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Wikidata weekly summary #203
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Upcoming: WWW 2016
- Upcoming: WikiCite 2016
- Past: Wikimedia hackathon.
- Some of the things that were worked on (but are not finished yet):
- Easier referencing like it is done in VisualEditor
- Data imports including National Library of Israel
- Getting the ArticlePlaceholder ready for deployment on the first small Wikipedias
- Updated maps of the geocoordinates in Wikidata (Adam will publish a blog post with them soon)
- Improvements for Librarybase
- Automated language links for Wiktionary
- Cleanup of existing data import tools
- partial group photo
- Some of the things that were worked on (but are not finished yet):
- Objetos culturales y metadatos: hacia la liberación de datos en Wikidata
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Lucie published her thesis about supporting small Wikipedias through article placeholders based on Wikidata
- This article from Russian Wikipedia is generated only with Lua Module and Listeria, based on its Wikidata item.
- If you're into Wikidata, GLAM and Facebook there is now a Facebook group for you.
- There are 4 new games to help with the migration of the Persondata template on English Wikipedia.
- There was a huge increase in the number of qualifiers over the last 2 weeks. It went from 2.6 to 3.7 Million due to additions of qualifiers for evidence codes on human and mouse proteins.
- Interested in seeing Wikidata training sessions at Wikimania? Add yourself to interested attendees for the sessions.
- PetScan now has item creator functionality.
- The catalog of the National Library of Israel has been added to Mix'n'match
- Great examples on French and Russian Wikipedia for infobox based on Wikidata: fr:Andrew Tanenbaum, ru:Таненбаум, Эндрю and references based on Wikidata: fr:Trappeur, ru:Доказательство с нулевым разглашением
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: dataset distribution, file format, protocol, URL, CricketArchive player ID, ESPNcricinfo player ID, FIG gymnast identifier, type locality, ISU figure skater identifier, New York Times Semantic Concept: Descriptor, New York Times Semantic Concept: Location, New York Times Semantic Concept: Organization, New York Times Semantic Concept: Person, BARTOC ID, Box Office Mojo person ID, NDL JPNO, Opensecrets Identifier, Basketball-Reference.com NBA player ID, Kijkwijzer rating, Bekker Number, is verso of, is recto of, author of afterword, author of foreword, Russiancinema.ru film ID, relative position within image, rating certificate ID, reply to
- Newest WikiProjects: Historical Place
- Query examples: phrases, Redewendungen, most commons eponyms
- Development
- 4 years ago we started coding on Wikidata. What a ride it has been and continues to be. <3 to everyone who is a part of it.
- We are going to make a change to the RDF format for geocoordinates.
- Here is a preview of geospatial search on the query service.
- The query service now has bubble charts as a visualization option (example)
- Busy at the Wikimedia hackathon.
- Monthly Tasks
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
- Contribute to a Showcase item
- Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
SB
"Women are everywhere"
Hi Mduvekot. I'm an editor (not very active till now) of the Italian Wikipedia, where the gender gap is a real issue. I'm trying to participate to an IEG with the project "Women are everywhere". You will find the draft at this link https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_are_everywhere It would be great if you could have a look at it. I need any kind of suggestion or advice to improve it. Support or endorsement would be fantastic. Many thanks, --Kenzia (talk) 18:46, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Laura Aguilar
I wanted to thank you for all of the work you've been doing on her Wikipedia entry. I love her photography but I haven't had the time or resources to maintain the entry as I would like! Many thanks, Roving Ginger (talk) 20:38, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Roving ginger:You're very welcome. I enjoy working on citations. Unfortunately I don't have direct access to all the sources that are listed in Further Reading, so work on integrating those into the body of the article will have to wait. Mduvekot (talk) 20:52, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #204
- Discussion
- Splitting a property to limit formatter URLs to one per property: Authority_control#DE-ISIL
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Past: digikult.se
- Upcoming: IRC office hour
- Upcoming: FOSSCOMM
- A week of looking at women
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: typeface/font, disjoint union of, union of, Biographical Directory of Federal Judges id, UNZ journal identifier, UNZ author identifier, Persée journal ID, Persée author ID, Projeto Excelências ID, ISSF ID, Badminton World Federation ID, CageMatch worker ID, United World Wrestling ID, UIPM ID, GOG application ID, Deezer track ID, Deezer album ID, Deezer artist ID, Encyclopaedia Metallum release ID, embed URL, Hungarian-style transcription, lowest-observed-adverse-effect level, no-observed-adverse-effect level, collage image, elected in, sectional view, median lethal concentration, minimal lethal concentration, Cycling Quotient identifier (cyclist, woman), Cycling Quotient identifier (women races), Karate Records ID, EIDR identifier, British Film Institute identifier
- Query examples: women with most sitelinks and no image born in 1921 or later, what is depicted in artwork, most eponymous mathematicians
- Showcase items: Iron Man (film)
- Development
- Lucie successfully defended her thesis about the ArticlePlaceholder. Congrats!
- Worked more on the first version of the user interface for structured data for multimedia files
- Worked on simplifying input of queries for people who do not know SPARQL
- Improved localizability of the sitelink and reference counters
- Allow input and output of localized dates with precision smaller than years (phab:T95532 and phab:T127820)
- More string properties have been converted to external id ones, so that we have over 850 external id properties now
- Experimenting with Citoid support for Wikidata to make it easier to add complete references in the way Visual Editor does it
- Improved performance of sticky property labels (phab:T103485)
- Released DataValues JavaScript 0.8.1
- Monthly Tasks
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
- Contribute to a Showcase item
- Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
Warren Bell Hamilton page
As I started building this page, I received a note that it had been marked for deletion because it's about a living person and in the first iteration (only the intro paragraph) had no references. Subsequently I added references including links to the National Academy of Sciences, Geological Society of America, and Colorado School of Mines websites, as well as several books.
I'm just writing to check whether these meet expectations for legitimate references, and the page will no longer be marked for deletion.
thanks, Larry Hamilton (IChiloe) — Preceding unsigned comment added by IChiloe (talk • contribs) 16:37, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
- @IChiloe: I noticed you have recreated the Warren Bell Hamilton page at Warren B. Hamilton, this time with references. That solves the issues that led me to nominated the page for deletion per WP:BLPPROD. Thank you for fixing the lack of references. Mduvekot (talk) 20:10, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #205
- Discussion
- Closed request for comments: Reforming the property creation process, Improve bot policy for data import and data modification
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Past: office hour on IRC (log)
- Past: ISB2016 (slides)
- Past: WWW2016 - Freebase to Wikidata migration (slides)
- Past: CUNY Wikidata intro (slides)
- National Library of Wales: Our Wikidata Visiting Scholar
- New TSRI Project Helps Researchers Build a Biomedical Knowledgebase
- Yle <3 Wikidata - using Wikidata for concept tagging
- Other noteworthy stuff
- ArticlePlaceholder is going live on the first small Wikipedias on May 11th and could use your help
- Wikimedia Commons will get the arbitrary access feature on April 26th
- The Europeana Art History Challenge has started
- Magnus made a handy user-script for duplicating items, for when a new item has similar property values to an existing one. See for instance, this set of edits for a second version of an artwork.
- Listeria now has a status page
- PetScan has now the option "Has no statements" to find items without statements for a category at Wikipedia (sample: en:Category:United States geography stubs) or an entire language version (sample: "sowiki").
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: production statistics, DNZB, PASE name, this zoological name is coordinate with, Australian Geological Provinces Database Identifier, Tate artist identifier, ResearchGate institute ID
- Newest WikiProjects: d:Wikidata:WikiProject Museums
- Query examples: items named after their shape, recent events, assemblies by number of seats, characters portrayed by most actors
- Development
- Query results for the query service are now cached by default for 60 seconds (phabricator:T126730)
- Finishing touches on easier input of geocoordinates and dates (sneak peek)
- Finishing touches on easier manipulation of SPARQL queries (sneak peel - should go live later today)
- Significantly reduced the write access to the database to make sure we're not frying the poor servers unnecessarily
- Getting ArticlePlaceholder ready for first deployment
- More work on first prototype for structured data support for Wikimedia Commons
- Cleaned up icons for selecting rank and value type
- Monthly Tasks
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
- Contribute to a Showcase item
- Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 8
This month:
In the last issue of the WikiProject X Newsletter, I discussed the upcoming Wikipedia Requests system: a central database for outstanding work on Wikipedia. I am pleased to announce Wikipedia Requests is live! Its purpose is to supplement automatically generated lists, such as those from SuggestBot, Reports bot, or Wikidata. It is currently being demonstrated on WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health (which I work on as part of my NIOSH duties) and WikiProject Women scientists.
Adding a request is as simple as filling out a form. Just go to the Add form to add your request. Adding sources will help ensure that your request is fulfilled more quickly. And when a request is fulfilled, simply click "mark as complete" and it will be removed from all the lists it's on. All at the click of a button! (If anyone is concerned, all actions are logged.)
With this new service is a template to transclude these requests: {{Wikipedia Requests}}. It's simple to use: add the template to a page, specifying article=
, category=
, or wikiproject=
, and the list will be transcluded. For example, for requests having to do with all living people, just do {{Wikipedia Requests|category=Living people}}
. Use these lists on WikiProjects but also for edit-a-thons where you want a convenient list of things to do on hand. Give it a shot!
The value of Wikipedia Requests comes from being a centralized database. The long work to migrating individual lists into this combined list is slowly underway. As of writing, we have 883 open tasks logged in Wikipedia Requests. We need your help building this list.
If you know of a list of missing articles, or of outstanding tasks for existing articles, that you would like to migrate to this new system, head on over to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Requests#Transition project and help out. Doing this will help put your list in front of more eyes—more than just your own WikiProject.
WikiProject X maintains a database that associates article talk pages (and draft talk pages) with WikiProjects. This database powers many of the reports that Reports bot generates. However, until very recently, this database was not made available to others who might find its data useful. It's only common sense to open up the database and let others build tools with it.
And indeed: Citation Hunt, the game to add citations to Wikipedia, now lets you filter by WikiProject, using the data from our database.
Are you a tool developer interested in using this? Here are some details: the database resides on Tool Labs with the name s52475__wpx_p
. The table that associates WikiProjects with articles and drafts is called projectindex
. Pages are stored by talk page title but in the future this should change. Have fun!
- The work on the CollaborationKit extension continues. The extension will initially focus on reducing template and Lua bloat on WikiProjects (especially our WPX UI demonstration projects), and will from there create custom interfaces for creating and maintaining WikiProjects.
- The WikiCite meeting will be in Berlin in May. The goal of the meeting is to figure out how to build a bibliographic database for use on the Wikimedia projects. This fits in quite nicely with WikiProject X's work: we want to make it easier for people to find things to work on, and with a powerful, open bibliographic database, we can build recommendations for sources. This feature was requested by the Wikipedia Library back in September, and this meeting is a major next step. We look forward to seeing what comes out of this meeting.
Until next time,
Harej (talk) 01:29, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
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I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Swpb. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Face superiority effect, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. —swpbT 19:49, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
tsinghua school
The tsinghua school edit is valid and accurate! you shouldn't reverse the edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:8500:5200:64C1:2970:79FF:78F1 (talk) 01:09, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
- Your edits at Tsinghua International School were undone as vandalism because of this vandalism. Mduvekot (talk) 20:04, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #206
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Writing a bachelor's thesis at Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
- Europeana Art History Challenge begins
- TED is partnering with the Wikimedia community to add “ideas worth spreading” to Wikimedia projects
- Wikidata meets world literature
- Centralizing content and distributing labor: a community model for curating the very long tail of microbial genomes (conference poster)
- Past: Wikimedia Conference
- Other noteworthy stuff
- SQUID: a new class and property browser for Wikidata (background info)
- Wikidata Graph Builder now can visualize graphs with different node sizes. See for instance, types of artists with number of people, occupied with each subclass item
- List of items that have English, German, and French sitselinks, but no statements
- List of articles on English Wikipedia with a video where the corresponding item has no video
- Listeria bot (the one generating lists on Wikipedia based on Wikidata data) will now begin auto-replacing simple WDQ queries with SPARQL ones
- Magnus is looking for a designer to help with a logo for PetScan
- Arbitrary access for Wikimedia Commons is coming as planned on the 26th
- Wikidata surpassed English Wikipedia in items/articles using files from Wikimedia Commons
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: Danish listed buildings case ID, Models.com client ID, Race time, IAT diver ID, IAT weightlifter ID, IAT triathlete ID, FIS snowboarder ID, FIS Nordic combined skier ID, FIS ski jumper ID, FIS freestyle skier ID, FIS cross-country skier ID, FIS alpine skier ID, D-U-N-S, source of income, budget, BNE journal ID, JudoInside.com ID, ISO 4063 process number, blue-style.com ID, Wrestlingdata person id, Danish protected area ID, Skyscraper Center building complex ID, Research Papers in Economics Series handle, NUTTAB Food Identifier, AUSNUT Food Identifier, CNC film rating, EIRIN film rating, exploitation visa number, production date, Dictionary of Canadian Biography ID, New Zealand Organisms Register ID, Roller Coaster Database ID, Photographers' Identities Catalog ID, PRONOM software identifier, PRONOM file format identifier, Filmiroda rating
- Newest WikiProjects: Olympics
- Query examples: songs with longest melody (source), subjects with most art dedicated to them (source), versions of The Scream (source)
- Development
- There will be some maintenance on the query service in a few hours
- Redesigned the rank selector as well as snak type selector icons (phab:T129033#2217402, gerrit:283968)
- The snak type selector icon also has a tooltip now (gerrit:283945)
- The term table header row as well as language column will now be marked as
<th>
instead of<td>
(gerrit:283395) - Fixed an issue with newline characters in quantity values (phab:T110728)
- Fixed the month-precision time parser ignoring the minus in "January -150" (phab:T132441)
- Continued working on diffing and patching support for new entity types (phab:T132442)
- Continued working on support for creating entities of new types as part of the work for Wikimedia Commons support (phab:T132964)
- Rolled out a little query explanation field to query.wikidata.org to help you better understand a query if you don't understand SPARQL well
- Fixed a bug where the map wouldn't show in the visualization of a query result (phabricator:T132669)
- Fixed issues with the duplicate references gadget (phabricator:T131920)
- Added basic support for more languages to the query service (phabricator:T132756)
- Monthly Tasks
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
- Contribute to a Showcase item
- Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
Thanks for your edit to Evening; Red Tree
Hi Mduvekot, I just thanked User:Sudowoodoo for their edit to this article that I just merged into the one I had already created under the name Evening; Red Tree. I now see that it was in fact your edit! Sorry about that. Please feel free to adjust the article and I am perfectly willing to bow out of any points if you are interested in claiming points for this article in the Europeana Art Challenge! Thanks in any case for your edits. Jane (talk) 08:26, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Jane023: Good luck with the challenge. Enjoy your points. Mduvekot (talk) 12:02, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
- That's funny, the points are now up for grabs. Soon we will have a policy no doubt for edit conflicts in writing challenges. Meanwhile, Happy editing! Jane (talk) 10:57, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
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Comment
That's fine man I was trying to undo that but I kept getting that someone else was editing that part so it must have been you :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:3C4:4300:5F8F:F8AA:B41B:31AB:A735 (talk) 01:18, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #207
- Discussions
- Events/Blogs/Press
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Commons now has arbitrary access
- Work on ORES to make vandalism fighting easier is progressing well. "Damaging" and "goodfaith" models for Wikidata are now online.
- Wikimind
- New coverage maps have been created (see thumbnails)
- We have new images you can use to indicate your website/app/service is using data from Wikidata. (2 of the files have a problem still. We're working on a fix and will reupload.)
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: Loop ID, sound power, 3DMet ID, locality or place, Index Hepaticarum ID, clearance, ASF KID Cave Tag Number, power consumed, net tonnage, connects with, Czech neighbourhood ID code, longest span, aerodrome reference point, Mercalli intensity scale
- Category reports on without claims by site now link to PetScan's fast "has no statements"-option. A report for your preferred Wikipedia can be added.
- Query examples: software with most versions (source), oldest software (source), map of U1 stations in Berlin (source)
- Development
- Created the first MediaInfo entity through the API (screenshot, a bit more background)
- Substantially reduced server load for item and property displaying (phab:T132662)
- There are currently some issues with the order of latitude/longitude inn coordinates in the query service map visualization. It will be fixed tonight.
- Removed unsupported
sort
anddir
parameters from thewikibase.api.RepoApi
JavaScript module. This may break user JavaScript callinggetEntitiesByPage
(phab:T119856). - Worked on new flyers for institutions that want to cooperate with Wikidata and developers wanting to use our data (will be published on Commons once they're done)
- Moved forward with internationalization of the query service interface (not on translatewiki.net yet but being worked on)
- Worked on making it possible to extend SPARQL queries in simplified natural language version. It will also no longer add query prefixes when editing the query. Those are not live yet.
- Fixed a bug where admins got a blank page when trying to view deleted revisions (phabricator:T132645)
- Investigating issues with bad suggestions for properties when adding new statements (phabricator:T132839)
- Monthly Tasks
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
- Contribute to a Showcase item
- Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
Hi
Hi there -- Sjschen (talk) 21:42, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Nate Garner
Hi, sorry I'm new to Wikipedia as so I'm not quite sure how to add references. Please could you explain in simple terms how I can do this. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twerking4nate (talk • contribs) 18:56, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Twerking4nate: Depending on whether you use the Visual Editor, or if you edit using wikitext, you can refer to either the Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor/1 or Help:Introduction_to_referencing_with_Wiki_Markup/1. Mduvekot (talk) 19:06, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- I have attempted to add references. Please may you check my page. You may edit it if things are in the wrong place. Please may you then do what even you have to do to withdraw the deletion request. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twerking4nate (talk • contribs) 19:12, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- Did you read the part about Reliable Sources? You have added primary sources (his youtube and vine profiles), and one secondary source (famousbirthdays) is probably not acceptable either. Mduvekot (talk) 19:20, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- What about now? Are these references reliable and good enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twerking4nate (talk • contribs) 19:42, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- What you need is Reliable Sources. The Vanity Fair reference for is good. It would be nice if you made sure the reference is integrated in the body of the article text. Vanity fair confirms that he has many followers on instagram, and refers to the bullying, but also offers some critical opinion that isn't anywhere near as positive as what you've written so far. "22-minute humblebrag that’s meant to stop random Instagram commenters from pointing out this guy’s ceaseless vanity". You might want to represent that view in the article. Mduvekot (talk) 20:17, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- I have added something about the negative comments and integrated the reference into the body of the text. Does this now mean my page won't get deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twerking4nate (talk • contribs) 20:48, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- I originally proposed to delete the article because all biographies of living people (BLP) created after March 18, 2010 must have at least one reliable source that supports a statement about the subject. With the VF ref, that requirement has now been met. Mduvekot (talk) 21:17, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- What you need is Reliable Sources. The Vanity Fair reference for is good. It would be nice if you made sure the reference is integrated in the body of the article text. Vanity fair confirms that he has many followers on instagram, and refers to the bullying, but also offers some critical opinion that isn't anywhere near as positive as what you've written so far. "22-minute humblebrag that’s meant to stop random Instagram commenters from pointing out this guy’s ceaseless vanity". You might want to represent that view in the article. Mduvekot (talk) 20:17, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
- What about now? Are these references reliable and good enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twerking4nate (talk • contribs) 19:42, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks so much for all the help and advice you have given me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Twerking4nate (talk • contribs) 01:31, 8 May 2016 (UTC)