User talk:Taketa/Archive 1

Welcome!

Welcome to Wikipedia, Taketa! I am EivindJ and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! Eivind (t) 11:04, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reabsorption in Pleura

Thanks for editting on the pleural cavity page. I think, though, you may have misunderstood the reabsortion change you made. The point of that paragraph is that fluid can accumulate in the pleural space but only after it can no longer be reabsorbed. As a physiological response to increasing fluid in the pleural space, there is an increase in the rate of reabsorption. This rate can increase up to 40-fold before one sees fluid accumulating in the space. (Accumulating fluid is BAD.) Hence, I think you were confused because the fluid was increasing even though the rate of reabsorption was also increasing. This is true but still confusing wording. See if my change clarifies this concept. LLDMart (talk) 23:39, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

your explanation clarifies alot. I missed the step that the reabsortion increases when the fluid increases. Thnx for explaining it here, regards, Taketa (talk) 17:46, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MMM! yummy cookies,can i have some? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.16.208.136 (talk) 16:45, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dig in ;) Taketa (talk) 16:45, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i tried to take them off the screen to eat them,but it just didnt work —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.16.208.136 (talk) 16:47, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Odd, it works on this end of the screen. Are you are doing it right? see Cookie for more information. Cheers, Taketa (talk) 16:50, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx, that helped! these cookies r really good!

My Secret Page

Nice! most people don't get it on the first try. :)

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File:Road to politics.jpg, et al.

I've restored per your WP:UND posts but I don't know the proper next step to provide the OTRS permission on the image file pages. Hope you'll do so, and then I'll learn from what you did what to do in the future.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:41, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the help. Best not learn from what I'm doing, since I'm also new at handling permissions. I believe next step is to put in the correct otrs number and transfer the whole lot to commons. Cheers, Taketa (talk) 11:10, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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JohnCD (talk) 22:25, 30 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to your message

As stated on the file page, the image was taken from this source in this article (where it is marked "Cattell aged 15") and not the site mentioned in the otrs ticket. There was no mention of the photographer on the site I used. The picture was taken in England so I assume that the correct template is {{PD-US-1923-abroad}}. I remember a discussion on a similar issue here, where the 70 year rule for images taken in the United Kingdom was discussed. The expert on this is the administrator User:Moonriddengirl. It might be wise to ask her advice again. I understand that in real liife Cattell has been at the centre of an acrimonious controversy recently which has become the subject of a book.[1] Mathsci (talk) 06:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a note [2] on Moonriddengirl's talk page asking for her help in clarifying possible copyright issues. Mathsci (talk) 06:59, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message. I will follow the discussion. Kind regards, Taketa (talk) 16:30, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re: rename

Thank you :) --Joy [shallot] (talk) 06:54, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tucum ring

Hi. There is an article about the black rings I wear. I created it myself a couple of years ago (although I don't really remember creating it, LOL). Go to the page Tucum ring and enjoy yourself, my Dutch friend. =D --Rodrigogomesonetwo (talk) 10:38, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

:) Good to hear from you. I will have a look. - Cheers, Taketa (talk) 19:38, 6 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you answer me on your own talk page? It was hard for me to notice that you replied at all! P.S.: This is the Brazilian guy I was telling you about, the one we teased: [3] --Rodrigogomesonetwo (talk) 21:58, 7 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's just as we discussed in Israel: Dilma Rousseff was named by Forbes as the 3rd most powerful woman in the world, after Angela Merkel and Hillary Clinton: [4] --Rodrigogomesonetwo (talk) 18:24, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User names of Brazilians

I would send you an email, but I have to wait for the confirmation code to use emailuser. I would so like to see our photographs togheter... Nice, nice memories! I'll just wait a little longer for the code and, if I don't get it (apparently my email account is having some kind of trouble, 'cause I'm not receiving emails from Twitter anymore), I'll figure out a way for us to communicate.

The user names of the Brazilian guys are the following (not sure if you wanted from all of them or just from Mateus and Maurício):

Mateus: User:MetalBrasil
Castelo Branco: User:Castelobranco
Jonas: User:Jonas AGX
Everton: User:Everton137
Pietro: User:Pietro Roveri

I don't think Maurício has a Wikimedia account. If you had a Facebook account (like most normal people... =P) you could catch up with him. But, since I'm a very nice guy, I got his email address just for you. It's is mauricio_solutionhotmail.com.

Have a nice weekend!

Rodrigogomesonetwo (talk) 03:22, 26 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No code

Well, it turned out that I didn't received the confirmation code to user emailuser. I don't know how you could send me the photos. Maybe you can send them to my personal e-mail account...? The address is rodrigogomespaixao@bol.com.br. --Rodrigogomesonetwo (talk) 17:25, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OTRS Photos

Hi Taketa, to find copyright holders for pictures, it's really just good old detective work. For public figures, oftentimes their personal websites have contact info for some sort of manager/publicist personality who can get access to pictures. From there, I just explain to them what the Creative Commons are, and offer to upload the photo for them if they (the copyright holder or their representative) forward the release form to Wikimedia. Does that help, or were you looking more for templates or form letters to use? MusicLover650 (talk) 01:23, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Willy Wilhelm

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Nomination of Hubo Netherlands for deletion

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Talkback

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The Wikilink Barnstar

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Ben Pon

Why did you move this page? The son is clearly the primary topic, as a Formula One and Le Mans driver, and Olympian, whereas his father imported Volkswagens. A hatnote would have been a far better solution, especially since you haven't changed any of the links to the son's article. The article title is really not all that brilliant either. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:05, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I changed conform the two other language versions. In my opinion, the first ever Volkswagen importer, on which bases the international Pon Holdings was founded, is more important then a race car driver. If you have any prove that the son is "clearly" the primary topic, please present your case. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 21:08, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ps: I will fix the links after this matter is resolved. Taketa (talk) 21:10, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter in the slightest what other language versions do. I couldn't disagree with you more about your idea of which of these two is more notable. Class wins at Le Mans, reached the highest level of his sport and represented his country at the Olympics? There is no question about it. Is this the Pon Holdings that is so notable that no article existed before today, when you wrote one? How about you prove how, at any point, Ben Pon the racing driver is referred to as "Ben Pon (junior)"? What kind of disambiguation is that? Don't change any links at least until a sensible article title is chosen. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:17, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I only wish the best for the articles. I do not claim that the son is refered to as Ben Pon junior. In disambiguation, the part between brackets is not part of the name. The name of the article is Ben Pon. The diambiguation is junior. His father is senior (father). He is junior (son). This diambiguation I choose based on the diambiguation chosen for the article on the father. I want it to be consistant for both father and son. If you prefer it, this can be changed. For example into birthdates or whole names.

We obviously disagree on noteworthyness. I claim the one is not more noteworthy then the other. The son did win alot, yes, and he did enter the olympics, though he didn;t win. I don;t deny this. This is the reason he has an article. However the father also has an article and is noteworthy as a businessman. I don't think we can resolve the matter with discussion. We either need facts that show the one is mention more, or we need to go for the most neutral choice.

I think the disambiguated version is more neutral. As long as I do not see this proven wrong, I wish to stay with the diambiguated version. Thank you for your cooperation.

Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 21:59, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

btw, here are some google numbers: "Ben Pon": 60.000, "Ben Pon senior": 40.000, "Ben Pon junior": 20.000. This doesn't proove anything concerning which of the two is more mentioned, since I believe most of the "Ben Pon" relate to the son, and alot of the links in general are Wikipedia related. However, the 20.000 links related to junior do proove in my opnion that the name is used. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 22:08, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For the time being, I have moved the articles to Ben Pon, Jr. and Ben Pon, Sr., so that they conform to WP:NCP. I have no doubt whatsoever that the son is the primary topic though. Class wins at Le Mans, driving in Formula One and competing in the Olympics trump anything notability-wise that his father did. Readro (talk) 22:10, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We're simply not going to get any proof or evidence that one is more notable than the other. It's going to be down to discussion. Google hits mean nothing, particularly with two guys with the same name. In his field, i.e. motor racing, Pon was never referred to as "Junior". Notability for the father is actually pretty shaky (most of his article seems to be about what he didn't do), and it's got nothing to do with neutrality. If it is decided by uninvolved editors that one of them is the primary topic, then it shall be so. You don't get to make a choice then challenge others to prove you wrong, that's not how it works. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:37, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You don't just decide something is the primary topic. It is or it is not. Facts do not get decided. You want to have one of the topics as primary topic. So prove it. Yes, I made a change, but that does not mean I am the one in need of prove. I dont make a claim towards the dominance of one of the topics outshining the other topic. But I will stop arguing now and just let you do whatever it is you feel. I am not going to argue any longer if some topic is more noteworthy then another. Such things in a topic with only 60k google hits is a waste of time. I am sure we can be of more use doing something else. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 23:28, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't decide, no - editors do. You might want to read WP:PRIMARYTOPIC; it's not a question of proof. Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:35, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The word "you" can be read in multiple ways. In this case it did not mean you as one person. You believe you are following guidelines, which is good. But please, please never forget to think what you are doing. Currently this discussion is not working towards the best of Wikipedia. The way in which this discussion is being done does not feel friendly to me and I will not continue it. Best of luck to you, Taketa (talk) 00:01, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry you feel that way, no malice is intended. However, I don't know why you might think I am not thinking about what I'm doing, or why else we might be having this discussion if not for the betterment of Wikipedia. I don't make debate for the sake of it, and guidelines exist to be followed, not ignored. Your participation in any discussions elsewhere will always be welcome of course, and I will inform you anyway if and when any discussion is held. Bretonbanquet (talk) 00:33, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

don't worry, I know you mean well. You just come across to me in a rude way. For example you do not greet at the beginning or ending of your messages. And things like "You might want to read guideline", while you could say the same with, "I base myself on guideline". Or look at you first sentence, "Why did you change this". Not a way to greet me is it? I was immediately not motivated to greet you either. Or you second message, this is what I read "It doesn;t matter in the slightest", "I couldn't disagree more" and "There is no question about it". That does not motivate me to talk you. No insult meant, just saying you might want to work on your bedside manner. It comes across rude if you do not use extra messures to be friendly in a written message. Specially if you intend to be critical. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 13:51, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Everyone has different ways of using talk pages - I don't always use greetings but that doesn't mean I'm trying to be unfriendly. I am probably more "to the point" that many people, but I do not believe my first post was in any way rude. When I said you might want to read the guideline, I meant just that - you might want to, or you might not - I wasn't telling you that you had to read it. We had a disagreement - I did find your page move and your subsequent metaphorical shrug of the shoulders very frustrating, and my manner probably reflected that. But while I am very rarely openly rude, I do not sugarcoat my comments. I can see you are a decent and productive editor, and I hope you do not take any offence where none is intended. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 14:56, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have made a request for a page move at Talk:Ben Pon, Jr.#Requested move, so anyone can have their say. I hope you will be involved. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:15, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Synthon

I noticed your recent move.

I think that synthon should remain the primary article. Its current location is somewhat ambiguous. We can always add a hatnote to direct users to Synthon (company). --Rifleman 82 (talk) 03:40, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rifleman, feel free to make changes as you see best. Cheers, Taketa (talk) 13:31, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dale Dubin

Thanks for the heads-up on the proposed re-creation of Dale Dubin - Draeco (talk) 04:42, 7 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Photocaucus

Hello, user. What pictures do you prefer?

Option C/E)

Option B)

Option D)

--Belibaste (talk) 22:42, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, really depends on the thing you are going for. For on the top of a page about the election, I prefer the top set of images. In the text itself I would prefer the middle set. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 21:14, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There are the three options in the place:

C/E[5]
B[6]
D[7]

--Belibaste (talk) 07:28, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I like B, sincerely, Taketa (talk) 16:59, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Hans-Georg Koitz

Hello Taketa,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Hans-Georg Koitz for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks, Sosthenes12 (talk) 18:04, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Taketa, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled right to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! Secret ^account 18:49, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I declined the CSD above, and quickly gave you autopatrolled status as a long-standing trusted user. Secret ^account 18:49, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And considering you are an adminstrator in the Dutch Wikipedia I also gave you WP:ROLLBACK and

Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges. A full list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on will be at Special:StablePages.

Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also:

Wikipedia:Reviewing, the guideline on reviewing
Wikipedia:Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes
Wikipedia:Protection policy#Pending changes protection, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators.

Hi Secret, thanks for the notice. Keep up the good work. Cheers, Taketa (talk) 18:58, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Hi Taketa! I'm sorry I nominated your page for deletion earlier. It was an error on my part and I'm not sure why I did that since the notability was clear. I realized my mistake later and am glad someone else already removed the deletion tag. Anyway, I hope there is no hard feelings! Thanks for all your work on Wikipedia! Perhaps this kitty will make your day just a bit happier!

Sosthenes12 (talk) 00:07, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sosthenes12, I was indeed wondering about that nomination. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers, Taketa (talk) 06:35, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Frans Wiertz

Hello, Taketa. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Frans Wiertz, for deletion because it's a biography of a living person that lacks references. If you don't want Frans Wiertz to be deleted, please add a reference to the article.

If you don't understand this message, you can leave a note on my talk page.

Thanks, EagerToddler39 (talk) 12:30, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Arbcom

Geachte arbitragecommissie, Op vrijdag 5 april begon ik een zaak tegen gebruiker:Wikiklaas. Nu de 72 uur (gesteld in uw richtlijnen) zijn verstreken vraag ik u: hoe lang duurt het nog alvorens de zaak bij de Arbitragecommissie behandeld wordt? Ik stel een snelle reactie op prijs. Hoogachtend, --Borvo (talk) 13:55, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Michel

Hi. Are you planning on making an article Joseph Michel (politician), because if not then moving the composer (not "musician", "composer") to a disambiguated title seems rather odd. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:25, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have no plans of making the article at the moment. I expect someone will eventually. Your English customs are different then the Dutch, so if this is not wanted then feel free to change. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 18:39, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No, if you don't mind I prefer that you return everything to the original state, thank you. In ictu oculi (talk) 19:29, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear In ictu oculi, I see you are the author of the article. I have also seen the discussion at User talk:RHaworth#No other article. I am sure you mean well. Please be assured everyone else means well too. From what I see you are currently very involved with this move. Don't worry, everything can be turned back.I have been reading up and have come to the conclusion it might be best to indeed undo the move. I have asked RHaworth if he can do this, since a regular user like myself can not. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 20:44, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"From what I see you are currently very involved with this move." - no, I'm not "very involved" but please understand the move you just made was very unusual, and counter en.wp practice as described in WP:AT, WP:DAB and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. That's all. Cheers. Thank you for fixing it. And best use WP:RM for moves. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:09, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the cookies :). Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 13:53, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome.

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Questions and an answer

Greetings, User:Taketa. I've added my response to a comment you wrote on User:朝鲜的轮子's User talk page. Please read it, as it concerns you as well. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 07:55, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you are wrong User:Deborahjay. Asking hundreds of random questions is not usefull in any way to anyone. Not even the person asking. Taketa (talk) 08:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Ocaasi, thank you for the update. I have read the information and will definitely apply. - Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 06:07, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cardinals

Just note: no one is "ordained" a cardinal. They just get the title officially in February. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 23:13, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am Dutch, we call it create. I copied this particular text from another article about a cardinal and missed this. Thanks for noticing. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 09:35, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Adding medical content to Dutch Wikipedia

I hear you are a Dutch medical Wikipedian. We are translating content from English into Dutch as shown in this table.[8] Wondering if you can help add / integrate the translations? Instructions are here [9]. Let me know if you have any questions. Also if there are articles listed in the table that should not be translated can you update the table? Thanks Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 15:45, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Doc James, I will have a look what the translation project is all about coming weekend when I have a bit more time. Cheers, Taketa (talk) 19:04, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Details are explained here Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Translation_task_force. Let me know if you have any question. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 02:37, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any thoughts? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 20:34, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Doc James, I have had a look. I'm sorry to say that I don't want to participate. It is a great idea and good project, just not for me. The project works on a translate site outside Wikipedia, and I dont want to work on something that goes beyond the wikispace for no reason. I might translate on Wikipedia itself, but not on another translate website. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 17:00, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay no worries. We are not looking for people to translate articles though. We are looking for people to add articles that are already translated with all the Wikimedia Markup in place. This article nl:Hersenvliesontsteking was created through this process. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 02:31, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If we placed the translations on a page on Dutch Wikipedia (thus no use of another website needed) would you be willing to help integrate them? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 21:09, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here is an example [10] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 21:18, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Doc James, I assume you mean to merge the newly written article with the existing one. Sure, I can help with that. I'll have a look during the day tomorrow. Cheers, Taketa (talk) 21:38, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PS: maybe we could add a permanent "merger help needed" section to the top of nl:Wikipedia:Medisch café.

Yes I mean merge the translation with the existing one. Adding a "merger help needed" tag would be great. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 21:50, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a new section to the template at the top of nl:WP:MED called Samenvoeghulp gevraagd. I will ofcourse have a look myself as well. If you need any help in the future, please just change the section at the top of nl:WP:MED. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 22:07, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Crisco 1492, you must have made a mistake. I never edited this article. I create articles with a topic nearly the same, but not this particular article. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 09:00, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Taketa, it looks like Theparties added you as one of the article contributors when s/he nominated the article for DYK. I do not know why Theparties did that, though perhaps you can ask him/her. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:07, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see it already, I was author of the second article that did not make the cut. Cheers, Taketa (talk) 21:37, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. I reverted addition of material to the Paula Garces article because it was not accompanied by a citation of a reliable, published source. If you want to restore it, please make sure it includes a citation, per WP:V, WP:CS, etc. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 18:28, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Nightscream, reverting someones edit is ofcourse something done with care. Wikipedia is based on good faith, where edits are seen as good, unless there is reason to doubt. When in doubt you search yourself or ask the author for sources. Not looking up this birthdate, and instead reverting it before asking, comes across as bad faith. Sources are very easy to find if you look on the internet: [11] (IMBD), [12] and [13] (Starmedia). Or if internetmedia are not sufficient, how about [14] (The Daily Telegraph (Australia)), or a book as reference (ISBN 9780983139010), or her self in her blog on the website of Peoples magazine [15]. Next time please ask the author before reverting. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 18:59, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not looking up this birthdate, and instead reverting it before asking, comes across as bad faith.

Um, no, that's not how it works. The way it works is, if you want to add or include material in an article, then the responsibility to source it is yours. You don't tell other editors that they have to do your sourcing for you. That's rather presumptuous, and a rather glaring refusal on your part to take responsibility for your own additions. My Watchlist, and my daily edit count are quite large enough as they are, and it is inappropriate for you to expect me to clean up after you. Holding each editor responsible for the material they want to add to articles is rather logical and fair, I think, and has never been regarded by community as "bad faith" in the nine years I've been editing here.

And in any event, if you were inclined to add the sources when asked, why did you not add them when you reverted my edit?

As far as IMDB is concerned, websites with user-generated content, such as imdb, are not reliable under WP:USERG.

Again, if you want to restore the information, please accompany it with the appropriate citations. That information will not be allowed to remain in the article without it. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 21:34, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"And in any event, if you were inclined to add the sources when asked, why did you not add them when you reverted my edit?" <-- I did, you reverted 3 sources I added... A national Australian Newspaper, Peoples magazine with a statement by the person themselves and a book on birthdates. I have no idea what you are talking about.

Wikipedia:Citing sources. Wikipedia's Verifiability policy requires inline citations for any material challenged or likely to be challenged, and for all quotations, anywhere in article space. However, editors are advised to provide citations for all material added to Wikipedia; any unsourced material risks being unexpectedly challenged or eventually removed. Not adding a source is not perfect of me. However, I considered this material not the type to be challenged since it is readily available to anyone with any ability to type a name in google or go to the external link. If anyone unexpectedly wants to challenge it, I will respond. But unexpected removals, that goes too far.

I challenge you, if you are indeed correct and I am indeed wrong, your edit was good and my edit was bad, that me adding the birthdate was "wrong": that you go now to any 100 articles and do your "improvement" like you did to me right now, remove on 100 biographies without source for the birthdate the birthdate. i will happily provide you 100 names. See if people consider you a great contributor or a vandal. I bet a vandal. Thus, your single action right now and here, was not a nice one either. (and if you want I will even do the edits for you, naming you in my summary..., that this great "contribution" was inspired by you). If 100x the good action is bad, then 1x the good action is bad.

I completely disapprove of your action and your "explanation" changes nothing. Goodbye, Taketa (talk) 00:01, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So your argument is that material requires citations only when it isn't readily available via a Google search? If that's the case, then where would the source with the information come from? Wouldn't this mean that sources are only needed if they're print sources, or the kind you can only find with a visit to a library or book store, thus excluding all online sources?

Dates of birth are indeed challenged. If you don't believe me, trying covering a public event where celebrities are in attendance, as I frequently do as a photographer for the Commons and Wikipedia. When they learn you're from Wikipedia, you might get an earful about material in their Wikipedia that they take issue with, and yes, this includes things like dates of birth, ethnicity, etc. Actors, for example (especially female ones), tend to care quite a bit about the personal info given in their Wikipedia articles.

As far as my revert of the sources you added, I apologize for that; I don't know how I missed those. When I saw the little red alert box that said you "reverted" my edit, it does not specify when other changes are made to the article, and I should've looked more carefully than I did. (Usually, I do so). As for my edit summary, I meant to write "uncited", but Autocorrect apparently chose a prior one I used that said "uncited and false", which was not my intent. Sorry about that.

Thanks for adding the sources; it is much appreciated. Take care. Nightscream (talk) 01:28, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nightscream, thank you for clarifying the last edit. On topic, I consider this not likely to be challenged since all people seem to agree on it. Also in this case the birthdate is in the first hit if you type the name in google. And finally it is cited alot. I can imagine that some birthdates are cited differently in differing sources and might be more easily challenged. Also some sources are simply not found if you look up a person, you need to do some very specfic searches, or it is pay only, or book only or it is being said in a video review. Finally if something is only mentioned a single time it is less reliable. But I will not spend more time on this. The result now is acceptable to us both, that is what matters. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 01:43, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter if sources agree on it. You still have to add them to the article. Again, you're implying that if sources are found via Google, then they don't have to be in the article. That's a non sequitur and backwards. It is precisely because readers need to know where a given piece of information comes from that we have to place that information in the article. Widely and publicly known facts like "France is a country in Europe" and "Christmas falls on December 25" don't need citations. Things like where or when a person was born indeed do. This has been my practice, and the practice of others on Wikipedia, as I've observed since I began editing in early 2005. Regular editors who argue otherwise are in the extreme minority. Nightscream (talk) 04:46, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Karel Poborsky image

The problem with that photo is that it's not really of Poborsky. He's hardly in the image, and you can see Smicer far more clearly. Furthermore, you can only see Poborsky's face in profile. You may be able to recognise him, but it's a poor image. Restore it if you like, but don't be surprised if others have a problem with it too. – Pee Jay 13:32, 16 June 2014 (UTC) Hi PeeJayK3, thanks for the reply. I'll restore it then. Maybe someone can cut the other person out of the picture. But until then, I think it is better then no image. Cheers, Taketa (talk) 13:48, 16 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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