User talk:Sesel/Fourth Archive
QUESTION TO SESEL
[edit]HI I WAS WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ARTICLE THAT YOU SAID YOU ARE GOING TO POST:
"Freedom of speech in Africa I will post a section on freedom of speech in Africa tonight. --Sesel 21:27, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)"
I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO READ IT,
THANKS,
SINEM GUNGOR ([email protected])
- I did write an Africa section at Freedom of speech (international), as I said. I didn't write a full article on the topic because the situation varies widely in different countries; instead, I'm slowly working on articles pertaining to each country. You may be interested to read Censorship in Tunisia, written December 16-17, 2005. —Sesel 23:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Joseph Diescho
[edit]Good morning. I hope you don't mind me contacting you. I have started a short article on Joseph Diescho, the novelist, having read his book Born of the Sun. The article has been questioned for notability.
You will probably have a better idea of the importance of Mr Diescho in a Namibian and African context. If you could comment on the notability of Mr Diescho (whether favourably or unfavourably) that would be helpful.
Thank you for reading this comment.
Nigel45 10:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your help on JD, the article looks much better now. Nigel45 12:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi
[edit]Since I haven't run into you in what seems like forever, I thought I'd drop by the see how things were going. I hope everything is going well with you. All the best. Guettarda 18:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for checking in. Time goes by quickly! My biggest problem right now is a head cold, but it'll pass.
- BTW, I came up with a Trinidad-related question a few days ago reading the article about Eric Williams. I know he had to wear a hearing aid, but did he ever appear without those glasses? Was he blind, otherwise vision-impaired, or were they just his trademark? —Sesel 00:13, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- He was partially deaf, but as far as I can recall his vision was ok. Guettarda 01:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
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I think having the extra categories is fine. The grouping can be used for all articles directly related to Angola. The category should be used for all article directly related to Angolan people, obviously. And since there is a serious dearth of articles on Angola beyond mini-stubs, I think it is important to have someone interested in Angola be able to find all the Angolan articles, should he/she choose. So please stop reverting my edits. If you want to help with Angola, why not add on to the tiny Angolan geography stubs?--Thomas.macmillan 14:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- OK. I apologize for not seeking a further explanation before I reverted. —Sesel 18:03, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
René
[edit]I posted my objections almost a year ago on the discussion page. You say "...some theorize that South Africa was just a client state for American interests in the region," without giving a source. Who theorizes this? Every thing I've read points the finger squarely at Mancham and the South Africans with the tacit support of the Kenyans (René was cozy with their rivals, the Tanzanians). To my knowledge, no evidence of U.S. involvement was ever found, and it's not even clear that the Americans or even the British knew about the coup beforehand. The main "American interests in the region" at this time would likely have been the Soviet listening post that was set up on the Seychelles to spy on American radio traffic, but the Soviets had plenty of these in more strategic locales and the Americans didn't invade them or depose the governments - they just set up their own listening posts. If you have evidence from published sources, present it and cite it. If you have published sources who hold the opinion that the Americans were involved, you should report it, with appropriate citation - even if they have no supporting evidence. Just don't say "some" and leave it at that - that's weaseling.
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Eduardo Galeano
[edit]Hi there! There's copyright problem with article Eduardo Galeano. Could you take a look at en:Talk:Eduardo Galeano? You might whant ot collaborate. Thanks alot, Mariano(t/c) 08:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Have a good break
[edit]Hope you have a good break, whatever the cause. I hope things are well with you. Guettarda 04:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey
[edit]Nice to meet you. I'm guyanese and filipino. I see you love traveling.
Portal:Communism
[edit]Hi there! Take a look at the newly-created Portal:Communism and make the contributions and suggestions you want. Thanks! Afonso Silva 20:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your edits to the related topics box. I confess that I didn't knew some of the names you included but obviously, I forgot Tito, Carrillo, Nagy and Farabundo Martí, thanks for adding them. It is really strange when you find several names that had a strong national and regional influence and you don't know them, once more, I realized that the later influences of Western European communism are very different from the East Asian and American ones. And inside the Western European, Portuguese communists, like me, follow different paths and influences when compared to the Spanish or the French, for example. I'll read about the names you included, thanks! And edit the rest of the Portal mercilessly. Cheers! Afonso Silva 22:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- No problem. You've done an excellent job on the portal. —Sesel 22:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Question about templates you're making
[edit]I see you've recently made a good number of templates which don't seem to consist of anything but the name of a country, and don't seem to be used anywhere. I can't figure out what exactly they are for, as it looks like they'd just write the name in them, which certainly would be easier to type out than use a template. If this is some standard thing done for use with country names, sorry, I just don't know about it, but it's confusing me. -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 04:28, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- See WikiProject Flag Template. —Sesel 04:32, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, ok, long as you know what you're doing :). Thanks for the reply. -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 04:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- No problem. —Sesel 04:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, ok, long as you know what you're doing :). Thanks for the reply. -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 04:46, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I changed my username
[edit]Hello! I'm Afonso Silva, I changed my username to Mário. Cheers! Mário 09:15, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
Communist Party of Mauretania
[edit]This party sent a greeting to the 1977(?) congress of VPK. I'll try to dig up a reference, its availible in the document published from the congress. Otherwise, I know nothing about this party. --Soman 06:48, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- If it existed not just on paper, the PCM was probably a faction or tendency in another organization and not stand-alone. There were some Marxists in Mauritania in the '70s, but they worked within other opposition groups because of the one-party state. —Sesel 13:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
could you try to undelete this page? I don't know were to address the issue. --Soman 15:51, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Happy Birthday!
[edit]Enjoy. Mr. Turcottetalk 18:30, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Centerpartiet (Centre-party) in Sweden
[edit]Just wanted to notice you that the you have listed the Centre party in Sweden as a left-wing party. This seems quite odd. At the moment the party is very much to the right on the political scale and have never been very leftish dispite a few years during the 70thies. Otherwise it's a great list and I've been using for one of my projects, so thanks for the help ;) --Jonte-- 11:34, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
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Afghanistan
[edit]According to several official sources, the official name is the Islamic State of Afghanistan. So I was slightly incorrect, as is the "Republic" title name. I will correct the name as such. Rarelibra 21:15, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Use this as a reference: http://unstats.un.org/unsd/geoinfo/N0241147.pdf Rarelibra 21:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- The "Islamic State of Afghanistan" was the entity that held power following the end of the Communist regime in 1992. The title was used until the Taliban took power. The name "Islamic Republic of Afghanistan" is used in the currently binding Constitution of 2004 [1]. It is also referred to as such in the CIA World Factbook [2]. Also, "Islamic Republic of Afghanistan" is the correct translation of the Dari and Pashtu versions of the name. "Jumhuriya" is "republic" in Arabic and related languages. "Dawlat" or "Daulat" means "state". —Sesel 22:18, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter what the US uses. The UN uses "Islamic State". The CIA World Factbook does, at times, contradict what the UN uses. To avoid being biased in Wiki (as this IS a world-accessed place), one should avoid the CIA as a reference and, instead, use the UN. Rarelibra 22:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- The Constitution of Afghanistan takes precedence over all other sources, as far as I'm concerned. The "Islamic State of Afghanistan" was a previous regime. —Sesel 22:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter what the US uses. The UN uses "Islamic State". The CIA World Factbook does, at times, contradict what the UN uses. To avoid being biased in Wiki (as this IS a world-accessed place), one should avoid the CIA as a reference and, instead, use the UN. Rarelibra 22:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- The "Islamic State of Afghanistan" was the entity that held power following the end of the Communist regime in 1992. The title was used until the Taliban took power. The name "Islamic Republic of Afghanistan" is used in the currently binding Constitution of 2004 [1]. It is also referred to as such in the CIA World Factbook [2]. Also, "Islamic Republic of Afghanistan" is the correct translation of the Dari and Pashtu versions of the name. "Jumhuriya" is "republic" in Arabic and related languages. "Dawlat" or "Daulat" means "state". —Sesel 22:18, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Quit screwing up indexing of categories
[edit]Hi, Sesel. Will you please quit misindexing pages when you move them. It is bad enough when you fail to correct the indexing, but when you go out of your way to mess it up (as here), that is really going over the line. See Wikipedia:Categorization.
After I read that, I'd appreciate it if you'd go back and fix places where you have added improper sort keys. Gene Nygaard 13:40, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Mexico
[edit]Hi,
Please have a look at edit conflicts between me and User:Rune.welsh. [3], [4], regarding blanketting of NAIS and CS articles (which were done without proper AfD) or regarding the usage of definitions of political parties. --Soman 13:57, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Nice work improving the above titled article. I have no qualms about its notability at this juncture. Erechtheus 23:55, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Convergence
[edit]Hi there. I hope you are keeping well. Someone wants to turn Socialist Convergence (Mexico) into a redirect page unless we can make it less stubby. can you help? I saw you've contributed there before...! --Duncan 17:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
Minnesota meetup
[edit]A meetup of Wikipedians in Minnesota is proposed: please stop by the discussion page if interested. Jonathunder 23:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- Reminder: Meetup October 29, one o'clock, Mall of America. Jonathunder 13:17, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
California Senate Election
[edit]I invite you to review the entry I have created on Michael Metti, Libertarian candidate challenging Dianne Feinstein as Senator from California. I think you would be well suited to edit the page for neutrality and the like, given your usual interest/ preference for left-wing politics.Terjen 17:55, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- I don't see any problem with the article's neutrality. It reads slightly like a résumé, but this isn't a major problem. I voted to keep the article on Todd Chretien, so I'll vote to keep this one too. —Sesel 23:32, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
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Your user page
[edit]You could maybe change it,it would sound better to just say that you was elected,without mentioning that anyone was against it.Its just a frendly sugestion. YXYX 02:54, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Coup d'état map
[edit]I have replied to your comments on Talk:Coup d'état#Worldwide coups map. Thanks! - SpLoT / (talk) 12:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
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I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Myanmar Wide Web, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Okkar 16:42, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Socialist International map
[edit]Hello Sesel. I noticed the map on the Socialist International page might need to be updated. I think Mexico is now ran by a party that is a member of the Socialist International —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.149.179.222 (talk) 23:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC).
- No. López Obrador, candidate of the PRD, lost to Felipe Calderón according to official results. —Sesel 02:05, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Don't look like a vandal. Please provide an edit summary when you edit.
[edit]I have noticed you commonly don't enter an edit summary. This causes me problems. When I patrol for vandalism, I use the summary to make a preliminary decision on whether or not the post is a vandal edit or not. If the summary is present (or at least a section header, the part inside the /* */), I commonly decide the edit is legit and move on.
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AfD Islamic socialism
[edit]You have edited the article Islamic socialism. This article is currently being considered for deletion under the wp:afd process. You may contribute to this discussion by commenting here. Thank you. Edivorce 01:35, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Reverting rFc on Congressman Ellison
[edit]Hi Sesel. Why are you removing the rFc? We need other editors to chime in on the issues.Knowsetfree 05:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- It belongs on the talk page, not in the article text. —Sesel 06:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Please come to this article and its talk page as I would like to seek comments before adding info as "!! Born !! Took office !! Position !! Left office !! Imprisoned !! Died !! Notes". Adding this into a new sortable table should be very useful, but it will require extensive work. Thank you for your recent indexing as I did not know that a few names would have surnames first.--Jusjih 09:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Re: Keith Ellison (politician)
[edit]I see that currently the Keith Ellison (politician) is on full lock down from all editing. This appears to have been due to Anonymous IP's continually trying to assert that he's not the first Muslim. The claims that he is the second Muslim have been disproven on the articles talk-page. I think that allowing only signed in editors to work on the article would be preferable than full lock down. Currently there does not seem to be any editor with a user name asserting the same claims as the IP is. Ellison's page gets a lot of anti-Muslim vandalism or people citing blogs to claim that his use of Jefferson's Quran was ironic asserting that he bought the book decades after reliable historians and their books say that he did.
- In light of the above I think semi-protection should be enough to resolve the issues and either prevent their reoccurance or drastically reduce them.
- Thanks for your consideration
- It was already semi-protected, but I used the wrong template. Sorry for the confusion. —Sesel 06:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi
[edit]I haven't interacted with you in forever, so I thought I'd drop by and see how you were doing. I hope all is well. Guettarda 02:04, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm OK, just got back from a weekend trip to Wisconsin. I'm getting tired of spending time reverting vandalism on Wikipedia, but I've decided I won't quit editing because of it. Thanks for checking in. —Sesel 17:39, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- I know what you mean - I really hope the get to stable versions soon. Of course it will create a whole different set of problems, but I'd be interested in trying something new. Guettarda 18:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi Sesel,
We haven't contacted before, but I saw your edits on United States presidential election, 2008 and wondered if I could ask some advice?
It appears that an user by the name of Mike Smith filed for FEC papers in the state of Oregon. He has created a page about himself and listed himself on United States presidential election, 2008 and Official and potential 2008 United States presidential election Republican candidates.
I am a bit confused on how WP:BIO and WP:NOT would apply in this instance. On the one hand, he does not fit WP:BIO criteria by far and seemingly violates WP:SOAP for self-promotion. On the other hand, he technically IS a candidate as he has filed for FEC papers.
How should I proceed in a case such as this?
Best regards,
Djma12 (talk) 01:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- I think it's pure self-promotion. Just filing with the FEC for political office (even the presidency) does not make someone inherently notable. —Sesel 01:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- That's what I thought... I've applied for Afd for the page. Cheers, Djma12 (talk) 01:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Montenegro
[edit]Montenegro had with very few exceptions a de facto one-party system ever since 1990. --PaxEquilibrium 21:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- Other parties independent of government control are permitted. Whether they are strong enough to challenge the government is another matter. There are many other states that could be described as de facto one-party, but they are not legally entrenched. —Sesel 21:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Kyrgyzstan PM
[edit]Are you absolutely sure about this interim replacement Almazbek Atambayev? Apart from the fact that he has no article on Wikipedia, nothing as yet documents a change in leadership regarding Isabekov; and I can't find any news items which support this event. Atambayev is certainly known in Kyrgyz politics but there are no breaking news reports as yet. Evlekis 12:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
- Here's one source: [5] and another. —Sesel 12:24, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Jacques Chirac
[edit]Hi, can you explain why you think Jacques Chirac should be in Category:Reigning monarchs. He is not royalty. Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 18:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- As President of the French Republic, he is, with the Bishop of Urgel, one of the Co-Princes of Andorra. —Sesel 19:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm. Okay, thank you. --KFP (talk | contribs) 01:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
The Issue
[edit]In 1945 the Communist Party of Montenegro as a branch of the Communist Party of Yugoslavia was formed, and it ruled the People's Republic of Montenegro. After the Party was loosened into a political Alliance in 1952, it was renamed to League of Communists of Montenegro. In 1974 the republic was renamed to Socialist Republic of Montenegro and the Communist Montenegrin League drafted its Constitution. It controlled the little member-state of Communist Yugoslavia through the People's Assembly (of People's, later Socialist, Republic of Montenegro) in which it had majority always and the Presidency, which was Presided by it.
In the late 1980s there were party purges and Slobodan Milošević's men took over. In 1991 after the Communist Montenegrin League won almost all votes at the first free (yet still undemocratic) 1990 Parliamentary election, it renamed itself to Democratic Party of Socialists of Montenegro, took out the "Socialist" in the republic's name Republic of Montenegro, removed competitors as it replaced the Presidency with a single centralized President (firing all other members of the Presidency), replaced the Executive Council with a Government with absolute and very high authorities and renamed the parliament to just "Assembly of the Republic of Montenegro".
All the way up to this day a dictator, Milo Đukanović, the party's president controls all social and political life in Montenegro continually (no political decision could've ever been made since 1991 without the DPS, and all political decisions are brought by the DPS). The party centralistly, and just to easily say, decides who lives and who dies. It assassinated the leader of the opposition papers, it's accused for cigarettes and weapons smuggling, sex-slave trafficking, and through state-controlled propaganda (maybe they've loosened up today) affects the outcome (aside from many other things, like rigging), making not a single election ever since 1991 to the present democratic.
Numerous marches of the democratic opposition were attempted throughout the 1990s, and the largest ever was when in 2001 10,000 people marched in protest of DPS (that is a self-styled neo-Communist Party) which single-handedly controls Montenegro for 72 years.
While Slobodan Milosevic's SPS is now a minor party in Serbia, DPS continually rules single-handedly up to this very day.
Quote from the article: "Sometimes de facto single-party state is used about a dominant-party system where unfair laws or practices prevent the opposition from legally getting power. Some single party states only outlaw opposition parties, subordinate allied parties can exist as part of a popular front. Such dominant parties are usually referred to in their specific contexts as the Party." --PaxEquilibrium 00:09, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't feel like arguing this point any further. It is clear you are trying to push your POV on Montenegrin politics. There are lots of dominant-party systems, but Montenegro is NOT legally constituted as a single-party state, is NOT a de facto one-party state due to the presence of other parties in elections and in parliament, and does NOT have the sort of pervasive control on opposition that characterize the Communist states, Syria, Turkmenistan, and Eritrea. Whether Đukanović was a dictator is a different issue entirely. —Sesel 01:18, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- Why do you consider it POV? I might have worst opinions on criminals like Slobodan Milošević, Radovan Karadžić, Milo Đukanović and the rest of the lot; but so does the rest of the world (among them the UN and to an extent the ICTY). See the European Forum for example. What POV did you see (aside from me quite personally hating people who are involved in the Yugoslav wars, Bosnian Genocide, etc.)?
- Of course Montenegro is not legally a one-party system, but is a de facto one.
- Quote from the article:Sometimes de facto single-party state is used about a dominant-party system where unfair laws or practices prevent the opposition from legally getting power. Some single party states only outlaw opposition parties, subordinate allied parties can exist as part of a popular front. Such dominant parties are usually referred to in their specific contexts as the Party.
- Sure, not that much - but all political and social life were and are controlled by party for the past 72 years, and the opposition was/is completely, totally and utterly irrelevant in the past 17 years of multi-partial elections.
- Is there a single decision in the 17 (or 72) years that was brought by the non-DPS opposition? --PaxEquilibrium 11:28, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
I admit that I probably have an inherent POV about SerboMontenegrin politics, because I was in UN sponsored pacifist group that has been working for 10 years to bring down the authoritarian rules of Milosevic's Socialist Party in Serbia and Djukanovic's Democratic Party of Socialists in Montenegro, and have been in quite a lot of peace protests (1999 in Serbia, 2001 in Montenegro) to bring down the undemocratic regimes, but I sincerely cannot believe a political party that contains 200 people just because they're of Islamic confession and then hand them over to the Bosnian Serb Army to be transferred to a *camp*; nor a party that executes 350 Croatian POWs just because they fought on the rebelling side. Sincerely, --PaxEquilibrium 13:42, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- One of the several movements you could've associated me with is Resistance!. ;) --PaxEquilibrium 18:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Co-prince of Andorra
[edit]Hi, I've added the category "Princes of Andorra" to the "Presidents of France" cat. Hope this solves the Chirac-"reigning monarch" issue. Regards, Mentatus 19:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, that information is very obscure, but interesting nonetheless. I see you updated List of elected or appointed female heads of state as well, you may want to also check List of the first female holders of political offices. I'm going to add the removed paragraph again, now mentioning the correct succession. Being second seems still remarkable in this context. --Latebird 07:22, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Jacques Chirac - Category:Reigning monarchs
[edit]I'm astonished an administrator did this[6]? Do you have a reason for adding that or was it just vandalism?--Dr who1975 19:19, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- It seems like I've answered this question 20 times. As President of the French Republic, Jacques Chirac is one of the Co-Princes of Andorra. —Sesel 19:21, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- Why is he called a prince and not a king? It seems to me, and I'm just shooting from the hip here, that if the constitution is the supreme authority than the co princes cannot be classified as Monarchs.--Dr who1975 19:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- Liechtenstein and Monaco have sovereign princes. Luxembourg has a sovereign grand duke. It doesn't matter what the title is; they are all monarchic heads of state. Most monarchies today have constitutions; this doesn't change the fact that they are monarchies. —Sesel 19:34, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks for the education. Sorry about coming on so strong.--Dr who1975 19:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- I also apologize for seeming agitated and frustrated. —Sesel 19:58, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- Liechtenstein and Monaco have sovereign princes. Luxembourg has a sovereign grand duke. It doesn't matter what the title is; they are all monarchic heads of state. Most monarchies today have constitutions; this doesn't change the fact that they are monarchies. —Sesel 19:34, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- Why is he called a prince and not a king? It seems to me, and I'm just shooting from the hip here, that if the constitution is the supreme authority than the co princes cannot be classified as Monarchs.--Dr who1975 19:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
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Israel (moved from top)
[edit]Israel is a quasi theocracy. The "Law of Return" read the page edit for theocracy. While they do not have divine guidance for their leader, that law and others regarding citizenship rights makes it a de jure theocracy.
Theocracy is defined on a premise that religion has a place in state functions.