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July 2013

WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - July 2013

Issue XXXII	Project Eurovision monthly				Click image below to read full edition
At the time of publication the project statistics were as follows
Total Number of Members	Active Members	Inactive Members	Total Number of Articles	Number of Good Articles	Number of Featured Articles	Require Improvements
71	48	23	4843	16	2	1413
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Eurovision 2014

Oh come on! That was my "wishlist" for Eurovision 2014!! Seriously, I just wanted Sinéad Mulvey to represent Ireland again, and Iris to return for Belgium, and Natália Kelly to represent Austria for the second year!!! Red Plastic 12000 (talk) 14:19, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Firstly please do not create box-like posts to here using images that are copyright protected. That is a serious violation of WP:COPYVIO and is subject to account blocks. Secondly, even if those artists are you wishlist, we cannot include them whatsoever. We are an encyclopaedia that provides encyclopaedic material which can be verified with reliable sources. We are NOT a wishful thinking website. Wesley ☮ Mouse 17:43, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Merging Country in ABU TV Song Festival 2012/2013 to Country in ABU TV Song Festival ?

Since we don't have enough information on the preselection process of any country or any result in any edition of ABU TV Song Festival since it's non-competitive, I think we should only make articles for Country in ABU TV Song Festival instead (which also lacks information and sources) and redirect Country in ABU TV Song Festival 2012/2013 to subsections of the article. Josh (talk) 15:08, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Or even merge Country in ABU TV Song Festival and Country in ABU Radio Song Festival into one Country in ABU Song Festivals? Josh (talk) 15:12, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Hmm doing specific annual ones could pose an obstacle at this early stage of the festivals. Merging the two into 'Country' in the ABU Song Festivals may be an awkward one to deal with, especially when it comes to adding participation tables. So based on that I'd be inclined to say have 'Country' in the ABU TV Song Festival and 'Country' in the ABU Radio Song Festival may be a better option. Wesley ☮ Mouse 16:25, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Heraldry and Vexillology project

Greetings! I have requested commentary from members of the heraldry and vexillology project at WT:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology#Current direction of the HV project. Please comment there. Thank you! Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 18:35, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

August 2013

August ESC newsletter

I've edited the Newsletter! Please check for British English. Also, I'm sure it could use a lot more information hahaha. I was thinking that, even if we can't do something special for the August issue, we could do something for the September one because it's the project's tenth anniversary! Mr. Gerbear|Talk 05:37, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - August 2013

Issue XXXIII	Project Eurovision monthly				Click image below to read full edition
At the time of publication the project statistics were as follows
Total Number of Members	Active Members	Inactive Members	Total Number of Articles	Number of Good Articles	Number of Featured Articles	Require Improvements
74	51	23	4850	16	4	2077
3	3		7		2	664
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Question

Do you know when Cooper will be back? TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

That's like asking how long is a piece of string? Cooper will be back whenever he decides to come back, I cannot foresee or force him to come back any sooner. Patience is a virtue. Wesley ☮ Mouse 01:23, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

September 2013

On B&W Hallerne

Hi Wesley, I'm sorry about my hastiness, I was eager to solve the problem of a defunct company appearing as the venue-of-sorts of the 2014 contest. The truth is I would have created the article from the very beginning without asking for any help if I felt just a little more confident. Hopefully I will learn the lesson for the future. I will later leave my impression on your proposal. Best regards, Xelaxa (talk) 14:24, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Not to worry, and for your first article it looks good too. My only concern was the factor of many official sources all giving the venue a different name, and I personally felt that it would have been logical to establish what the actual venue name is, so that we can minimise the risk of technical page moves, which require administration help. But after some thought it doesn't really matter how often an article name changes. The EBU alone have referred to the venue by several names already, including B&W Hallerne, B&W Hallerna, B&W Halls, B&W Ballroom, and Eurovision Island. The venue's name in Danish would be B&W Hallerne, and as this is English wikipedia then I would have assumed its English equivalent (B&W Hall) should have been used. But I'm sure we can address this matter once more details are announced by the contest organisers. It may be worthwhile though to mention something in the article about Eurovision Island though, it would make a quirky addition. Wesley ☮ Mouse 15:05, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your understanding. I definitely agree that Eurovision Island should be mentioned in the article, that was a good addition. I've posted a comment on Talk:B&W Hallerne. Xelaxa (talk) 18:40, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

ASTF13 Update

Hey, I don't know how to edit the map for participating countries, Brunei just confirmed their entry song, can you edit the map? Thank you. Josh (talk) 12:58, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

 Done Wesley ☮ Mouse 13:58, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

well i meant the participation map... Josh (talk) 16:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

never mind, sorry. and thank you :D Josh (talk) 16:47, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I did do the participation map. Brunei is very small on the map so you won't notice it. Wesley ☮ Mouse 01:58, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

you may want to edit the entire map now. Not sure about the case of Japan, only the artist is confirmed, every other countries have confirmed their entries. Josh (talk) 07:51, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

I shall update the participation map and upload the new version. I've also removed the rowspan on Vietnam for now, as the running order should be known soon. Also I have created country articles such as Brunei in the ABU TV Song Festival which will need updating with the entry details. Wesley ☮ Mouse 12:15, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

alright, I've read the new articles earlier and nothing seems to be missing. And by the way, ABU is messing up, Afghan entrant is entirely Persian (right!?) and ABU left out the original title on their page, they also messed up Van Mai Huong's song, which is called "La em do" instead of "La anh do" but I don't know if I should just edit it because I can't provide any source besides audio links. And therefore I don't think we should add the languages to the songs just yet judging on the titles alone. Josh (talk) 13:34, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

For the time being we've only got what ESCKaz are citing so we cannot alter much in terms of song titles. But I doubt it would be too long before the ABU TV Song Festival offical website, ABU's website, or even Eurovoix, will soon update any errors in song titles/artists names/song languages. So until then, there's not much else we can do apart from sit and wait. Wesley ☮ Mouse 16:36, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

File:ABU TV Song Festival 2013.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:ABU TV Song Festival 2013.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Wesley ☮ Mouse 16:54, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - September 2013

Issue XXXIV	Project Eurovision monthly				Click image below to read full edition
At the time of publication the project statistics were as follows
Total Number of Members	Active Members	Inactive Members	Total Number of Articles	Number of Good Articles	Number of Featured Articles	Require Improvements
74	51	23	4883	16	4	2076
			23			1
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Re: Project ESC Newsletter

Hey, Wesley. I was meaning to message you earlier about this but now that I'm here, I just wanted to let you know that I'm not going to be able to continue with the Project's monthly newsletter. I've just gotten so busy with school and work that I don't think I can have enough time to be helpful enough here on Wikipedia. I'm extremely sorry, and I hope you understand. Mr. Gerbear|Talk 23:36, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Not to worry, I sincerely understand. Real life is more important than cyber-life. Thank you though for all the hard work that you have done for the newsletter, and if you feel like returning in the future, then you are very welcome to do so. Wesley ☮ Mouse 23:42, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi

I hope everything is fine with you? So many confirmations etc right now for ESC 2014, I was disappointed about Morocco I hope they will return one day. It will be interesting to see if Denmark can top Swedens great hosting of ESC 2013. My article on Meral Tasbas will appear later today in the DYK section with image and all :). Hope to hear from you soon.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:15, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Babba, yup I'm doing fine at the moment. So much happening in my life right now, that I'm struggling to keep up with it all myself LOL. Indeed it is disappointing about Morocco, although the news report is promising that they are planning a comeback in the future. Perhaps the EBU talks may make them reconsider 2014? I've got my first training session for my volunteering role at 2014 Commonwealth Games in Glasgow, Scotland this Saturday, and I'm starting to get nervous about that. I'll keep an eye out for your DYK section too. I'm getting concerned over the current discussion at Talk:ESC2014 over the wording of some sources, which a few I agree should be added to "most likely", but some are blatantly obvious that a country will be present, for example Lithuania who's source states they won't be withdrawing. So if they are not withdrawing, then what else will they be doing apart from being present. But alas, I shall go with the majority on this one. Wesley ☮ Mouse 15:24, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

If you want to you can review my DYK nomination for Hildegard Björck. You find it at the article talk page. And approve it if you find it sufficient. You going to have to do that anyway sooner or later when dealing with DYKs as you have to review another DYK to have your own DYK approved for reviewed. --BabbaQ (talk) 14:17, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Oh my days! I read your request, and thought to myself "sure I can do this". Started to read the review process so I knew what I was doing. And my gosh, why can it not be written in plain English? The step-by-step guide isn't helpful and has confused the hell out of me - either that, or the fact I'm full of a cold is effecting my ability to concentrate properly. Any tips on how to review would be grateful. Wesley Mᴥuse 15:01, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I hope you get well soon. Yes, to put it in simple terms, you need to check the spelling and overall prose of the article. You need to check the length of the article and the references so they match the hook that is suggested. I agree the guides overall here on Wikipedia is like reading a manual in japanese. :)--BabbaQ (talk) 14:28, 26 September 2013 (UTC)