User talk:Unicornshark
A summary of site policies and guidelines you may find useful
[edit]- Please sign your posts on talk pages with four tildes (~~~~, found next to the 1 key), and please do not alter other's comments.
- "Truth" is not the criteria for inclusion, verifiability is.
- We do not publish original thought nor original research. We merely summarize reliable sources without elaboration or interpretation.
- Reliable sources typically include: articles from magazines or newspapers (particularly scholarly journals), or books by recognized authors (basically, books by respected publishers). Online versions of these are usually accepted, provided they're held to the same standards. User generated sources (like Wikipedia) are to be avoided. Self-published sources should be avoided except for information by and about the subject that is not self-serving (for example, citing a company's website to establish something like year of establishment).
- Articles are to be written from a neutral point of view. Wikipedia is not concerned with facts or opinions, it just summarizes reliable sources. This usually means that secular academia is given prominence over any individual sect's doctrines, though those doctrines may be discussed in an appropriate section that clearly labels those beliefs for what they are.
Reformulated:
- "Truth" is not the only criteria for inclusion, verifiability is also required.
- Always cite a source for any new information. When adding this information to articles, use <ref>reference tags like this</ref>, containing the name of the source, the author, page number, publisher or web address (if applicable).
- We do not publish original thought nor original research. We're not a blog, we're not here to promote any ideology.
- A subject is considered notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject.
- Reliable sources typically include: articles from magazines or newspapers (particularly scholarly journals), or books by recognized authors (basically, books by respected publishers). Online versions of these are usually accepted, provided they're held to the same standards. User generated sources (like Wikipedia) are to be avoided. Self-published sources should be avoided except for information by and about the subject that is not self-serving (for example, citing a company's website to establish something like year of establishment).
- Articles are to be written from a neutral point of view. Wikipedia is not concerned with facts or opinions, it just summarizes reliable sources. Real scholarship actually does not say what understanding of the world is "true," but only with what there is evidence for. In the case of science, this evidence must ultimately start with physical evidence. In the case of religion, this means only reporting what has been written and not taking any stance on doctrine.
- Material must be proportionate to what is found in the source cited. If a source makes a small claim and presents two larger counter claims, the material it supports should present one claim and two counter claims instead of presenting the one claim as extremely large while excluding or downplaying the counter claims.
- We do not give equal validity to topics which reject and are rejected by mainstream academia. For example, our article on Earth does not pretend it is flat, hollow, and/or the center of the universe.
Also, not a policy or guideline, but something important to understand the above policies and guidelines: Wikipedia operates off of objective information, which is information that multiple persons can examine and agree upon. It does not include subjective information, which only an individual can know from an "inner" or personal experience. Most religious beliefs fall under subjective information. Wikipedia may document objective statements about notable subjective claims (i.e. "Christians believe Jesus is divine"), but it does not pretend that subjective statements are objective, and will expose false statements masquerading as subjective beliefs (cf. Indigo children).
You may also want to read User:Ian.thomson/ChristianityAndNPOV. We at Wikipedia are highbrow (snobby), heavily biased for the academia.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. All we do here is cite, summarize, and paraphrase professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources, without addition, nor commentary. We're not a directory, nor a forum, nor a place for you to "spread the word". Tgeorgescu (talk) 05:48, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
In place of an apology
[edit]- "No, you may not, and you will get blocked and eventually banned if you persist. " Great way to start a talk page with threats. May I remind you that Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers is a behavioral guideline? Dimadick (talk) 09:55, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Frankly, some editors start in a way that blocks and bans are unavoidable if they do not change their own mind about their edits. I want them to know very clearly what they should expect and what they can do to avoid being blocked and banned. Of course, the choice is theirs. I prefer giving them the full information rather than hide it from them. To be sure: I started just like him/her, but I was prepared to learn from experienced editors who told me what's wrong with my edits. You see, it is not lack of experience that gets one blocked, but stubbornness. Tgeorgescu (talk) 10:55, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Copy/pasted from Talk:Historicity of the Bible. Tgeorgescu (talk) 11:00, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
A suggestion
[edit]The above, and the result at the article's talk page was a lot of text and may be confusing. In short, I suggest making more specific suggestions at article talk pages, including citations that could be evaluated. This is because the material of the encyclopedia must summarize the view of notable mainstream scholars and include references for verification. I hope this helps, and welcome, —PaleoNeonate – 02:28, 27 May 2019 (UTC)