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May 2020

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Proposed deletion of Dominique Fontenette

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Proposed deletion of Anna Thompson (ultimate)

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Proposed deletion of I need feminism because

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Speedy deletion nomination of Without Limits Ultimate

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Suggestion

Hi there — I've recently come across several articles which you've created on 'ultimate' players, and thought I'd come and offer my (unsolicited) tuppence worth. As you can see on this page, these articles have been nominated for deletion, on the same grounds ie. no content or context, no references, no links, etc. If, as you say on a couple of the article talk pages, your intention is to continue working on the articles, then my suggestion would be to keep them in your draftspace until they are more developed and not to publish them too soon, as otherwise you just risk them being deleted, which is causing extra work for other editors and may eventually get you sanctioned. Cheers, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:03, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the thought. The problem is that the original plan was to create these place holders before our wikithon starts today so newer users could edit and expand on them. But if I move them to my drafts then they can't edit only I can. We just didn't realize they'd be marked for deletion so quickly so have had to reassess our approach to creating the new articles. Steve42382 (talk) 12:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, fair enough. FWIW, the way I came across these articles is, I patrol the 'dead end' category, ie. articles that have no internal wikilinks. Other editors routinely patrol other categories, like unreferenced etc. articles. One way to reduce the likelihood of your article drafts/stubs being tagged for deletion would be to comply from the outset with as many guidelines as possible, ie. always ensure that you have at least one external reference, at least one internal link, and so on. That won't completely get around this problem for you, but may at least lessen it. Mind you, even then, if the article subject is inherently non-notable or otherwise falls foul of the 'rules', you will be fighting an uphill struggle. HTH -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:19, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all your help. I appreciate it! Steve42382 (talk) 13:38, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of I need feminism because for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article I need feminism because is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I need feminism because until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 21:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of List of Ultimate Organizations

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May 2020

Hello, I'm Willsome429. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, I need feminism because, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 23:58, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Washington DC Shadow

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Washington DC Scandal moved to draftspace

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Proposed deletion of Milwaukee Monarchs

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A suggestion

Hey Steve, I've been reading around lately and have notice that you are part of the new Sports Wiki Visibility Project. I've also seen that there's been some contention over the quality of the project's output and a misunderstanding that ended up at the admin noticeboard. I recommend you and your fellow editors at this initiative seek the guidance of the members of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red. There are users there who are very knowledgeable about Wikipedia policies and standards, and are also very experienced in creating content along the lines of countering systemic bias. The project also does outreach, so I'm sure you'd be able to find some people there who would be happy to assist your initiative. -Indy beetle (talk) 04:20, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Echoing Indy beetle's call. While you don't need anyone's permission to edit, if you're running an editathon it generally helps a great deal if you have the guidance of someone with sufficient editing experience here and it sounds like you don't really have that at the moment. So finding someone with that experience, probably through Women in Red, but any other means that work for you should help things go better. Nil Einne (talk) 11:43, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help both of you! I really appreciate it. We have someone on our leadership group who has experience with wikipedia editing and has been guiding us through all of this as well but naturally she can't be hands on with every one of us and is mostly focused on explaining what we're doing wrong after we've done it. As for the Women in Red, I have no idea how experienced she is compared to the people with Women in Red but either way finding other like minded individuals to provide additional support and education could never hurt. I've learned a ton about what works and what doesn't already and I'm really enjoying this but I'm frustrated that even if this particular user has grounds for what he's flagging, if you look at his recent history he is intentionally focused on what we're doing after basically trolling our social media campaign for it as well. While I and everyone else in this campaign have been told through our training on how to use wikipedia that suggestions, edits, etc. are not personal this particular user is approaching it from a personal lens and it's just disheartening. We unfortunately happened to find a guy who has extensive wikipedia experience and knowledge, while also being a member of the ultimate community, and feels threatened that his heroes in the white male dominated semi-pro scene are not getting the same attention that we're choosing to put on the marginalized populations of players. This very unlikely combination has found us in the situation that we're in. The harassment we're facing from him is not based on the content of his edits but rather on his determination to solely focus on our campaign based on a personal grudge he has with us. We are trying to work with others in his community to help educate him on the harm he is causing and to help use his privilege for good instead of bringing others down. steve42382 (talk) 12:54, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'd appreciate it if you engaged in conversation with me personally about my actions instead of beating around the bush and calling it "harassment". And I would implore you to not bring up off-wiki matters yet again, especially with the framing wording you're using. My contributions are not through a "personal lens", it's through an encyclopedic lens. The Women in Red are a very well-respected group on the encyclopedia and they seem to fit with a lot of what your project is trying to accomplish - maybe project leadership should look at reaching out to them. Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 13:39, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You have shown through multiple off-wikipedia matters that you are uninterested in learning how your personal bias is affecting your approach. Your entire recent edit history is 100% only things that have come up through our campaign. I'd love to legitimately discuss the issues of bias, privilege, and white male supremacy with you but as friends have tried to do you continue to focus on the content of your edits instead of the negative energy behind them. If you'd like to have a discussion for real and be open to hearing how your actions affect others I'm all for it but I'm not going to get into it anymore with you directly unless it's a real conversation as I wasn't happy with the way it went down the first time on instagram both with how I responded and with how you reacted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steve42382 (talk • contribs)

I have moved relevant discussion to WP:ANI. Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 13:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Steve, please be patient with things. And may I also suggest that your read Wikipedia:Advocacy. Seeking to "discuss the issues of bias, privilege, and white male supremacy" with someone in the manner which you imply is going to come across as incredibly patronizing (and if you imply that someone is personally exhibiting issues of "white male supremacy" without providing solid evidence, that's going to be interpreted as a WP:PersonalAttack and you may very well be banned for it). Speaking in a broad sense (I'm not trying to address the specifics of your above dispute), most everyone on Wikipedia is aware of the fact that we have content gaps that affect certain people and places, some of which we can fix (through intentional editing efforts) and some of which we cannot (e.g. there is a lack of sources from which to generate content). While users on Wikipedia are obligated to be civil, respectful, and offer sound reasoning for their edits, users can usually choose to edit about whatever topics they wish. Someone who spends their entire time writing about, say, European politicians of the 19th century, is probably doing very little in the way of countering systemic bias. But the act of writing articles on powerful European white guys is not in and of itself wrong or condemnable, and is simply a part of the encyclopedia being improved. Lecturing someone for doing such because you think they could devote more time to other things is going to get you nowhere. The beauty of that is that if you want to spend all your time writing about notable minority ultimate players, you are free to do so. If someone questions an article you write on a minority person for lacking notability, you can quickly resolve their concerns by giving them reliable sources about the person that demonstrates their notability (saying you are countering systemic bias is not enough).

I spend most of my time on African topics, which are pitifully under-covered on Wikipedia. I've been able to be productive in this area by sticking to reliable sources and focusing on the content. I'd like it if more people wrote about African stuff, but it's not my job to goad them into doing so and accusing others of having bad motives would only distract me from my own work. I say this to demonstrate that it is very much possible to write about the content of which one cares without much trouble. Once you and your fellow project mates get a better handle of our technical processes and things like sourcing I'm sure things will smooth out. But please, PLEASE do not insinuate people who disagree with you are doing so because they have a white supremacy problem. Best of luck. -Indy beetle (talk) 04:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dominique Fontenette moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Dominique Fontenette, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Please note 100% of the sources are "in-universe" publications about Ultimate. There is nothing resembling a presumption of notability for either the sport or people who play it. John from Idegon (talk) 02:46, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SWVP ANI closure follow-up

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In light of the recent closure of an administrators noticeboard thread regarding my actions in relation to the Visibility Project, I wanted to make a further effort to bridge any questions that anybody may have regarding my Wikipedia actions. I have an interest in helping ultimate's presence grow on Wikipedia by adding more notable, well-sourced content, and it seems like that intersects a fair amount with the goals of the Visibility Project. In a little time, I will resume working in the ultimate topic area, some of which may include activity on pages that the Visibility Project has claimed. If you have any questions about my editing, the reasoning behind it, or any questions about Wikipedia in general, you can reply below or leave a message at my user talk page. My user talk page is open for any members of the Visibility Project to ask questions about Wikipedia-related topics. Again, I want to state my commitment to bridging any perceived gaps that may remain between Visibility Project members and myself, so please take this message as a genuine offer to try and mend what may seem right now is a broken fence.

Thank you, Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 19:36, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Washington DC Scandal

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Your draft article, Draft:Dominique Fontenette

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:59, 18 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Dominique Fontenette

Hello, Steve42382. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Dominique Fontenette".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:46, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Western Ultimate League Teams has been nominated for merging

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