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Duck the Great Western Engine

I have removed the {{NPOV}} tag you added to the Duck the Great Western Engine article becuase you have offered no explanation. When you add a tag of this nature you must explain why you think the on the talk page of the article, so that the article can be improved. If you really do feel that the article is not neutral, then feel free to re-add the template but you must detail why you feel it is not neutral on talk:Duck the Great Western Engine, if you don't then the tag will be removed again. Thryduulf 10:44, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Faria

Please tell me how to make it NPOV. Milpitas guy 17:53, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Never mind, I already did it. SFGiants 15:39, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

SoCal WikiProject

Judging by your user name and your interests, you may be interested in the fairly new California Wikiproject. Please take a look at the project and see if there is any thing that interests you. If you have any comments or questions, please contact me. BlankVerse ∅ 10:46, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

{{CUSD stub}}

As it doesn't indicate that the article it's on is a stub, it might make more sense for other editors if it was moved to some name that doesn't include "stub". Perhaps something like {{CUSD-school}}? --Mairi 05:22, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

{{CUSD school}}

Why can't templates be inside templates?

They cause extra load on Wikipedia's servers, which are already often in danger of overload due to the size of the site. See Wikipedia:Avoid using meta-templates for more info. Grutness...wha? 04:47, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

That's what happens when you try to run a website on a TRS-80. Wahkeenah 15:23, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Giants

What comment??? Wahkeenah 15:01, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

OK, you're talking about the LaTroy Hawkins comment. You must never have seen him pitch. We suffered through several years of this guy's "relief" pitching in Minnesota and Chicago, where he was reviled by fans in both cities for his inability to hold a lead. I haven't followed the trade wires lately. Is he still with the Giants? If so, he's still your problem. Meanwhile, you also failed to read my response, which is that calling an editorial comment on the talk page "vandalism" is inflammatory and you'll get the flames right back. If you had said "outside the scope of the discussion", that might be debatable, but it's not inflammatory. Wahkeenah 15:23, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I get it. I also have seen LaTroy Hawkins pitch.

Emergency department

I wonder if you could consider supporting this article at Wikipedia:Article Improvement Drive. Its an important place, where we all go by ambulance if we are very ill, and, I think, worthy of a comprehensive article.--File Éireann 21:22, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Salam

And wellcome to muslim guild . So how do you pronounce all those Cyrillic characters . Also a brief intro of you & your interests on WP will be very helpful . F.a.y.^{تبادله خيال /c} 19:32, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Salam (can't fix the font below)

ROFLMAO reading your page :) I just found you at the Muslim Guild... I believe you're an expert on everything you haven't mentioned on your page...? :P Waqas.usman 01:34, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Not really. I just have a wide range of interests. :^) ςפקιДИτς [[User_talk:SFGiants|<sup><span style="color:green">СФ</span><sup>]][[Special:Contributions/SFGiants|<sup><span style="color:lightblue">Гиганты</span><sup>]] 01:53, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Misjudged

...is clearly a copyright violation, and one of the most blatant I've seen, so it should have been listed at WP:CP instead of WP:AFD. I've gone ahead and done so for this article. —Cryptic (talk) 16:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Cupertino Middle School

Using XD allows anyone to fix an article and then remove the tag. An article that only has a template is not an article. If this was left, it would have been on AfD and probably would be deleted. By moving it off to the side, it can be made a good article and then restored. XD does not loose any of what was available. Forcing a school to AfD, which the article as created would have done, would not help the effort to reduce contention over keeping schools. Vegaswikian 06:18, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

• Actually that template provides enough context for an stub article but it makes it more difficult to improve, because the intro text can't be edited. Kappa 06:24, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Your signature

For help fixing it, see WP:SIGHELP. Blackcap (talk) 02:24, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Emergency department

Many thanks for your support!--File Éireann 23:42, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

What's a holding category? --Liface 00:15, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Murdock-Portal

Please see my reply. •DanMS 03:53, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

New user box

Hello SFGiants, Im SWD316. Im giving you the user box for your user page called Template:User Member. It's a user box that says your a member of the AWWDMBJ.... Hope you like it! — Moe ε 03:39, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia story help

Hello, I am a Contra Costa Times reporter writing about Wikipedia and Jimmy Wales' announcement today. I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on the John Seigenthaler debate; could you please contact me at elee@cctimes.com? Thank you.

'No Ads' - you're joking, right mr 'sfgiants'?

If not, where do you draw the line? Is a site discussing a company like Intel or IBM an ad? A site about the SF Giants? Oh gosh - no, that's already being promoted, in your ID. (Oh no, that's sports, no promotion there) :) - Sorry, but the No Ad rant always seemed a little duplicitous to me. Me, an A's/Raiders man from Oak-town. --Barrettmagic 01:51, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

You know, SFGiants, you have two userboxes aying you're against ads. ЄИЄЯפЇЄ 04:29, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

SFG 40-man roster

Hello SFG. Please take a look of the Red Sox, Pirates, Marlins or Mets rosters. There's a count for each position and the roster is rearranged to show the entire 40-man, not just 25. There is no disabled list and extended roster in offseason. The 40-man roster is comprised of all of the players on the 25-man roster, anyone who is on the 15-day disabled list, and minor leaguers who usually have played three or more professional seasons. Players who are on the 60-day disabled list are not on the 40-man roster. A team may recall players that are on the 40-man roster that are not on the 25-man roster during the regular season. The 25-man roster is the roster that the major league team is comprised of. Players on the 25-man roster are eligible to play in a major league game. A team's roster may consist of 40 players until Opening Day, when the number must be reduced to 25 until September 1st, when it again becomes 40. For more info about SFG 40-man roster you can check at [1]. Feel free to work as you wish. Good luck! – MusiCitizen 00:23, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Good work! Last transactions, uniform number changes and some edit were added. If you get some time, could you collaborate with other roster pages? Your contributions to baseball pages are very welcome. Cheers – MusiCitizen 14:23, 19 December 2005 (UTC) [ talk ]

Heroes' special abilities

Someone removed the table for the heroes' special ability in Age of Mythology. The special abilities are still there, but they are no longer in a a table. Could you help me there?ЄИЄЯפЇЄ 23:08, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Looks great. Smaller than the previous table, but it still looks fine.ЄИЄЯפЇЄ 23:08, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

I know you like to put extra drama into stuff. And are you really as stressed as that chart shows?ЄИЄЯפЇЄ 23:20, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Why wouldn't I be?ЄИЄЯפЇЄ 23:26, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Roster categories

Hi. I see you added categories to all of the various MLB rosters. The problem is now every page that includes those pages also go into the categories so New York Mets was in Category:MLB team rosters which isn't right. I did a test and it looks like you can simply wrap the category in a <noinclude> and only the roster article itself will go into the category. (I tried it with New York Mets roster). What do you think? wknight94 02:48, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh, thanks. I had a lot of things to do, and overlooked that. ςפקιДИτς ☺ ☻ 02:50, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Baseball on Wikicities

Hi SFGiants, Googie Man here and I wanted to ask you something as a fellow baseball fan on Wikipedia. Jimbo and Angela have made a new webstie called Wikicities. This link in particular will take you to the baseball Wikicity. As you'll see it's similar to Wikipedia, but my hope is this will allow baseball fans to do more and different things, like reporting on games, in depth statistics, create mulitple pages for pictures, and whatever else baseball fans care to create. You've done a lot of great work on Wikipedia, and I was hoping you could help get this baseball Wikicity off the ground. Please let me know what you think either at my talk page, or you can email me at terry@wikia.com. Thanks! Googie Man^(Talk), 20:35, 4 January 2006.

Top 15 of 500 MLB Players

SFGiants, no need to apologize for being critical, because debate is exactly what will be fun for visitors about this top 500 list. My hope is that all users will end up putting their two cents worth on the discussion page of this list. I'll keep your criticims in mind, and by all means, make changes as you see fit. All the best, Googie man 23:58, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Good suggestion - I'll make you an admin. Aranda56, Jimbo Wales and I are the admins. so far. Googie man 00:19, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

An Esperanzial note

As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.

In other news, Karmafist has set up a discussion about a new personal attack policy, which it can be found here. Other new pages include an introductory page on what to do when you sign up, So you've joined Esperanza... and a welcome template: {{EA-welcome}} (courtesy of Bratsche). Some of our old hands may like to make sure they do everything on the list as well ;) Additionally, the userpage award program proposal has become official is operational: see Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award to nominate a userpage or volunteer as a judge. Also see the proposed programs page for many new proposals and old ones that need more discussion ;)

Other than that, I hope you all had a lovely Christmas and wish you an Esperanzially good new WikiYear :D Thank you! --Celestianpower ^háblame 16:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
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Generation Z article is up for deletion

Since you have classified yourself as a Generation Z Wikipedian, you might be interested to take a look to the discussion to delete the Generation Z article. --Army1987 13:56, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Participant alert regarding Wikiproject on Advertising

The Wikiproject No Ads, created as a backlash against the Answers.com deal, has served an important function in providing a space for users to express their disagreement with the Foundation proposal. While the current controversies about userboxes raise questions about political and social advocacy on Wikipedia, there should be greater flexibility regarding advocacy about Wikipedia in the Wikipedia namespace. Reported and linked by Slashdot and other press sources as a unique and spontaneous occurence in Wikipedia history, it has apparently had some impact as, despite being scheduled to begin in January, not a peep has been heard about the trial and proposed sponsored link since the deal's controversial announcement months ago. Currently, however, there is an attempt to delete the project or move it off Wikipedia altogether. Since the Foundation has provided no additional information and has not attempted to answer the specific questions that participants in the project raised, it is unclear if the Answers.com deal has been abandoned or simply delayed. Until the situation becomes more clear, I believe the group should still have a place in the Wikipedia namespace. Sincerely, Tfine80 00:12, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

User box

Hi. Template:User wishful has been nominated for speedy deletion under the new criterion. I've removed the speedy deletion tag in an attempt to slow the pace of things, but if you could remove it from your user page as a show of good faith that would be great. Thanks,
brenneman^{T}{L} 03:04, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Another Esperanzial note...

Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".

The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcoming Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from 12:00 UTC on February 20th to 11:59 UTC on February 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they are already listed on the members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time, if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.

Yours, as ever, Esperanzially,
--Celestianpower ^háblame 09:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
(message delivered by FireFox using AWB on Celestianpower's behalf)

Destroyer (Age of Mythology: The Titans)

Someone changed the above article, when I had a nice amount of info on it, to a redirect. Should I change it back, or are they justified in doing this? ЄИЄЯפЇЄ 03:46, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Democratic response to 2006 State of the Union address

Thanks for the point you made on Talk:Democratic response to 2006 State of the Union address. I've been making this arguement for a while, but several users continue to insist that the content is "unreferenced" and is "original research." KI 01:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you! Hi SFGiants/Archive 1, thank you for your support in my Rfa! It passed with a final tally of 86/0/0. If you need help or just want to talk let me know! Again, thank you! – Dakota ~ ° 23:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Cool Cat

Thanks. BTW that was the only place hard to edit ^_^ Feel free to fix more. :P --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 21:01, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza

Thanks a lot! What can I do to help the project? Regards. Afonso Silva 16:29, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Signature

Just a note, but your signature doesn't say "SFGiants" in cyrillic (alphabet). The "A" is actually a "D," the "N" an "I", among other things.

Yom 01:23, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

Reach out Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience: "No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Note from the editor Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!

The last AC meeting (full log) Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Hi! Thanks for signing up for Esperanza admin coaching, and thank you even more for your patience. I have assigned Banes and Kirill Lokshin as your coaches. Please contact them so that you can set up a program for your coaching. Thanks again, and let me know if you have any questions. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 05:37, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

Barnstar Brigade The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date: "Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated." Stress Alerts The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them. Information Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!

The last AC meeting (full log) The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly. A plea from the editor... The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Admin Coach

Hi there. I'll have to confer with Sango123and get back to you on that. :) Do you use IRC? Because that is a good place to conduct admin coaching sessions. Banez 08:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Admin Coaching

Well, that's really up to you ;-) Is there anything in particular you'd like coaching on (or just plain help with)? Kirill Lokshin 13:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower ^háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

If you have any interest in Template:MLB

please join the current discussion at Template talk:MLB. As a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball your opinion is particularly valued. Thanks. 66.167.139.143 08:39, 4 May 2006 (UTC).

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

Administrator Coaching The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service. This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins. Stressbusters The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome! Note from the editor As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!

The last AC meeting (full log) Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture 20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

???

What on earth did you do to your user page? What is this, some kind of joke? Astuto 04:50, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower ^háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Final state highway naming conventions debate

SFGiants, your participation is welcome in the Wikipedia:State route naming conventions poll. Please give your input as to the process by 23:59 UTC on August 8.

Regards, Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:20, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

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