User talk:Tgreach

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Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools

Thanks for your contributions to improving the subject article. --Orlady (talk) 04:53, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

R. L. Hymers, Jr.

Dear Tgreach: You say this article needs additional citations for verification. Please help us by letting us know where these citations are needed. Wikipedia themselves have not asked for further citations. There are 26 citations in this short article already, which seems like quite a lot. If we need more, please tell us where you think they should go.

kdl4082

See the talk page, others have the same issue. Tgreach (talk) 19:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don Stewart Article

The article needs more verification and references and I thank you for pointing that out. You also did a good job in beginning the organizing structure of the article. However, just because a charge from a disgruntled former employee or a religious bigot appears in a news article or tabloid television program doesn’t make it true. In the matter of Stewart and his organization’s legal status there is no more reliable source or reference than the legal bodies that license and govern these corporations. Documentation from the Texas Secretary of State’s office shows that the Don Stewart Association has been non-profit in good standing for the past 20 years. I didn’t see how to access further records from their web-site, so when did this loss of non-profit status occur and how is it relevant if it is much older, since they have been doing things properly this long? There is no record of financial misuse. The US Tax court had a question of clerical filings and paper work that was cleared up in 2001. However, they have no record or charges of financial misconduct such as the eight million dollars to family members that you say your articles claim to have. What court or legal licensing board substantiated these claims? I can’t find it.

Secondly, it looks like Wikipedia is being used as a second web-site for the Trinity Foundation. Is this really okay with Wikipedia? While the organization is reassuring to Southern Baptist’s and finding your ministry criticized by them is a badge of honor for Pentecostals, using them and Fisher as a reference clearly violates Wikipedia’s NPOV.

Finally if you say anything about Stewart you have to mention his Green Prayer Cloth. I know it’s odd, but it doesn’t matter if you like it or not, that is what he is famous for and using his own words of why he does it from his television program, puts it safely inside Wikipedia’s NPOV guidelines.

I’m currently doing a lot of detailed research on healing evangelists for a possible book, not particularly favorable, but culturally and historically accurate and fair. They have many things to criticize, but my research shows they have also been unduly singled out in certain areas that other religious leaders haven’t. As I continue to research claims against them in print, particularly in legal matters, the misinformation and false claims are shocking.

Don Stewart is a small fish in a small pond which in itself is a double standard. For instance there is nothing in Billy Graham’s Wikipedia about the number of family members on his ministerial organization’s payroll, the ministries private jet, various homes around the world, etc. Stewart has been in the ministry for 50 years and he doesn’t have a private jet. In fact for the first 20 years of ministry he raised his family out of a trailer he pulled behind his car. If he has some comforts now so what. Either way it’s not Wikipedia’s job to pass judgment or criticize him or Billy Graham.

This article needs to be about who he is culturally and historically. If you think it would be helpful we can take this up with Wikipedia. There are clear Wikipedia guidelines on liability to living persons that we must respect. Thanks for your hard work and input, but I am concerned about a perceived malicious tone in your recent edits that could be misunderstood by some. It almost seems like the point you are trying to make is that Stewart is a crook, rather than an objective article about his place in American culture as a healing evangelist. I hope I’m mistaken in this perception. Thanks again. Harvest09 (talk) 23:16, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:RS and WP:NPOV. If you can point me to positive and/or negative WP:RS about Stewart, I'll gladly add them. If you want to mention his "Green Prayer Cloth" then make sure it comes from a RS. Tgreach (talk) 23:18, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Be careful

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. I realize that you are not the main instigator, but you are participating. --Orlady (talk) 00:14, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

William M. Branham

It is good to see your interest in this article but some of your recent edits need attention. All your links to newspapers mentioning the death of William Branham lead to a commercial website [1] You also need to amend your comment about Marie Hope Branham - she was not the infant daughter of William Branham - his infant daughter (Sharon Rose) died in 1937, not in the car crash that killed him. The only other people in the car in the '65 crash were his wife, Meda, and his 14 year old daughter, Sarah, both of whom survived. It is interesting to note that this newspaper article [2] calls Sarah "Marie", which is very clearly an error ... just shows newspapers are not always right! Rev107 (talk) 06:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All links to historical records are going to be commerical websites as no newspaper reprints random articles 50 years old for free. They are all independent verifiable, but I figured I'd link to ancestry.com, the online source for the articles. It is a WP:RS for historical records. Tgreach (talk) 03:08, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ray Bohlin. Thanks. Jaque Hammer (talk) 14:31, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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