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Pratishtha Sharma

Most important thing about writing an article in Wikipedia is understanding how to provide reliable references. Please check out WP:RS on this. Some of the references you are providing are facebook pages such as this edit (facebook pages not reliable); or some page, where referred information is not found such as this in this edit. All these additions are deteriorating quality of the article and such changes can get deleted by any one. Also, you may get blocked from editing for making such changes.--GDibyendu (talk) 17:51, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Rusianejohn, I see (above) you were told this SIX YEARS AGO! The problem is still absolutely current, on the same article, too, and you have had more than enough time to improve your editing since then. Here is what I just wrote on the article's talk page: Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:25, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I see you are continuing to add to the problematic references mentioned above some weeks ago, so we ought to discuss the matter a bit more. I think there are several related issues here:

1) there are far too many references given for individual claims, but

2) the sources are often extremely weak, being

2.1) unreliable sources such as YouTube (pretty much never suitable as sources, actually)

2.2) passing mentions, being mainly about something else

2.3) all the same, being (say) many regional newspapers all repeating some news report, adding no weight to the claim

What should be done instead is

A) to provide one (or maybe two) strong Reliable Sources for each claim, establishing the facts beyond dispute; and these sources need to be

B) independent and impartial, that is to say Secondary, not connected in any way Sharma.

The kind of source needed is a major national newspaper, textbook, or academic review paper.

The other thing that is unhelpful in the sourcing is that authors, dates, publishers, even titles of articles are not being given, all we're getting is naked URLs (web addresses). These quickly go out of date, making verification very difficult. Could you please start using a decent citation format, preferably a citation template like

{{cite book |author=Doe, John |title=Dance |publisher=Bloggs |year=2019 |pages=123–125}}

- that would be very helpful. Thank you. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:25, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Once again, I see you are making unexplained changes to the very same article. Please could we discuss the matter? I have explained very clearly and at length that the sources you are using are not suitable, so there is no point just putting them back without discussion. If Sharma is notable, then there will be reliable sources showing that, and you can use those. If not, we will have to consider alternatives such as redirection, merging, or deletion. I look forward to your reply. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:08, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

need some time, you have deleted many relible sources with youtube links. you tube links are also not of some fake interviews but of episodes uploaded by renowned new channels on their youtube channels but that is ok i can understand that it can be deleted. but need to review. its and old page with many sources which was more than reliable at the time of update but may be obselete. this page is of personality who is a celebrity and currently posted as cultural ambassador by India government. i am trying to put the old and new links again but it will take time. but i am not satified with the edit done by you completely. also article is on the personality from india so hindi articles must be there, the india language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rusianejohn (talk • contribs) 09:09, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks for replying (I have moved the comments here so we have a single thread of discussion), that is much appreciated, thank you.

1) YouTube is NOT a reliable source and can basically not be used to demonstrate notability. It might sometimes be usable for external links but that's about it. You will appreciate that a video clip may show that someone is performing, but it is not an independent judgement by a third party (not Sharma, not an editor) of notability.

2) I have looked through the article's history, and it does not seem to have been reliably sourced at any time. If there were good sources like The New York Times I would have found them by now, I had a good look, but there is nothing like that in the article or in its history.

3) Sources in Hindi are permitted, but you cannot use minor newspapers, blogs, forums, chatrooms, or social media like Twitter and Facebook.

4) You cannot reinsert the kinds of links that I removed as they are not reliable, independent, third-party evaluations. Quite different and much stronger sources would be needed. I do hope this is clear.

Thank you again for discussing. It is clear to me that we are still far from reaching agreement on the application of Wikipedia policy to this article. It will help greatly if you read the policy on reliable sources, it is not too long and it explains clearly what kinds of source are needed. Many thanks, Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:22, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

thanks for the suggestion, review needs time , you have deleted more than 100 link, you tube links were few, kindly discuss before making changes. for the indian personality indian news paper link will be there with hindi language. need to undo to rectify — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rusianejohn (talk • contribs) 09:19, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Please discuss HERE, it's no good having fragments in 2 places. YouTube is an example; all the links I saw were very weak. As for discussion, it is well under way, and I hope you too will refrain from trying to edit the article until we reach agreement. You cannot just undo to replace the old links, they were not suitable as we need reliable third-party sources. I do not know what your ability to understand English is (what is your first language, and how comfortable are you in English?); I believe you'll be able to read Wikipedia policy in other languages. Minor Hindi newspapers are unfortunately not usually reliable; many of them just copy news reports from other sources, and so if five of them all report a concert, it's probably only one report; and a brief mention that a concert was held on such a date, with such a list of dancers and players, one of whom was Sharma, is not a sufficient mention for notability in any case.

To move the discussion forwards, why don't you list HERE (BELOW) what you feel are your 4 or 5 best (strongest) sources where an independent journalist or reviewer describes Sharma's dancing in detail, rather than just reporting that an event occurred, and we can analyse the sources' quality together? Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:31, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Source 1:

Source 2:

Source 3:

Source 4:

Source 5:

talk being an old wiki user i know the terms of usage of wiki. you have quoted 6 year back notification which was followed that time only with out any argument with the sender so it is misquoted here now as we old users follow policy of no arguments and dis-harming others genuine contribution. you will never find user like me to do huge massive change to any article of a contributor except suggestion and this is the way how wiki works. here we do not discriminate between any country, religion, language etc and same we expect from new users as well. here there is no use of quoting new york times a personality is from India so mainly links will be from same country. this way we make articles and to check weather source is reliable or not you must have to gain that knowledge and info. you have used warning and other links which i never used as being a moderate user. this is not the way to insult others and being adamant to your demands. this is discrimination.Rusianejohn (talk) 12:12, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

I am not insulting anybody. I have asked you not to make major changes to the article WHILE we are reaching agreement on the way to proceed; I would do the same regardless of where you were from. I have asked specifically for the top 5 sources you believe show that Sharma is notable; so far you have not provided any. I believe that effectively all the sources in the article are too weak to be usable; it does not matter which country they are from, or which language they are in, provided they are independent of Sharma, go into detail about her rather than being brief casual mentions (e.g. that Sharma was one of a dozen artists at a show would be a casual mention), and are from a reliable source: the NYT was just an example of a source that we all agree is reliable. I have failed to find any source that I could use, and I spent some time looking; all you have to do to convince me is show me some sources. Between 3 and 5 good sources is normally sufficient to demonstrate notability. So far, I have seen none. If you have good sources in Hindi, please name them with URLs, so I can look at them with Google translate (it's not perfect, but quite enough to give a general idea of notability and coverage). Many thanks, Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:06, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

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March 2019

Please stop adding unsourced or improperly sourced content, as you did on Pratishtha Sharma. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

Please also note that EDIT-WARRING by repeatedly undoing a change that has been well explained to you, WHILE a discussion is ongoing this very minute, is completely unacceptable here on Wikipedia. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:32, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks for undoing your reversion. Now, let us please use the space to identify the sources (1 to 5) that I suggested above, so we can reach consensus on how to improve the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:39, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

talk checking all the deleted links, news paper links of other language which you have deleted are national level hindi news paper with millions of circulation. hindi is indians main language. but no worries i will try to find other links.

Thanks for looking, but from your remarks you are looking in the wrong places. Sources are fine in any language, Hindi certainly included. The problem is the quality of the sources; many Hindi newspapers do not maintain their own networks of journalists or independent arts editors, instead relying on copying agency notices without editorial input. A press release copied on to 5 local newspapers is still a press release, and confers no notability. I do hope this is clear, as this discussion seems to be going in circles. If you could just read the policy on Notability and the one on Reliable Sources, all this discussion would not be necessary. I can assure you I'm giving it full attention; your complaining to all and sundry is ignoring the fact that I've asked you, today, to name your sources, and so far you have not provided any. I'm waiting to hear what they are (with URLs or other exact details, please). Many thanks for your attention to them. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:52, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

To show you what I mean, I have checked the sources in the article one by one and marked up which ones are dead, which seem to be primary, and have added quotations to show the few that are reliable. Unfortunately, none of those good ones are sufficient as they are just brief mentions.

I am very happy to be convinced that some of the Hindi sources are good and reliable - best would be if you could provide URLs and quotations (in Hindi or better translated with Google Translate) so we can see if they are suitable. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:45, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

i am working on it, will share the link soon. what do you suggest , shall i put it here or add to the article directlyRusianejohn (talk) 17:29, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Here would be best for now. I have to go now, but you can look at the article where I have indicated problems with individual sources also. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:40, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

here are few new links and few old with narrations you can check, rest i will send later

List of sources - review

Article on her on Indian artists website- https://www.artists-india.com/clasical-dancer/Acharyaa-Pratishtha

--- ? Seems to be WP:PRIMARY, site invites artists to submit their own summary, not good for notability but might be usable for biography with care.

ok, also we have source as mentioned by you in article

supporting tv celebrity , regular show video in india most popular news channel abp news (earlier star news) https://www.abplive.in/videos/yoga-in-2-mins-by-acharya-pratishtha-know-how-to-cure-sciatica-543884 https://abpnews.abplive.in/videos/acharya-pratishtha-watch-how-you-can-get-glowing-skin-via-yoga-149932

--- N Video, not usable.

i suggest can be use just as proof of tv show she did

Possibly, but it's a very minor source, and basically almost anything else would be better.

Acharya pratishtha biography https://www.veethi.com/india-people/pratishtha_sharma-profile-4118-42.htm

--- N not attributed or dated, source unclear - doubt if we can use this.

ya may be very old, almost 13-14 year old

AS cultural ambassador, Deputed by Government of India as director of world largest Indian culture center abroad. - http://www.iccr.gov.in/content/indira-gandhi-centre-indian-culture-mauritius

--- Source would be fine, but Sharma is not mentioned on the page.

now her name is pratishtha saraswat after marriage, sharma surname she rarely use now. she popular now as acharya pratishtha.

? Source mentions "Mrs. Partishtha (sic, mis-spelled) Saraswat" without saying anything about her role. Not usable for notability. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:57, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Author- one of the 5 Book written by her link - https://books.google.mu/books?id=sacHBAAAQBAJ&pg=PA86&lpg=PA86&dq=pratishtha+saraswat&source=bl&ots=F1WuyKJ_dp&sig=ACfU3U3qY2ljlPevqotsWIghxBqX9PBBLQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiP5cCxrarhAhU8A2MBHUuUBKQQ6AEwFHoECAcQAQ#v=onepage&q=pratishtha%20saraswat&f=false

--- N WP:PRIMARY - we need not the book itself but independent, reliable reviews OF the book.

understand your concern but we did not mention any thing about content of the book in article.

If all you want to do is list her books, you do not need sources other than https://www.worldcat.org/ to look up full publication details, but a list of books does not establish notability. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:57, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

In between top ten gurus in global yoga exchange conference organized by government of china at sanya city china- http://en.explorehainan.com/sitefiles/hnly_en/html/zxzx/activity/18469.shtml

--- N Not a great source in any case, but it also does not even mention "Sharma".

dont know much about the site as you may not know much about chinese site ownership, same sharma she rarely use now after marriage. but it shows about her participation and same is mentioned as she works /invited internationally for her work. this is a mega event by chinese government. but you will not find anything on google as it is ban in china.

About Acharya pratishtha with pic as top gurus from india for global yoga exchange conference sanya city china organized by government of china where yoga teachers from many countries participated

http://en.sanyatour.com/explore/events/international-events/sanya-global-yoga-exchange-conference-kicks-off-in-yalong-bay/ http://hellosanya.com/m/news/338.html

--- ? Source is just a tour company (weak/doubtfully usable), and mention is a photo and a one-line "passing mention". Not really usable.

dont know much about the site as you may not know much about chinese site ownership, same sharma she rarely use now after marriage. sanya tour is i think Chinese company under Chinese government.

1. ^ In news about new book release yoga for healthy life, book release/ https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IpKjWw3gZ9I/WHE0wG51d2I/AAAAAAAAD_A/zHyX_bBbItgHmv-Uw3OP3ZFl3zRvTsUxACLcB/s1600/03-SAHARANPUR_pg-%2B14-02-09.jpg

--- N Blogs very rarely usable (exception would be on a major journal's site/from a famous journalist)

can be used to support as she authored the book. no where mention in article that book is best selling or great.

also reference 15 in article mentioned that her book was launched by ambassador of india to jakarta at republic day celebration. news is from jakarta news not from india so reliable and in english.

2. ^ In news about invitation and meeting with the President of India and president appreciates her contribution for Yoga and Indian culture (with Photo) /http://epaper.amarujala.com/sc/20170915/07.html?format=img

--- N barely usable unless you want to say "she met the president".

this is news about her visit on president house , also picture showing she is with president and news mentioned president appreciates her work. these news are issue by president house in india. in India no body can meet president easily and you can not take your mobile, camera etc. so news paper take those news from president house website. though i am not indian but this much i know.

3. ^ in news about invitation and meeting with the President of India and president appreciates her contribution for Yoga and Indian culture (with Photo) punjab kesari president meet/http://epaper.punjabkesari.in/1357646/punjab-kesari-uttar-pradesh-main/Uttar-Pradesh-Main#page/5/2

--- ?, looks like same event as (2), wouldn't add any notability

same answer as above

4. ^ Jump up to:a b Represented and performed Indian classical dance at an event slice of India organized by Embassy of India,government of India at surabaya city Indonesia, news coverage with photo in surabay tribune news paper /http://surabaya.tribunnews.com/2013/03/14/bharatanatyam-dan-kathak-dance-buat-kagum-mahasiswa#sthash.VRORc5Vi.dpbs

--- ?, need detailed quote/translation in English please to decide - we can only use detailed ("substantial") accounts, not short passing mentions in accounts of other events

this news clearly mentioned she perofrmed at surabaya in a reputed festival. news is from indonesian news paper beyond control of subject. can be used as proof of her performance, same is mentioned in article that either she visited or performed in many countries or international events. now where mentioned how she performed.

5. ^ In news Launching of the one week festival on eve of 50th independence day of Mauritius by Acharya pratishtha her self with culture minister of Mauritius and high commissioner of India in Mauritius/https://www.lemauricien.com/article/semaine-indienne-spectacles-populaires-en-vue/

--- N fails WP:PRIMARY

again same, proof of promotion culture in other countries as cultural ambassador.

6. ^ complete video of press conference Launching of the one week festival on eve of 50th independence day of Mauritius by Acharya pratishtha her self with culture minister of Mauritius and high commissioner of India in Mauritius /http://ionnews.mu/55-artistes-indiens-dont-kavita-paudwal-a-maurice-pour-le-india-week-130418/

--- N fails WP:PRIMARY. Not sure we can use video; #7 and #8 seem to cover what is needed here.

need to scroll down, first news is some other, same , can be used as proof of launching event as cultural ambassador promoting culture. news from mauritius site, video with narration.

7. ^ In news coverage in hindustan news paper for honored with prestigious Ayurveda award 2018 in presence of various dignitiaries from government of Mauritius /https://www.livehindustan.com/uttar-pradesh/saharanpur/story-acharya-prestige-honored-in-mauritius-2261003.html

--- ?, need detailed quote/translation in English please to decide - we can only use detailed ("substantial") accounts, not short passing mentions in accounts of other events

can be used as news about she honored with award in mauritius. only as proof. otherwise how will you prove she got such awards.

8. ^ In news coverage in amarujala news paper for honored with prestigious Ayurveda award 2018 in presence of various dignitiaries from government of Mauritius /http://epaper.amarujala.com/saharanpur-city/20181111/04.html?format=img&ed_code=saharanpur-city

--- ?, need detailed quote/translation in English please to decide, and it looks like same event as (7) so basically no help (doesn't add notability, better to have 1 good source than 10 poor ones)

Y for "award in Mauritius" only. (or use #7 for same thing but not both)

can be used as news about she honored with award in mauritius. only as proof. otherwise how will you prove she got such awards.

9. ^ In news coverage in jagran news paper for honored with prestigious Ayurveda award 2018 in presence of various dignitaries from government of Mauritius /https://www.jagran.com/uttar-pradesh/saharanpur-ayurved-samman-saharanpur-18624094.html

--- ?, same as comment on (8)

same as above

10. ^ In news for appointment as the one of the 5 steering committee member of world Hindi conference. 3000 participants from 46 countries participated in the event/http://epaper.amarujala.com/saharanpur-city/20180821/07.html?ed_code=sc&format=img

--- ?, need detailed quote/translation in English please to decide - we can only use detailed ("substantial") accounts, not short passing mentions in accounts of other events

this is a government event, same can be used as she is of such level that she is one of the five steering committee member for such a huge government of india international event. only this is required

Y for fact "steering committee member", again we are scratching around for tiny snippets, what we need is some critical approval of her work. Otherwise the whole article will be WP:SYNTH (or WP:OR) in absence of any kind of overview of her work by an independent critic or journalist.

11. ^ In news about chief guest on conclusive day of work shop organised by world hindi secretariat in which conclusive day was started by her address, in this event scholar fron other countries also participated in the event/https://hsumauritius.org/world-hindi-secretariat-mauritius/creative-writing-workshop-world-hindi-secretariat/

--- N - we can only use detailed ("substantial") accounts, not short passing mentions in accounts of other events

news about event, same is inside the article, we did not mentioned what she spoke. goes with the heading and content.

12. ^ Complete news about culture center headed by Acharya pratishtha in which she has orgnised and leading various events with external affairs minister of inida and various delegations/https://www.govserv.org/MU/Phoenix/225828540946697/Indira-Gandhi-Centre-for-Indian-Culture-MauritiusRusianejohn (talk) 06:14, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

--- N - source would be great but doesn't mention "Sharma" on page

now she uses surname saraswat after marriage but not sharma, now she is popularly known as acharya pratishtha. sharma some time media uses but only those journos who is writing on her since than.

Many thanks for this excellent research, I don't have time now but will come back to it.

I suggest that we remove all the links in the article except (probably) these ones, it will be far stronger for it, and then (once checked) we can remove the Notability tag. Good work. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:50, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Summary so far: Many of these sources say too little about Sharma to be usable; several do not even mention her name so they are not usable. Others depend on what the Hindi text actually says about her - so we need translations I'm afraid. There will need to be a whole paragraph about her (written by an independent journalist); text written by her or her own agent is not usable other than for basic facts. Nothing I've seen so far contributes to Notability. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:11, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

please see above clarifications below your comments, sharma is the not her first name, her first name is pratishtha and sharma is her sur-name before marriage. now her sur name is saraswat.

secondly now she is populary known as acharya pratishtha. the world renowned kathak performer and yog guru with more than 40 tv show on national and international tv channels on her credit. she has honored with plethora of awards now. recently she was awarded by government of India as top 100 women of India.

so the sources where sharma is not mentioned is usefull,

the lines which is mentioned for her is news for her achievents only as you must have noticed as for eg she got such awards --- than news link related to the award. those lines does not mention any other thing. also culture ambassador, than on government website link supporting that line. as on those heading nothing much mentioned except she has done tv shows, got awards, culture ambassador etc and not explaining her expertise or character so all that goes what mention in lines. 

for examples she has done that much tv show- than no explanation is needed except proof of tv show

second she has performed in many countries than either news from that country/ invitation/ etc will be the proof supporting lines

third author- in this contributor has not claimed she is great author but only proof is she has written books so proof is required either book launching news or book etc and we do not need article on book as we are not claiming book is best seller

fourth yog guru- than we need to show she we have news link like she is taken yoga work shops, tv shows for yoga, news links about that etc.

choreographer and performer- than need proof like she performed world wide so in support needed news link of that countries etc.

news paper news can not be agents, we can not presume that, as we can not purchased them in all countries. so we can be watch dog only but can not be blood hound at the same time.

hope you can understand my point.

Perhaps, but I doubt that any of the above can contribute to WP:Notability. The number of discussion threads is becoming impossible to follow: really I don't see any usable sources up there at all. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:57, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

More possible sources

few more such links supporting that lines are below-

13. ^ Honored at dusshera festival committee at the ramlila ground in front of gathering of thousands, news coverage with photo while receiving honor and standing with artists and performers. /http://epaper.amarujala.com/sc/20161010/08.html?format=img

--- Can't evaluate without translation

14. ^ In news on invitation as the yog guru for the international Yoga week rishikesh, its is world largest yoga festival where participants from 110 countries participate organized by government of uttrakhand state India/http://epaper.amarujala.com/sc/20170227/05.html?format=img

--- Can't evaluate without translation

15. ^ Complete news article on her with photo to be appointed as the first women and youngest member to be appointed in 13 member QCI yoga protocol steering committee formed by government of India on the initiative of prime minister of India. committee/http://epaper.amarujala.com/sc/20170319/09.html?format=img

--- Y for fact "appointed to steering committee".

16. ^ from the website of ABP News(Earlier Star news India) episode of popular regular show 2 minute me yog on abp news where she is explaining yoga for the slim waist. /http://www.abplive.in/videos/2-minutes-yoga-here-is-how-you-can-have-slim-waist-538383

--- N WP:PRIMARY

17. ^ News article and photo about on her yoga session taken in Parliament of India for the parliament members, where she explained about yoga , she is the first female yoga teacher to do that in most secured parliament of India. news/https://www.religionworld.in/bharat-yoga-session-with-acharya-pratishtha-ji/

--- ?, no use for notability, Y for fact "teaches yoga".

translation below--

Indian Yoga Edition before International Yoga Day New Delhi, May 25 On the occasion of International Yoga Day, the Chairperson of the Indian Youth Commission, initiated the yoga exercise in Parliament House. This session was about 2 hours ago. Acharya pratishtha increase the knowledge of the participants about yoga and gave daily yoga tips to them. She has given daily tips for Indias youth development. At the time of Conclusion acharya pratishtha took questions from participants and answer their queries After this explained the meaning of yoga.

18. ^ ^ "e-brochure - PRATISHTHA - www.artindia.net - Indian classical performing arts". artindia.net. Retrieved 2 October 2014. Old Article on her with picture

--- N per WP:PRIMARY

https://www.artists-india.com/clasical-dancer/Acharyaa-Pratishtha

19. ^ News article in Amar ujala news paper with photo when she was invited as celebrity judge at Miss India Indonesia peagent held at Jakarta the capital of Indonesia. /http://www.amarujala.com/news/states/uttar-pradesh/pratishtha-sharma-kathak-exponent

--- ? basically very little here on her, possibly Y use for bare fact of giving beauty tips etc.

can be easily translated and news is from old and renowned paper from India, please see translation---

       Another achievement in the name of yoga and dance guru Pratishma Sharma, who is illuminating the name of Saharanpur internationally, is going on.

She will give yoga and kathak tips to the beauties participating in the World beauty pageant in 2014.

The organizers of Miss India World Wide have signed them for this.

Acharya prestige is currently participating in the final round of Miss India Indonesia in Jakarta as Judge.

Prior to the final round judgments, on the request of the organizers of Miss India World Wide, Pratishtha wished everyone's mind with a magical stirring and emotional presentation of Kathak.

The mixed presentation of Indonesian Dance Fusion and Frogash with Kathak has sparked the iridescent color of Indian culture at international level.

On this presentation, the Indian ambassador to Indonesia gave him a standing ovation, while Australian fashion designer Sheeshan Smith gave the title of Magnetic Personality.

The organizers of the Miss India World Wide contracted the Acharya Prestige to give tips on yoga and kathak to the beauties participating in the World beauty pageant in 2014.

Pratishtha has given credit to this achievement to Mother , Father , Dance Guru , who has been promoting the art of dance-theater.

20. ^ In news with photo about her appointed as the chief choreographer at festival weave of friendship organized by government of India with joint venture with government of Indonesia to celebrate the year of 100th years of Indian film Industry/http://www.jagran.com/uttar-pradesh/saharanpur-10748149.html

--- ?, very little here; Y for bare fact of being choreographer.

translation below again from a renowned news paper with record of highest circulation in India

Pratishtha Deputed as chief choreographer Publish Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:25 AM (IST)

Jans, Saharanpur: Pratishtha Sharma, who has illuminated the name of Saharanpur in Yoga and Dance, has been chosen as Chief Choreographer for the Indian Film Festival in Jakarta.

In this film festival organized by Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Ministry of Information & Broadcasting and Textile, Indonesia's renowned designer Didit Maulana fashion show and Hindustan kathak dancer and Yogacharya Pratishtha Sharma have been created as Chief Choreographer in the form of the Korean Telegraph to Bollywood. Will be the main attraction of the program. During his foreign visit, he has prepared Choreographer in Indian dance form on the 100th anniversary of Indian cinema, with sixteen dancers from Jakarta. Artists are very excited for this. In this, foreign artists will also be present in their direction. Reputation recognizes that any dance that has been made of modern form or new clover has originally originated from Indian classical dance and this thought has been shown in its choreography. There is a dedication to the stars in the cast. After participating in the dance competition organized by the Indian Club of Jakarta on 22nd September, after the memorable choreography prepared by the reputation of foreign students in the Indian Film Festival today, by giving their kathak performances in Bali Island in October Return to the city and dance talent of Saharanpur in India College of Performing Arts, Berichag. Will formulate a new structure. On the other hand, All India Anti Terrorist Front state president Manish Kalra and Vasudev Nirmohi said that the prestige of the country will be welcomed on returning to Saharanpur.

21. ^ New on government of India portal of ICCR Ministry of external affairs india news letter in which news on her when Ms.Pratishtha Sharma performed with her students for charity function by International women foundation in front of president of Indonesia Mr.Jokowi as chief Guest /http://iccr.gov.in/sites/default/files/newsletter_pdfs/News%20Letter.pdf

--- N - sorry but this counts as a brief passing mention, not a substantial report, so it is no use for notability. Y It however proves one fact, that "JNICC kathak dance teacher Acharya Pratishtha Saraswat and her students performed at the 47th Annual Charity function organized by Women International Club of Indonesia in Jakarta Convention Centre on 19 November 2014" with Megawati Sukarnoputri present.

22. In news when Governor visited her Institution and about her performance^ Photo & news/http://epaper.punjabkesari.in/493962/punjab-kesari-uttar-pradesh-main/-uttar-pradesh-main#page/7/2

--- probably N, another small mention

23. A bilingual news about her participation in Indonesias most popular tV show “I Like Dangdut” on the news portal of ICCR ministry of external affairs, Government of India. She is the First Indian to be Invited and participate as guest in Indonesians most popular TV show. ^http://iccr.gov.in/sites/default/files/newsletter_pdfs/News%20Letter%20Bilingual%20January%20-%20February%20issue%2022%20June%202015.pdf

--- N, just a chat show, and only a brief passing mention report too. The government report is certainly reliable but this sort of material does not contribute to notability.

24. ^ in news amar ujala news paper about coverage of “ek sham pratishtha ke nam” meaning one evening with Acharya pratishtha” organized during festival of books “pustak mela” organized by Government of Uttar Pradesh, India performance/http://epaper.amarujala.com/sc/20151208/07.html?format=pdf

--- N, just a book event report

25. ^ In news about her famous presentation “Krishan-the perfection” with her 14 students at the tagore theater , chandigarh India during the famous “basant festival” she performed this ballet more than 100times in many countries including Gulf countries. The Tribune news paper about performance in chandigarh/http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/chandigarh/community/krishna-s-life-depicted-through-kathak/357870.html

--- N (press release) This says "Choreographed and directed by Acharya Pratishtha, an acclaimed yoga and kathak maestro, the show had been staged more than 150 times in India and many other countries." (basically, a passing mention) - then we get ? "The highlight of the performance were graceful dance mudras and body expressions by Acharya Pratishtha." (actually a review contributing a tiny bit to notability, but just one sentence, really a very brief mention, not what we need). This is in the right direction but still at "hmmm, borderline" level, not at "Yes! Definitely notable!".

26. ^ In news about her famous presentation “Krishan-the perfection” with her 14 students at the tagore theater , chandigarh India during the famous “basant festival” she performed this ballet more than 100times in many countries including Gulf countries. The Tribune news paper about performance in chandigarh/http://epaper.indianexpress.com/1089984/Chandigarh/February-1,-2017#page/27/2 Rusianejohn (talk) 17:36, 31 March 2019 (UTC)Rusianejohn Rusianejohn (talk) 18:26, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

--- N again, a very brief mention: also, the words are very similar to #25, raising the likelihood that the warm words are actually press release material copied by both newspapers, not actual independent review.

I would like to add that so far, I'm seeing multiple examples of unusable or very doubtful sources. I have looked through these 26 for you, and since none of them score Y I would suggest we stop, on the assumption that notability for a a WP:BLP (Biography of a Living Person) article is not likely to be established.

We should really be looking for just 3 to 5 of the STRONGEST sources - if this is all we can find, then the case is hopeless. I've asked repeatedly for translations, google translate will be sufficient, as the newspaper sites contain many articles mostly irrelevant here so it's impossible to guess where the right bit to translate is! What we need are REVIEWS BY INDEPENDENT CRITICS - I've seen nothing like that yet beyond one brief sentence. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:11, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

translated above good links in English where you mentioned need translation, can be translated easily through google. you can cross check. below are the few more good links including government and reputed sites, covers all content--

Thanks, there are a few small "usable" items, but completely lacking any overview or critical appraisal.WP:SYNTH is a major problem with this sort of fragmentary evidence.

1. Very Important link from Government of India website of International festival in English Language, about her, you can check https://internationalyogfestival.co.in/yog-gurus&id=133

--- N WP:PRIMARY - can be used for basic facts of biography but no use for notability, please read WP:N to understand this.

2.this is the link about her on the website of international yoga festival owned by a renowned University (DSVV- Dev Sanskriti vishwavidalaya) in India cater students from all over the world and here name is also acharya pratishtha sharma http://yogculturefestival.com/presenters.php

--- N WP:PRIMARY, same problem again. This is taking a lot of time and finding NO SUITABLE MATERIAL.

---also front page link http://yogculturefestival.com/ 3.this link also you can translate in any language of the world as its a popular website which caters all https://www.religionworld.in/bharat-yoga-session-with-acharya-pratishtha-ji/

--- ? translation doesn't work here, and it doesn't seem to be front page. I think you mean the pages listed below.

4."her full article" on this website also/ = PRIMARY, UNUSABLE https://www.religionworld.in/exam-is-stressful-exam-brings-tension-exam-creates-anxiety/

--- N WP:PRIMARY

5.In english/ https://www.religionworld.in/acharya-pratishtha-inaugurated-the-convocation-ceremony-of-igcic/

--- Y for bare fact "inaugurated the ceremony in Mauritius". We are not establishing notability with any of this material.

6.brief article on her in English with the surname pratishtha sharma/ https://www.hellomyyoga.com/content/100-most-inspiring-yoga-teachers-india

--- ? (maybe usable for bare biographical facts) --- Well she's certainly in good company here, but there is no evidence that the text is not WP:PRIMARY - most likely, the website asked each person for a brief description of themselves, or lifted it from other sources.

7. In English heading on leading news channel/ https://zeenews.india.com/news/videos/special/yoga-tips-transform-your-every-day-life_1612340.html

--- N WP:PRIMARY

8. complete article on Pratishtha sharma on very reliable website/ http://www.the-saharanpur.com/2017/08/interview-acharya-pratishtha-sharma-yogacharya-kathak-eponent.html?m=1

translation below, you can also translate directly depends on the browser you use, there may be minor errors- 

--- N WP:PRIMARY - interviews are of very little use for Wikipedia; we can possibly quote a few words of what she says about herself, but it doesn't contribute to notability, which is lacking in ALL the sources here.

Saharanpur, year 1985 . A girl about two years old The leg came on a scream and he died. Father said, 'Papa, this scarf died.' The father asked, 'How do you know that he died?' The girl's answer was, 'It is not doing anything. They do not do anything. ' ... In New Delhi, the year 2001 organized by the ICCR, a dance teacher performing kathak dance in front of the then Information and Broadcasting Minister Sushma Swaraj. The master of dance is keen to get the introduction of Sushma Swaraj, pictured with the dance of this girl, and after seeing her, she says, " O God! You're just too small Such dance dance at this age? ... Iceland, May 29, 2005

. Five prominent dancers and other artists representing India, representing the cultural representation of India with President APJ Abdul Kalam, are in talks with the President of Iceland's capital, Ricciawiq. Iceland's first lady, looking at the youngest, looks at this dancer asking her age. Due to not understanding their foreign accent, the lady of India, seeing the woman standing in dilemma, comes and whispers in her ears - this is asking you for your age! ...

Iceland, May 31, 2005. In the dignified presence of the presidents of India and Iceland, this dance instrument has been undertaking the Kathak dance performances and it is taking an initiative to descend from the stage of applause, that APJ is so proud and excited by this dance presentation given by India. This dance attracts the sadhika to the heart. After this, with the two presidents and their families, this dance-seeker keeps on churning a long and intimate conversation. ...

Qatar, October 2009  : "Hey, we were just thinking about this program, who would be mad who would be going to see Kathak! But then read about yourself on the internet and think that let's see are. so do not look good will come back up. you are so wonderful. If Kathak that everything that you have presented to us like Kathak today! " ...

Do not want to know - Who is this dance instrument which is glowing on the sky of classical dance like the Jazzali Nakshatra? This dancer and yoga teacher representing India in three Gulf countries including Japan, Indonesia, America, England, Iceland and now Yemen, Qatar are certainly proud of our Saharanpur.

We have brought for you a special dialogue from Saharanpur's disgruntled young dancer and yoga teacher Acharya Prestha Sharma .

When and how did you get the information that you have to go to Gulf countries to perform kathak dance performances? Prestha

Sharma : Actually, I am the selected artist by the ICCR (Indian Council for Cultural Relations), but I am probably the youngest artist among the artists selected by ICCR. This council sends eminent artists from the country abroad for promotion and spreading of Indian culture and for this purpose I too have been passing through various countries. This time also I was informed that for me six or seven countries travel

Nearly one month program is being made. Due to my pre-determined schedule, I had to shorten my schedule and thus set a 15-day tour of three countries. It was about to go in August but after the month of Ramzan it was more appropriate to go, so the program was finalized for October.

Who were the artists with you? Was all these familiar? Prestha

Sharma : It was a solo performance (single presentation), whose responsibility was on my shoulders. I had taken four associates with me who live with me for reading Tabla, Sarangi, Vocal and Poem.

Are not there so many performers in such programs? That was the only impression I had.

Prestha Sharma: Generally it happens that a large group is sent in programs organized in foreign countries where many artists have to give their own presentations. On the panel of ICCR, such artists are selected, who are also sent alone. Since I am also one of them, my responsibility to keep the country's respect for the success of the program and the continuation of the honor of our country increases even further.

In the Gulf countries, programs have been organized before you or for the first time ....?

Prestha Sharma : No, this was the first opportunity to travel to Gulf countries and I enjoyed it completely. Japan, Indonesia, United States of America, England, Singapore etc. had the opportunity to go, but this was the first time in this direction.

When there is so much going to go, then do not have to make more preparation?

Prestha SharmaNow, think of me being a woman, how can I go abroad on a foreign trip without preparing for heavy things without preparing for work? Many new dresses have been prepared by going to Saharanpur. Yes, you heard right! I have satisfaction in applying my clothes in Saharanpur only. Two pair of wheels purchased so that even a bad work did not stop. Similarly, the Tabla player also took two pairs Tabla together. We are the kind of artists who do not understand the customs officers, so they open it open and investigate. On being sent to the program sponsored by the Government of India, we are given a White Passport which sits in the category of highly specialized guests. So, on any custom we do not have to go through the difficulties for which custom is known.

Yes, it is of course that a large part of my preparation is my food. Being fully vegetarian, I take ready to cook food with me to be prepared. This can be called a special preparation. This time I had to go to Gulf so I thought that vegetarian food would be scarce there and so I had taken a little more.

What theme did you choose for your presentations and whether it had any special purpose? If you have told something in the ICCR, what kind of performances will the people of the Gulf countries want to see!

Prestha Sharma: No, this was not said anything but yes, so much so that I knew that the people there were gazelles and crazy people. But my theme was - "Dance with Divine" because the purpose of sending it to me was to introduce the world to Indian culture. The kind of presentations that the people of the country are watching there, if I give them the same presentation, then my going will be futile, thinking that I dare and prepared my program with the title Dance with Divine. This characteristic of Kathak is that we can live the life of various folk stories, spiritual greats etc. through the dance through the dance form. Dancing is not meant to shake the body in a particular way. Through dance, we can tell the story, so I also selected some stories from Indian language. The theme that was published in the promotional material there, That was the same. These productions were highly appreciated by the blessings of the Lord and the Gurujans.

Was your audience familiar with you?

Prestha Sharma : Not only in direct form, but today the world has become a village by the grace of the Internet. My profile was only published with promotional material. Some people also see those who watch the programs of my yoga on Zee Network.

Many times after the productions came to me and say, "Hey, we were thinking about this program, who was thinking that who would go crazy! But then read about you on the internet and think about that If you do not like it then you will get up and come back, but you are wonderful. If Kathak is everything that you have presented then we like Kathak from today! "Such reactions While meeting with the place, I thanked the Lord for success in doing the work that my country sent me.

How many shows have been in total?

Prestha Sharma : There were seven programs organized in all three countries.

Have you had difficulty in communicating with your audience in Gulf countries?

Prestige Sharma : The audience of Yemen only had a problem understanding English, otherwise the English was becoming a contact language everywhere and there was no problem. In Qatar, there was more Hindi than Hindi which was a pleasant surprise for me.

In Yemen, I continued to address the audience in a very simple English and had learned some popular words in Arabic such as Kaif Halak, Om, Shukran. And of course, I had kept a very popular folklore in Arabia. I can not say in words that after presenting this Arabic folklore to the conclusion of my presentation, the people of the country welcomed me and honored me in so excited manner. For a long time people stood and clapped.

While introducing the program, I had requested the audience in the inaugural session that language problem is in our midst, of course there is a language of sympathy which is ubiquitous. Neither Hindi nor Hindi to understand it, neither English nor Arabic. Today, we will talk about sensitivities, only in the language of new rasas, we will talk in the language of dance and I hope that you will understand this language easily and enjoy it.

Did you promise to get some memorable moments of this journey ...? Have you brought some pictures with you?

Prestige Sharma: I remember my promise to you completely. I could not get the video recordings, yes, there are some pictures that you can share with the readers of The Saharanpur.com. There are very good memories, very good people meet us there. Mr. Pravin Verma, Ambassador representing My Country in Yemen, First Secretary, Mr. Mahendra Khurana, in the Indian Embassy of Yemen, continued with us for four days. I am overwhelmed by his hospitality spirit. In addition to these Indian officials, cultural ministers of Yemen are also present at every show; all these high officials are worrying about us, they are engaged in the arrangement of every comfort and convenience. They are class-wise saints!

In the queue, the house itself, experience the same environment as our country and its credit is to the Indian Culture Center. They had made every possible arrangement for us so that we would not have any problem.

If you have an invitation to go back to the Gulf countries then you want to go?

Prestha Sharma: why not ? In countries where people have so much admiration, love and respect, who will not want to go again? My various presentations - Makhanchori, Paniharan and Ramayana were able to understand the audience in a very intelligible way. I think that the reason for this may have been that their roots have been found in very deep, Indian culture. The language is different, the dialect is different, the dress is different, the religion is different, but on the cultural ground somewhere, there is some similarity. People of America, people of England are very different from us on the cultural ground but I did not think about the Gulf. So, I started experiencing a connection with them and gave an opportunity to meet them, shared my point of view, their culture with them, thanks to our Government of India, ICCR.

- Editor The Saharanpur Dot Com

9. link of news paper with translation as well/ https://www.livehindustan.com/uttar-pradesh/saharanpur/story-acharya-prestige-honored-in-mauritius-2261003.html

translation (google translation, may be some minor errors, can be cross checked)---

--- Y for bare fact "awarded Ayurveda award in Mauritius". Says very little about her.

Yog Guru Acharya Pratishtha was awarded the International Ayurveda Award on the last day of the 5-day Ayurvedic ceremony in Port Louis, capital of Mauritius. Every year in Mauritius Association of Ayurvedic Doctors Mauritius is celebrated as Dhanvantri day i.e. Dhanteras as Ayurvedic Day.

Indian High Commission jointly organized by the Mauritius and Ayurvedic Doctors Association, Mauritian Government Minister and Attorney General M. Gobiin, Mauritius High Commissioner (India) J. Gobardhan, Officials of the High Commission of India, World Hindi Secretariat Mauritius Secretary Vinod Mishra, Sanatan Dharma Ramdan, Head of Temple Federation, Acharya in the presence of Secretary of the Ministry of Health of Mauritius RP Nabath Reputation urged to make part of your life taking yoga and Ayurveda people respect. Acharya Pratishtha said that Ayurveda is the gift of India to the world, which is a unique example of the generosity and broad thinking of the Indian sages. Those who did not limit the Ayurvedic and Yoga-like teachings to the boundaries of India. Explaining the deep relationship with the nature and spirituality of Ayurveda, he said that Ayurveda is a non-violent medical system where after the maturity of the herbs, it is taken by nature not by unnatural exploitation but by soliciting it with welfare. National Presidency on behalf of Ayurvedic Doctors Association Radhiksun and Vice-President Dr. Gopouli honored Acharya Pratishtha Ji with the award of Dhanvantri Ayurveda and said that this is honor of Ayurveda, yoga and classical dance made by the honorary reputation and the sacramental therapy of India.

10. Article on her yoga by Ms.Kadam/https://www.rozbuzz.com/article/4e22cf7e4efb3d5415f7bd13329f96ea Translation below--- Acharya Pratishtha gave special yoga tips on the occasion of International Yoga Day! Author-pratikshad kadam Wed Jun 21 2017

Your lifestyle has become very stressful at present. At times, we often get annoyed. This same anger caused great losses. But there is also a solution in Yoga. Through yoga, we can get rid of anger. Acharya Pratishtha has given some special yoga tips on the occasion of International Yoga Day.

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Gomukshasan to control anger:

Bring the legs forward to make it easy. Then bring both legs together and sit in such a situation.

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Then take both hands forward and match them together.

Then close your eyes and take a deep breath and get rid of it.

This seat will stabilize your mind.

This seat will calm down your mind.

Make the process five times.

Second Action: Atlas Asana

In this action, take your hand up and make it happy. Let us laugh at this action. If you do it thrice a day, you can get rid of anger.

Abdominal breathing:

In this process put one hand on the stomach and the other hand on the chest. Then breathe the stomach and breathe in. Make this action five to ten times.

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This article represents the view of the author. The application only provides the WeMedia platform for publishing articles.

10.About the author on renowned publication house website/ http://virtuouspublications.com/Authors.aspx

          it is in English, need to scroll down a bit.

--- N -- again, WP:PRIMARY, and worse it cites this Wikipedia article! No use at all.

11.complete interview by leading Indian Hindi News paper/ https://www.jagran.com/uttar-pradesh/moradabad-city-16190995.html

translation below through google, may be minor errors

--- N -- interviews are WP:PRIMARY, not usable.

--Moradabad:

World Yoga Master Padmashri Dr. Bharat Bhushan's daughter and renowned Yogacharya Pratishtha Sharma Yoga says that for the first time a government is moving ahead with the foundation of Indian culture and traditions. Changes are possible only through establishing and implementing ethical values ​​in society. Yoga is also an important part of it. Through this, the country has got a different identity on the world screen.

He will initiate yoga to the seekers on Tuesday, in the practice session of the Mahashivar, which will be held on World Yog Day from Moradabad, on Tuesday. On Monday, he was the guest editor of Jagran. During this he also gave the interview to the correspondent. Introducing its edited excerpts: -

Q: How do you feel about representing yoga camps abroad?

Answer: There is a pleasant experience, when you get a chance to make a presentation before the Tricolor. I am not known by my name, neither from town, nor from caste nor from morning, but as an Indian, the head gets lifted proudly.

Question: You are a live example of daughter Beti teach. how do you feel?

Answer: With the blessing of Gurudev, achievements have been found in life, this is the subject of most joy. I feel that I have tried to break this myth with my hard work and God's grace. The daughter can do everything.

Question: How do you see the future through yoga?

Answer: In the future, I want to do welfare through yoga and spirituality. I can promote yoga even in small towns and villages.

Question: You are a well-known spiritual master and classical dancer. Dance is considered to be the only entertainment medium. What do you say?

Answer: People hear and understand what they are served. I made the people understand the medical side of dance in my programs and public lectures. How is this the easiest way to meet the Lord? Made him realize him

Question: Did you have a difficult moment in this journey?

Answer: These flowers have inherited me, you have not seen my bitten bed These lines show that nothing in life without struggle is achieved, hard work with determination to achieve any goal. We should not adopt a short cut to reach the goal.

Question: What is going on in yoga at the government level?

Answer: Mokshayantan is a part of almost all Yoga committees of the country and is fully active. Gurudev and all the activities of Yoga on behalf of the entire Mokshayatan family are our all types of cooperation.

Question: What is the main purpose of Mokshayant Yoga Institute?

Answer: Since the year 1973, the institute has done the work of power, restraint and service of the country, in connection with the worship of the revered Gurudev Swami Dr. Bharat Bhushan. Mokshayatan has the same purpose that India has a better place in the world. Various projects of the Institute are being run by a number of projects related to various national organizations including Bharat Yoga, Live Blood Bank, Sanskar Education, Gym, Publications Cultural Cell, Beti Bachao Beti Teacho.

Question: Gurudev is your father, what is his message?

Answer: Gurudev believes that if yoga is started from childhood then crime will be completely eliminated from society. We have assumed the scope of health only because of which society is going to collapse today.

Question: You also go on the social issues as speakers on the channels. Recently you have a big discussion on patriotism. What is the connection with yoga?

Answer: The country has nothing to do with mere yoga but not everything. We are the country then we are. If not the country, then we do not. Now we also have some responsibility to give something to the country and society.

Question: In addition to being a Yoga Guru of the lowest age, you are the first woman Yoga Guru, how do you feel?

Answer: I believe it is a divine grace. Lord chose me for this task. There can be nothing better than benefiting everyone with the classical yoga of India. Until you do not do any good for anyone in the day ie do not do any good, then do not sleep.

Question: How are you feeling at the program of Dainik Jagran?

Answer: Dainik Jagaran has made a good effort. Jagaran's social concern is the first choice of readers.

Question: Any message for readers of Jagran?

Answer: Would you like to say that take pride in your culture. That is our identity. Learn yoga from classical disciplines, teach it further and bring in life style.

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Everyday baby moves

It is the backbone of our society. When the spine becomes bad then the whole body gets spoiled. Play it with your children to stay healthy. Being physically active will increase blood circulation. For this, he can practice infant motility while walking on the knees, women who have problems in knees. Do that of Pawanmuktasan.

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Let life instead of sitting in Walker Childhood

At present, the person has started consuming more than the facilities. In this episode, the infants are placed in the walker instead of giving the knees. It should not be. Do not let gadget culture dominate.

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Practice of pranayama

Take time out from a busy routine and practice pranayama daily. Take a deep breath by holding one hand and holding one hand on the stomach. This will increase oxygen and blood circulation. Also, the body will be pleased with the temptation thrice a day.

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Linearity and Knowledge enhances concentration

Due to daybreak running, one does not get concentrated. By remaining absent from the family and society, then all Yogis become. It is important to have a quiet mind even in odd situations.

13 in news after getting important government assignment and also other achievements./ https://www.amarujala.com/uttar-pradesh/saharanpur/181534791562-saharanpur-news

--- Y for bare fact of "nominated for steering committee".

Pratishtha Sharma will attend World Hindi Conference Meerut Bureau Meerut Bureau Updated Tue, 21 Aug 2018 12:29 AM     Saharanpur Acharya Pratishtha Sharma of Saharanpur got an important assignment in the 11th World Hindi Conference in Mauritius. The Government of India has nominated the prestige member to the Steering Committee of the Conference. This achievement of prestige is a wave of happiness in the dignitaries.

Acharya Prestha Sharma has performed yoga and kathak in many countries. He is the daughter of Yoga Guru Padmashri Bharat Bhushan. Prior to the World Hindi Conference, the government has become a member of the Youth Certification Committee of the DIABETES Protocol Committee of the Government of India and the Quality Council of India. Apart from these, many cultural parties have been sent abroad to represent India. Acharya Pratishtha said on the phone that the World Hindi Conference will include representatives from many countries of the world, besides the Indian team of hundreds of literary and linguists including Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj, Minister of State for Human Resource Development Satyapal Singh, Minister of State for External Affairs, General VK Singh and many more. NK Sharma, Anita Sharma, Dr. Ashok Gupta, Ram Rajeev Singhal, Hemant Arora, Rajiv Dua, Rajiv Anand, Kirti Anand etc. congratulated the Pratishtha.

14. In news from amar ujala with transaltion, good content about her work/ https://www.jagran.com/uttar-pradesh/moradabad-city-16180372.html

translation below ( google translate- can be cross check)

--- Y for bare fact "spoke at police camp".

Yoga Teacher pratishtha will teach police personnel yoga Publish Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 02:18 AM (IST)

Moradabad: Preparations for the International Jagaran mega camp are going on on 21st June at World Yoga day. Linked to yoga Moradabad: Preparations for the Danik Jagaran Mahashivir are going on on 21st June at World Yoga day. Organizations connected with yoga are practicing yoga. In various places of the metropolis yoga is being given initiation. The exercise will be for session 13, in which Yoga Acharya Pratishtha Sharma will initiate the initiation of yoga to the seekers. The Youth Camp will be held in the MIT Auditorium from 5:30 am to 7.00 in the morning. In this camp, the seekers' curiosity will also remove the yogic. The advantages and requirements of yoga will also be explained. MIT Trustee Sudhir Gupta said that it is a matter of pride that Yoga is coming to MIT for the first time. On the initiative of Senior Superintendent of Police Manoj Tiwari, Yogacharya Pratishtha will also teach Yoga to the police personnel from 8.00 am in the Sharma Police Line. Senior Superintendent of Police inspected the yoga site and instructed RI to ensure the arrangements. Jogo Bharat Yoga Seeker, the branch of Mokshayant Yoga Seeker, is also excited about the yoga lessons about the two yoga camps being held jointly. Amit Garg told that the initiative of Dainik Jagran is commendable.

Posted by: Jagran

15 Her article on renowned news channel abp news(earlier star news) with English translation/https://abpnews.abplive.in/lifestyle/yoga-poses-to-prevent-hair-loss-naturally-632742≠

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translation

New Delhi: In the summer, children often become dry, sticky and dull as if they do not have them. But you can get it in the summer through yoga, beautiful and healthy hair. Today Acharya Pratishtha Sharma is revealing the prestige, the actions of yoga that make the hair in the summer beautiful and healthy. The problem of getting rid of hair problem is better posture- Sit down on knees for rapture. Hold hands in the side. The more you can go back to the back of the breath, then you can go back. Come back, leaving the breath. yoga -0 After this, sit in the vajrasana and leave the body loose. yoga-01 Uphrasaran leads to blood flow sculp. After this, there will be a downward spiral. For this, like the little kids, kneeling on the other side, put on the ground and lift the waist straight upwards. yoga -02 In this situation, see as many feet as possible as possible. After this, sit again in Vajrasana. By doing these two actions hair will be too long. Hair loss will also stop and hair dryness, dalas will also be removed. Today's home recipe- Take one or two bars a week. Make a paste of it. Put a spoonful of honey in it. Add a little lemon. Put this paste in the entire hair. Put this paste in full hair. Put this paste in the hair for 20 minutes and then wash. yoga - Once a week, curd paste can also be applied. Add vinegar to the curd and leave it for 20 minutes. Leave it in the hair and leave it. Rusianejohn (talk) 09:34, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Well, this enormous amount of material that you are working so hard to find is yielding a few very small results. Much of the material (and all the lengthy interviews) fall foul of WP:PRIMARY (material by Sharma) and cannot be used.

That says, Sharma is probably barely notable. The great majority of the refs are unusable; a few of them establish the basic facts of her career. There is almost no review of her work by critics to establish notability. By the way, I find it strange that we are discussing this here cooperatively and at great length, and you are still posting things at AN - it would be nice if you dropped that, really, so we can continue to work on the article out harmoniously. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:44, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Summary

so thats great now we have 12 ticks,

1. for yoga guru head we have because how many gurus are invited to teach parliament of the big country like India, or the police officers, or on TV show on national TV channels. 2. we have for choreographer head, we have proof of choreography for national and international events. how many performers will be invited to lead beauty pea-gents and perform in other country reputed events and international festivals

3. for author head we have news of her launching of book at international level events, for other book at publication house websites.

4. for cultural head she is on government portal as cultural head as well is news of Mauritius.

5. for Career head you already shortlisted

6. for tv we have one link already shortlisted by you if remove dead one. and we have one from zee news with transalation, one from abp news channels showing her tv shows is a proof of her tv shows.

actually she rose to fame at so early age that many of the links of articles on her got obselete. but now after research we got these. thanks

so now what next. shall we put the shortlisted one. oh AN i replied only. nothing elseRusianejohn (talk) 13:02, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, well done. I suggest you remove all the sources from the article, replacing them with these 6 for the facts stated. That will I think leave some things uncited (to be worked on); the basic facts of her career should be ok with the primary sources we identified. On AN I suggest you note at the end that it can be closed as we're cooperating. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:08, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

nice, will proceed as suggested, will do it after some time. have to leave for now . thanks.Rusianejohn (talk) 13:17, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

mentioned as suggested at ANRusianejohn (talk) 07:32, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Reference format

I've formatted the 'new' refs using a citation template. Here is an empty one for you to use:

<ref>{{cite news |author= |title= |url= |work= <!--Name of Newspaper--> |date= |accessdate=2 April 2019 |language= |quote=}} - </ref>

Author = Name of journalist Title = Title of article URL = Web address, begins with http:// work = Name of newspaper date = Date of publication like 1 January 2017 accessdate = Date you checked the newspaper article

You can also use {{cite web | ... with similar parameters (no "Work" obviously). Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:37, 2 April 2019 (UTC) thanks, now using it, few links added. will try add more by today evening. Rusianejohn (talk) 09:35, 2 April 2019 (UTC) added few more, doing more research, coming up with new links. can we remove template now while doing it.Rusianejohn (talk) 20:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

You keep on adding ... . around citations for some reason. It is completely wrong, do look at the result with the Preview button before you save - I've undone some of these twice or three times now. Same goes for the punctuation, you need to put the punctuation BEFORE refs, not after. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:38, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

noted , will rectify. thanksRusianejohn (talk) 08:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I shall leave you to it. As far as I'm concerned, we now have the article in an acceptable state (that would probably survive AfD) for the first time. I expect any additions or changes to be to the same standard. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:29, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

sure, will work on it with more good source. travelling now. thanksRusianejohn (talk) 16:58, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

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Mr. Dheeraj contribution is Yog anthem adopted by Government of India on second Yoga day and he was awarded by Vice president of India for the same. you may reconsider the deceision.Rusianejohn (talk) 16:15, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

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Kindly hold or put the decision in review as she is the most desrving name to be here. her contribution in the field is immense and their is no comparison of her excellence in the field of Yoga and Indian classical dance. she is a decorated name in the her filed and represented India in many International forums. i have no doubt about it and you may just put her name on google. This year also on UN Internation Yoga Day she is the one who conducted the main event of Government of India at Red Fort Inaugrated by PM and any dignitiaries. regarding the update of all my contributions its my fault as after COVID i am not very much regular.Kindly reviwe and restore it so that it can be updated.Rusianejohn (talk) 16:13, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Rusianejohn,

Reconsider what? There is no malicious intention here. Please understand that I have not deleted the page. All I did was nominate it for a discussion about deletion. I nominated it because I think, her contribution is not enough to deserve an article. You can disagree with me on this opinion. An admin user deleted it. Please click and read the links in my message. And if you still have concern then you can talk to the user who deleted it. You can find his name by clicking the deleted article. Venkat TL (talk) 16:41, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

I have been blocked for making any edit without any reliable source and reason. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Chorndavid/Archive. Venkat TL & Chiswick Chap carteled to delete my work at wikipedia and it seems they have a personal issue with the object of my article Pratishtha Sharma as not just my article about this Indian Celebrity has been deleted but all her refrences & mentions at different articles and categories have also been deleted. On the top of it, page about her husband who is a President Awardee Dheeraj Saraswat has also been deleted clearly showing their personal vendetta. In 2019 too, I had put Chiswick Chap on admin's notice board for massive deletion, Now it is out of my uderstanding that how come Chiswick Chap instantly supported Venkat TL for the deletion of article as if it ws preplanned and intentional. I demand a check run on Venkat TL who recently joined wikipedia in july 2021 and also a check run on all intentional edits done by Chiswick Chap on my contributions as to me at this point it smells of an intentional carteling and sabotazing of genuine articles. Now I have been blocked so that I can not bring all this dark carteling into the light. I also hope it does not involve any monetary or financial gain as these days it has been rumored a lot that few professional agents are joining wikipedia to make paid articles and changes and since they are new comers hence to show their genuinness they make several unnecessary changes / contributions as well so that they can make paid alterations under this umbrella and earn a good amount of money through this business. Keeping this monetary and financial angle in view its important for old users & genuine contributors to raise their voice. But unfortunately an almost 9 year old contributor like me has been blocked by 3 months old user Venkat TL without any genuine reason. I just want to add that articles may come and go but genuine contributors should stay at wikipedia to save the purpose of wikipedia, i also request admin Explicit and Special:CheckUser to kindly look into the matter and search in detail.Rusianejohn (talk) 07:47, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your sincerely expressed view, but far from forming a "cartel", I have never communicated with Venkat TL in any way: indeed I know nothing about them. I actually share your views on paid editing, which I find abhorrent, just as I find all point-of-view editing disgraceful and counter to Wikipedia's purpose. I'm happy to assure you that I have never edited anything for pay and never will. You should of course not make any accusations of that kind against editors without proof, especially if you hope one day to be unblocked. You will need to adopt a far more conciliatory and co-operative attitude for that. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:46, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Chiswick Chap,In my all wiki experience and contribution i never abused any body and never tried to insult any body, my work history will show this and i never intented to blame any body but now after going through all the recent incidents i was compelled to check in all the history and saw my contribution. for eg my article the yoga gurus of indian is meaning less now. I have made that artcile with all the experience i gained during my journalism days visiting India for the first time covering international yoga week rishikesh and till now visiting India for long stays researching different schools of Yoga. I never edit anything just because i want to improve my record with numbers in the feild of wiki because i am not a professional earning money by doing it but a genuine contributor. i was blocked without doing any harm to anybody and this shows how independent wikipedia these days. i asked for review because i know i can improve the article and its my fault that iam not a regualr visitor of wiki these days due to post covid health issue and other factors. instead of looking into it, i was blocked so that i will not put light on something which somebody wants to hide. i hope this will be checked properly and truth will prevails. nothing personal against any body.Rusianejohn (talk) 09:09, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Um, I haven't asserted that you did. I'm merely replying to your text right here in this thread where you write "I also hope it does not involve any monetary or financial gain" and so on; you absolutely must avoid that kind of thing if you hope ever to edit here again. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:18, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

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