User talk:W.L.Maher
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Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (November 22)
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Hello, W.L.Maher!
Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! David.moreno72 08:32, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
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Instructions to use Wikipedia
[edit]I want help with the beginning of the editing education and using the sandbox to reach the required ten edits to become a valid editor. I don't know which is the more appropriate page, The Tearoom or the Sandbox. I know they serve different purposes but I am trying to find the correct procedures to advance my understanding of Wikipedia. W.L.Maher (talk) 21:58, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- One thing that may help is thinking of different pages as different rooms. Articles are front end displays, article talk pages are backstage areas where the work is done, and user talk pages are like offices. Posting on one's own talk page is kind of like in one's office alone, talking to oneself (I was looking over your contributions, which is the only reason I saw your post here).
- The tearoom can be thought of as a reception desk, for helping one get oriented.
- A user's sandbox is there for that user to test a variety of edits, not pump up their edit count to "qualify" for new features. You do not need 10 edits to become a valid editor, you do not even need an account to become a valid editor. The "10 edits" myth is a complete misunderstanding of how page protection works. There's are levels of protection that prevent editing by users that have been around less than so many days and have less than so many edits. This is not for all pages but specific articles. All editors can still make edit requests on an article's talk page.
- The sandbox can be used as a place to draft articles. The reason your sandbox was "rejected" was because you requested that it be reviewed as an article.
- If you're going to write an article about anyone or anything, here are the steps you should follow:
- 1) Choose a topic whose notability is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources.
- 2) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find. Google Books is a good resource for this. Also, while search engine resutls are tnot sources, they are where you can find sources. Just remember that they need to be professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources.
- 3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.
- 4) Summarize those sources left after step 3, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer. Make sure this summary is just bare statement of facts, phrased in a way that even someone who hates the subject can agree with.
- 5) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.
- 6) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.
- 7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.
- 8) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 3 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).
- Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:20, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- Also, before you try writing articles, you may want to try WP:The Wikipedia Adventure (a tutorial) and you should edit articles for a bit. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:21, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
Getting to ten
[edit]Find articles you have knowledge about. Make improvements (could be as simple as grammar or punctuation). Once past four days and ten edits, you can draft an article and put it into mainspace, i.e., a Wikipedia article. Don't do that!. First time attempts are so rife with errors that the best path i to submit to Articles for Creation. Within a month or less an experienced editor will review and either accept or deny. Likely the latter. Learn about your first article... David notMD (talk) 23:05, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hello, W.L.Maher. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, User:W.L.Maher/sandbox.
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:26, 24 May 2019 (UTC)