User talk:Theapropos

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If I post something, your admin will simply remove it unless it is verified? He cannot edit it and repost it in an acceptable form?

Certain information are not verifiable. I cannot retrieve old posts from forums. I cannot even access old news articles here! So how do you suggest we deal with this?

Now look at this line On 18 May 2011, Lee Hsien Loong announced that Goh was to be appointed a senior advisor to the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS), and would be given the honorary title of "Emeritus Senior Minister

There has never been an "Emeritus Senior Minister" post before in this country. Clearly this position was explicitly created for him. And yet when I edited this it was removed. How do you verify a negative? Am I not even allowed to say that this never existed before?

Reply to {{Help me}} request: I fixed formatting on your questions above, and now I will answer them as best I can. First off your information was not removed by an administrator but by a regular editor like you and me. That's the way Wikipedia works, many editors working on the encyclopedia and reaching consensus on what is correct. It is not always possible for an editor to take the time to research new information added by someone else if that person did not provide a reference. Every time you change the encyclopedia without citing the source of your information, you run the risk of having it reverted by a subsequent editor.

Look at it like this, you learned this information somewhere, and now you want the rest of the world to know it. All you have to do is tell us where you learned it, and if that source is reliable, verifiable, and third party (i.e. not too closely connected to the subject of the article), your edit will not be reverted.

There may never have been another "Emeritus Senior Minister" in your country before, that's interesting and belongs in the article if true. Somewhere some reliable source, like an established news or academic source, will have reported that this is a first. Just cite that source and you're all set. I'm sure you can understand why an encyclopedia which is one of the most popular sites on the Internet cannot just take your word for it that something is correct. Wikipedia could never exist if we all did not insist on proper sources.

My message contains many links which will further explain what I have written, as does the welcome message at the top of this page. Please feel free to reply to this message here if you need more help, I will watch this page for a few days and come back to help if you need it. — Bill W. (Talk) (Contrib) — 19:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If my source is from Wikipedia Senior Minister can I cite that? Theapropos (talk) 19:27, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I moved your question here from my talk page. We don't cite Wikipedia from within Wikipedia we just provide a wikilink to the other article within the article. — Bill W. (Talk) (Contrib) — 19:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edits to Goh Chok Tong

Hello, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed that you recently added commentary to the Goh Chok Tong article. While Wikipedia welcomes editors' opinions on an article and how it could be changed, these comments are more appropriate for the article's accompanying talk page. If you post your comments there, other editors working on the same article will notice and respond to them, and your comments will not disrupt the flow of the article. Thank you! kikichugirl ^inquire 19:54, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]