including Mount Strahan, are part of the West Coast Range, Tasmania. As to the other questions above not answered, would you please be so kind as to detail which specific questions that you feel I need to address. Further, I would appreciate that all comments to my talk page are polite and civil. Thank you. Rangasyd (talk) 13:06, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Apologies - Ok my bad (nice article - you should utilise the article more when you are editing the mountain articles - there are some very useful bits and pieces that i didnt have easy access to when i first started the articles... ) not sure where my 'separate mount strahan'idea arose - maybe Mount zeehan always seemed to get to me because it was so far west of the main range.. JarrahTree 13:02, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- haha edit conflict and yes it is cold here in perth - whatever the reference you can dig - there are some interesting points of where some mountians on the west and south west ranges - despite being adjacent are not necessarily considered to be part of ranges... JarrahTree 12:55, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- Just chill and take some time to read Baillie, Peter (2010). "The West Coast Range, Tasmania: Mountains and Geological Giants" (PDF). Papers and Proceedings of the Royal Society of Tasmania. 144. Perth, Western Australia: School of Earth and Environment, University of Western Australia: 11–12. Retrieved 18 June 2015. Rangasyd (talk) 12:47, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- I have lived in Queenstown, and walked some of the mountains, I can never remember Strahan as being stated as being in the West Coast Range, please show me a damned good W my P:RS that states it is, I never included it in the article about the range, and it is separate from the range....there are also other questions above not answered, but this one is concerning - where is your rs for this one? JarrahTree 12:27, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- There is no need to link to countries in leads. In fact, its discouraged and probably against a policy (I can't find it). Linking in the infobox is automatic and its doesn't matter if its duplicated. - Shiftchange (talk) 06:22, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- there is no need to have the same crap about australia in the lead and the info box surely, and the blue linking in both lead and info box is over doing it... one use of australia is enough - also on something like sedgwick there are 2 lots of the same lat long bearings - info box and above it.... it is one thing to have an info box, but to include extra linking and duplicating info seems a bit much and not wp:mos JarrahTree 15:47, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- Sedgwick is fixed. :-) Rangasyd (talk) 15:04, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- ok so my tone offends, fair enough, noted. thank you for correcting the baillie issue. JarrahTree 14:33, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
- hmm interesting to see you and shiftchange editing tas material, is it as we are in dark mofo times (ie mid winter), does this mean tassie is the new black? (in the last 7 to 8 years there have been times where the tas project has been as quiet as the lyell highway bronte park turnoff in mid winter (dont ask me the details...) for months on end, and currently apart from the weird island stuff on the east coast, its dead as a queenstown street at midnight... JarrahTree 10:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Assuming AGF and civility
Lead sentence or paragraph says something is in the west coast range, and you remove the category. Please explain. JarrahTree 12:46, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
- Hi. Would you please directly point me to the edit(s) concerned? Cheers. Better still, instead of filling up my talk page, add your comments on the talk page of the article in question and direct me there using {{tb}}. Thanks. Rangasyd (talk) 13:11, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
- OK, missed keeping tab of it, mightnt get back to the diffs in the short term. Regardless of your attitude towards me and my style on wiki, I must say your improvement of the articles that have lain untouched and unimproved (most for as long as you have been an editor) is much appreciated, and thank you.JarrahTree 13:32, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
- Ah-ah you found the clue to it all[1] the book is brilliant, and well worth chasing down as it has material never ever likely to get online.. cheers JarrahTree 13:36, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Gordon
You are the only person ever to answer a query/qualify a point on a talk page from 7 years ago, that I have ever sighted on my watch list, thank you... JarrahTree 14:36, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
John Butters Hydroelectric Power Station
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give John Butters Hydroelectric Power Station a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into John Butters Power Station. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.
In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 06:24, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Infoboxes of hydroelectric power stations
Hi, Rangasyd. I have noticed that you have replaced replaced {{Infobox dam}} with {{Infobox power station}} and have used fields which are specifically designated for the pumped-storage power stations. As a result, the infobox provides incorrect information stating that these power stations are pumped-storage power stations which they are not. Please be aware that infobox documentation states: For hydroelectric power stations involving dams (except tidal facilities), please use {{Infobox dam}}. The infobox for hydroelectric power stations was integrated with {{Infobox dam}} and the {{Infobox power station}} does not supports the specific information of ordinary hydroelectric power stations. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 06:52, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- Noted. Thanks. Do you want to do the clean up; or prefer me to do it and you review? Rangasyd (talk) 06:58, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Beagel. I've now gone through and fixed them up. Would you please cast your eye over them and have a look. There is one pumped storage station. Which infobox should be used? The list is located here. Thanks. Rangasyd (talk) 13:46, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
replacing 30em with 2
please provide your source/policy/practice that justifies your edit at strahan airport [2] I had been taken to task by another editor whom I considered having a valid point to change to 30 em rather than '2' and now i find you change it, why?. thanks JarrahTree 08:23, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- Golly gee. Do you have any constructive edits that you would like to contribute to my page or anything that I'm trying to do to improve the geographic features of Tasmania? If you feel so strongly, change it to 30em. I'm not that precious that I'm going to revert; unless you continue to poorly use punctuation. Rangasyd (talk) 08:39, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- To focus on someone elses talk items rather than the question seems to be a problem for you. I was asking a question, you have not answered it by referring to my punctuation. I was curious, as you seem to have a good knowledge of coding and formatting issues, it was a genuine WP:AGF query, nothing to do with being precious about anything I thought you might know about the issue of coding diffs between \2 and 30 em, you dont seem to offer any info, so lets leave it at that. JarrahTree 08:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- Not correct. Please see above re my use of incorrect template. When the right tone and correct punctuation and grammar is used by an editor, I'll respond accordingly. When it's not, I'll respond accordingly. As to why, it looked messy to the naked eye. That's my personal view. Rangasyd (talk) 09:16, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the answer JarrahTree 09:36, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- To focus on someone elses talk items rather than the question seems to be a problem for you. I was asking a question, you have not answered it by referring to my punctuation. I was curious, as you seem to have a good knowledge of coding and formatting issues, it was a genuine WP:AGF query, nothing to do with being precious about anything I thought you might know about the issue of coding diffs between \2 and 30 em, you dont seem to offer any info, so lets leave it at that. JarrahTree 08:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- separate subject - the western tasmania template is very good, would you be interested in creating the same for south west tasmania? JarrahTree 09:39, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
With grammar and punctuation like that and you annoying me every five seconds, pass. I think I'll go back to another state and hope I can work in peace. Rangasyd (talk) 09:45, 28 June 2015 (UTC) Rangasyd (talk) 09:45, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
central highlands
the template looks good!! JarrahTree 00:44, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- and thanks for doing the south west template JarrahTree 14:06, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Now the articles all need info/geoboxes: {{infobox mountain}}, {{infobox island}}, {{geobox}} (river), {{infobox body of water}}, etc. Wanna help? Rangasyd (talk) 14:26, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the asking, I start a new day job tommorow... so my spare time has gone...for maybe 6 months or more... I will try, over time... To be grammatically incorrect, you have done an amazing job, the Tasmanian project hasnt had anything like this level of input since it started, as a former sometime Hobart and mainly Queenstown resident I would clearly need to take you down to the local pub and pay for a round or three the way you have made the project more usable, I am sure your hard work will encourage people to see things easier, and how it can be improved. As for the rest of the project my severe blind spot is the east coast, and the separation points of of the north, east and southeast. Also a FYI, I was trying hard to re-write every island article created by maias, as I disagreed with his lead sentences, if I go back to that, the infobox can be added at the same time. The south west still has about 150 other features I havent even ventured into yet (also). Anyways early down for the new job, cheers JarrahTree 14:37, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Without over-emphasizing the issue, to have neatly and cleanly separated regional info boxes for the south east, east coast, and northern tasmania like you have done for the west, south west, and central highlands (with a possibility of a north west, midlands, and north east as parts as well) - would probably be a wildest dream. JarrahTree 14:54, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- I prefer to get a region close to finished beofre moving onto another region. In other words, I want to finish off West, SW and Central Highlands before moving onto the east, including the Midlands. For example, I started with the mountains, then moved to the power stations, rivers and dams and lakes, etc. As to the SW, let's start with the islands... there are so many: Eddystone; before and after. Rangasyd (talk) 15:52, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- what I see is brilliant, it all makes the project so much more accessible and searchable, as to your method, it sounds good and methodical.JarrahTree 13:37, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- I cannot wait to see what you will do with Southwest_National_Park it is such a horrible article - graphic design layout and text, I hope you can do something for it! JarrahTree 14:13, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- South West Tasmania isn't much better. The SWNP top map is all skewered. I'll remove it from the infobox and replace it with an image. Someone has gone overboard with the panoramas. Hope your first day at the salt mines was not too painful. Rangasyd (talk) 14:27, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, coal face would be more appropriate... but that is a long story, I shall not... etc
- South West Tasmania isn't much better. The SWNP top map is all skewered. I'll remove it from the infobox and replace it with an image. Someone has gone overboard with the panoramas. Hope your first day at the salt mines was not too painful. Rangasyd (talk) 14:27, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- I cannot wait to see what you will do with Southwest_National_Park it is such a horrible article - graphic design layout and text, I hope you can do something for it! JarrahTree 14:13, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- what I see is brilliant, it all makes the project so much more accessible and searchable, as to your method, it sounds good and methodical.JarrahTree 13:37, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- I prefer to get a region close to finished beofre moving onto another region. In other words, I want to finish off West, SW and Central Highlands before moving onto the east, including the Midlands. For example, I started with the mountains, then moved to the power stations, rivers and dams and lakes, etc. As to the SW, let's start with the islands... there are so many: Eddystone; before and after. Rangasyd (talk) 15:52, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Without over-emphasizing the issue, to have neatly and cleanly separated regional info boxes for the south east, east coast, and northern tasmania like you have done for the west, south west, and central highlands (with a possibility of a north west, midlands, and north east as parts as well) - would probably be a wildest dream. JarrahTree 14:54, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the asking, I start a new day job tommorow... so my spare time has gone...for maybe 6 months or more... I will try, over time... To be grammatically incorrect, you have done an amazing job, the Tasmanian project hasnt had anything like this level of input since it started, as a former sometime Hobart and mainly Queenstown resident I would clearly need to take you down to the local pub and pay for a round or three the way you have made the project more usable, I am sure your hard work will encourage people to see things easier, and how it can be improved. As for the rest of the project my severe blind spot is the east coast, and the separation points of of the north, east and southeast. Also a FYI, I was trying hard to re-write every island article created by maias, as I disagreed with his lead sentences, if I go back to that, the infobox can be added at the same time. The south west still has about 150 other features I havent even ventured into yet (also). Anyways early down for the new job, cheers JarrahTree 14:37, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Now the articles all need info/geoboxes: {{infobox mountain}}, {{infobox island}}, {{geobox}} (river), {{infobox body of water}}, etc. Wanna help? Rangasyd (talk) 14:26, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Template layout - National parks, etc
Re South West Tasmania navbox: National parks / Other conservation areas are listed as
I do hope you dont mind, a very small request - effectively under international law etc. World Heritage Area is the over-arching - encompassing container category (I keep thinking of creating a new category to indicate component properties and sites). Then it is the national parks a components F-G, SWNP and any other NPS that lie inside that (includes cradle lake st clair) are then the next part - as they are WH but also NPS. The Bird Areas are diff and should be separate. I do hope that makes sense, I fear if I touched it, my magic touch might destroy the template... JarrahTree 14:40, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- My thoughts are to just group them all together as one and remove the segregation. Once you segregate one, you need to segregate all. Hence, we should aggregate. The aggregated title could read Protected areas, parks and reserves. There are seperate navbox for National Parks of Tasmania, etc. Comments, please. Rangasyd (talk) 14:54, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Perhaps if you are going to ignore the legal heirarchy/governance/responsibilities, then if aggregated - alphabetical order ? JarrahTree 14:58, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for your consideration of that issue. Sign I need to get off for the night, I realise I had just created a south east tasmania category, only to find I had created the southern tasmania category, some time back, with a comment on that category that the term is synonymous with south east, and then remembered that on commons one can create redirects for categories, I dont think it is kosher here on wp en... so, ooops, I am off , goodnight. JarrahTree 15:12, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Perhaps if you are going to ignore the legal heirarchy/governance/responsibilities, then if aggregated - alphabetical order ? JarrahTree 14:58, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
List of birds of King Island (Tasmania)
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The da Vinci Barnstar | |
Really nice work at List of birds of King Island (Tasmania). Your creative approach has payed off. There is a whole series (hundreds) of "List of birds of ..." lists that could be treated this way. I'm looking at your work to see what would be involved in doing that other places. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 16:51, 11 July 2015 (UTC) |
Lake Pedder
Was, and in some peoples minds, still, a controversial issue, and has its own category. JarrahTree 11:28, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Trinity College Beenleigh
Hi, Briana from Trinity College Beenleigh here. Just wanted to touch base with you on the recent Association of Marist addition you made to the Trinity College Beenleigh Wikipedia page. I have left it in place as it all looks legit :) However could I ask that you make contact with me directly via email: [email protected]. With thanks. Briana Whalan. Systems and Communication Support. Trinity College Beenleigh. [email protected].
- Hi Briana. Thanks for your message. In the spirit of Wikipedia, please communicate with me via my talk page (here). If the matter is sensitive, I can set up a private page for us to discuss the matter. Thanks. Rangasyd (talk) 11:20, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Convert units
I see you added some {{convert}}s to Blue Lake (South Australia) and Lake Alexandrina (South Australia). Good! However, convert has a minor issue with regard to units like "e9USgal e9impgal" which does two things automatically, namely use the space to make a combination of two units, and use e9 for a scaling factor. That causes it to do some unnecessary work. I can explain more if you like but convert's inner workings might not be of much interest. Here is my request: if you plan on doing more of these, please use "+" instead of space when joining engineering notation units like e9USgal. I just cleaned them up, and I did about fifty a week ago, and there were also Australian lakes/dams as I recall. An example of what I'm talking about is:
{{convert|1610|GL|e9USgal+e9impgal|abbr=on}}
→ 1,610 GL (430×10 9 US gal; 350×10 9 imp gal)
A space is fine generally, but "+" works better with e9 and e6 etc. When a space is used, the article appears in the "what links here" list for Module:Convert/extra. Thanks. Johnuniq (talk) 10:29, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for your thanks. I will use "+" for future use of {{convert}}. The Australian lakes/dams that you corrected about a week ago were probably ones where I used a space! Rangasyd (talk) 10:58, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
lake maps in WA
Please fix up those absub push pin maps you are adding the scale is so ridiculous that the pin is covering 100km2 for sites of less than 1km2 Gnangarra 09:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC) for scale the map you are using covers 2,529,875 km² thats 1/3rd of Australia or a tad over 1400 times the size of greater London Gnangarra 09:54, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, Gnangarra, for your constructive feedback. Have a lovely evening. Rangasyd (talk) 10:04, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- and still you continue to use it.... Gnangarra 10:38, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- and still, you continue to offer (un)constructive feedback. {{Infobox body of water}} contains details on how any editor should use the information at hand. If you feel that I am not using the template correctly, perhaps you may like to point how to use the template so that it meets your standards. A specific example of one of my recent edits may be a good place to start. If you feel that the template requires amending, please take this discussion to the talk page. Alternatively, feel free to edit, constructively. Rangasyd (talk) 10:48, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry you dont understand magnitude of the scale and distances nor the area being covered by the map you are using. I'm asking you to stop adding the map to WA articles as its unconstructive when so far out of scale. Gnangarra 10:55, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- bloody hard to discuss while you continue editting, this edit its in the Perth area you should be using that map Gnangarra 10:58, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- edits reverted giving up you continue edit while I try to discuss this cant be bother with dealing with pointy stuff Gnangarra 11:01, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Having watched this conversation, I do not think you understand the issues, it is not to with the template as such.
- the bodies of water and lakes within the metropolitan area of Perth do not need a map of the state of western australia.
- gnangarra has asked you not to add a map of the state, when the body of water is located in the metro area.
- try looking for a more suitable map of metropolitan Perth, then place that in the template. JarrahTree 11:04, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- If the template does not fit smaller than state areas, it needs amending so it can fit smaller regions JarrahTree 11:06, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- I understand your points and thank you both for your constructive edits. The issue appears to be the lack of suitable Location map of Western Australia for Perth. Assuming you are both happy with that, then the maps will be removed for lakes located in the greater Perth region. Where they are outside Perth, I see it prudent to include a locator map to place the lake in the state. Rangasyd (talk) 11:15, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- There could well be an argument for considering a regional scope for most - Regions of Western Australia - as the original point from Gnangarra points out the relative innacuracy of the pin and the coverage in a state map. I would consider that a state map might not be suitable in most cases, and if regional maps are available, use them. One of the reasons for the Regions of Western Australia article and the component regions, is that a number of natural and man made features have already been allocated regional categories or lists, for the simple reason that Western Australia is a large state, and things like pin maps are very misleading in most contexts. JarrahTree 11:21, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- There are no locator maps for WA other than for the whole state. The template requires use of a locator map only. WA would benefit from locator maps for its regions. Rangasyd (talk) 11:32, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- There is indeed a need for regional locator maps for all states of Australia, just a matter of time to identify either free of impediments versions, or an appropriate map creator on wp en... JarrahTree 23:50, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- There are no locator maps for WA other than for the whole state. The template requires use of a locator map only. WA would benefit from locator maps for its regions. Rangasyd (talk) 11:32, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- There could well be an argument for considering a regional scope for most - Regions of Western Australia - as the original point from Gnangarra points out the relative innacuracy of the pin and the coverage in a state map. I would consider that a state map might not be suitable in most cases, and if regional maps are available, use them. One of the reasons for the Regions of Western Australia article and the component regions, is that a number of natural and man made features have already been allocated regional categories or lists, for the simple reason that Western Australia is a large state, and things like pin maps are very misleading in most contexts. JarrahTree 11:21, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- I understand your points and thank you both for your constructive edits. The issue appears to be the lack of suitable Location map of Western Australia for Perth. Assuming you are both happy with that, then the maps will be removed for lakes located in the greater Perth region. Where they are outside Perth, I see it prudent to include a locator map to place the lake in the state. Rangasyd (talk) 11:15, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Having watched this conversation, I do not think you understand the issues, it is not to with the template as such.
- edits reverted giving up you continue edit while I try to discuss this cant be bother with dealing with pointy stuff Gnangarra 11:01, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- and still, you continue to offer (un)constructive feedback. {{Infobox body of water}} contains details on how any editor should use the information at hand. If you feel that I am not using the template correctly, perhaps you may like to point how to use the template so that it meets your standards. A specific example of one of my recent edits may be a good place to start. If you feel that the template requires amending, please take this discussion to the talk page. Alternatively, feel free to edit, constructively. Rangasyd (talk) 10:48, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- and still you continue to use it.... Gnangarra 10:38, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Doing parameters wrong on {{Infobox body of water}}
For example, on Lake Wooleen, with this edit, you removed the {{convert}} templates from |length=
, |width=
and |area=
. This is a required template. If the template is removed, the article ends up in this category. You have two options, either keep {{convert}} or use |length_km=
, |width_km=
and |area_km2=
Bgwhite (talk) 08:37, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Noted. Rangasyd (talk) 08:41, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Accolade
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Thanks for making so many Australian geography articles bright and shiny. Shiftchange (talk) 11:06, 27 September 2015 (UTC) |
- Thanks from me too! Your contribution to Queensland rivers etc is much appreciated. Kerry (talk) 20:56, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Great work as always on our waterways, but in relation to the Dawson River, I think the cited Bob Katter must be confusing the Dawson River Irrigation Scheme with one of the post-WW1 soldier settlement schemes. While the reasons given (poor soil, inexperience) were problems for some of the solider settlements, they weren't the problem with the Dawson River scheme (which wasn't a soldier settlement scheme, it was heavily promoted at immigrants). The Dawson River Irrigation Scheme failed because Ted Theodore never raised the loan to build the Nathan Dam on which the whole scheme depended. To support a family it was estimated that you needed about 40 acres of irrigated land or about 1000 acres of dry farming land. Based on the very effusive government marketing materials, people bought small blocks (which were affordable) in the belief they would be irrigated by the dam. Ted Theodore switched his sights to federal politics, the loans were never obtained, the dam was never built, and farmers were left to dry-farm on blocks too small to support themselves. The black soil in the area is of good quality for crop farming so long as you have the water. See these 1930s newspaper reports [3] [4] [5] [6] about the failure of the scheme. Officially in the 1930s the dam was "postponed" for 25 years and then was conveniently forgotten. Ironically in the last decade the Nathan Dam plan has been revived, not for agriculture but to support mining in the Surat Basin. They are working on the revised environmental impact statement at the moment (supposed to be released for public comment at the start of this month -- but hasn't been so far as I can see). Are you OK if I update the info in the article and remove the Katter citation? Kerry (talk) 23:40, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Kerry, I have no issues with an improved reference. I agree that the cited Katter reference is confusing, on multiple levels. e.g. Theodore did not do anything personally, it was his Government, presumably when he was the Queensland Premier and not a Federal MP. So, please edit away, as you see fit. Rangasyd (talk) 08:03, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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Goulburn Correctional Centre
Hi there, I noticed you added the bulk of the history portion on the Goulburn Correctional Centre. If you don't mind me asking, do you have any sources or places where I can find more info about this prison? Many websites seem to have just copy pasted your info (for example http://www.worldlibrary.org/articles/goulburn_correctional_centre#cite_note-records-3) and the main source in the article is broken. Thanks! Skydragon11 (talk) 00:05, 24 December 2015 (UTC)Skydragon11
- I've fixed the broken link. Any other questions? Rangasyd (talk) 12:45, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
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