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Eastern Sudanic
[edit]Hi Wojak6! First of all thank you for your ongoing project to harmonize the information about the classification of African languages, this is much needed and very welcome. I wanted to ask you about your opinion about a small but significant thing: in all infoboxes for articles about language families and languages that are assigned to the proposed "Eastern Sudanic", "Nilo-Saharan" has a question mark, whereas "Easern Sudanic" has not. At the current state of research, "Eastern Sudanic" is disputed: Hammaströn and Güldemann consider it unproven, Dimmendaal considers an established genetic unit. Personally, I would add a question mark those in all pages; what do you thnik? –Austronesier (talk) 11:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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Classifications
[edit]Hi,
You're adding debunked classifications to languages, like "Atlantic", and removing ones that are supported by specialists, like Niger-Congo. Also adding hypothetical groups like Volta-Congo to individual languages where such debates aren't relevant. Especially doing this piecemeal is not helpful. Also, some of your edits disrupt the formatting of our articles. Please review before you save. — kwami (talk) 03:33, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
E.g., people like Hammarstrom reject Niger-Congo because Mande does not share the noun-class system of most of the rest of the family. However, people who actually work on reconstructing Mande, such as Vydrin, believe the evidence is there, but that Mande split off before Atlantic-Congo developed its noun-class system. Anyway, while I don't have a problem with removing NC from the top of the tree and leaving the classification simply as "Mande", with the debate to be hashed out in the Mande article, the NC color code should not be removed to suggest that Bambara or Vai is an unclassified language. The color is not a cladistic claim -- we have a color for Khoisan, though no-one believes it's a family, and similarly Papuan, Australian, Altaic, Caucasian, Amerindian, etc., each of which have a characteristic color that is useful in quickly scanning articles. — kwami (talk) 03:38, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Another possibility is to do what we do with Nilo-Saharan, and have the NC color generate 'NC' with a question mark. (Not even Vydrin claims that NC has been demonstrated.) But question marks are annoying to readers, and having every Bantu language with a question mark at the top of the tree might not be well received. You're probably right that neither the Mande nor the Atlantic-Congo languages should have NC at the top of the tree (without Mande, there is no Niger-Congo), but we could commission a bot to change all 1500+ language articles so they're consistent. — kwami (talk) 01:44, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
Balendru people moved to draftspace
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Wikipedia and copyright
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Thank you. I'll try to post it again using my own words and quotation marks. Wojak6 (talk) 12:50, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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breaking infobox
[edit]Hi. When you add '?' after the family color in a language info box, you break the template. If you want to add a '?' after the family, you can add it under 'fam1='. See e.g. at Mande languages. The NC color should remain, even though Mande has not been shown to be related to Atlantic-Congo, as it's useful for orientation, as w the Nilo-Saharan, Khoisan, Papuan, American, Australian etc. color codes. (Also, I don't understand why Bantu languages would be questionable. They're the foundation of the classification.) — kwami (talk) 08:56, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
I've reverted a bunch more of your edits for breaking the infobox. Please stop. — kwami (talk) 17:20, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
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Your draft article, Draft:Balendru people
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July 2021
[edit] Hello, I'm Landroving Linguist. I noticed that you recently removed content from Nilotic peoples without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. LandLing 19:17, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
July 2021: Please leave more cogent edit summaries
[edit]I just hand-counted the edit summaries you have left with your over 1700 edits to Wikipedia. I found 104 of them. In general, it is considered good practice to always leave an edit summary, so as to save other editors the time and effort of trying to understand why the edit was made. Wikipedia is a collaborative, volunteer project; while subject-matter experts are appreciated, they aren't given carte-blanche to make unexplained edits. Thank you.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:14, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
- I am sorry that you have not taken Quisqualis's comment to heart. I have come across plenty of recent edits in you have made in DRC-related ethnicity articles. I am not an expert, but given your failure to cite sources and total lack of any edit summaries it is becoming rather difficult to assume good faith.—Brigade Piron (talk) 19:13, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
Please make constructive edits to articles and leave summary with logical rationales as to why you edit articles.
[edit]Hey Wojak6,
I do appreciate the edits you make to Wikipedia, but most of your edits appear fraudulent. I notice you mostly edit Bantu languages and Niger-Congo languages and various African tribes that speak those languages. A majority of your edits lack a summary of clear and logical rationales for making such changes. In some of the articles you have edited, you claim that certain information is wrong, but you never give rationales as to why it is wrong. You also never provide citations for a majority of the changes that you make on most articles. You simply never make any improvements to articles rather than removing some information from articles or even blanking sections of articles which is not acceptable. While you may have some general knowledge of Bantu and Niger-Congo languages, you clear lack knowledge of the tribes that speak those languages, and as a result some edits you make on some tribes are very misplaced or simply wrong. You seem to assume that speakers of the Bantu languages and Niger-Congo languages have an homogenous history thus you end up making unnecessary edits on most articles about various African tribes. While some African tribes are grouped as Bantu/Niger-Congo, they do have their own distinct histories which you clearly have no knowledge of. You cannot not make proper edits on something you don't know or understand. Therefore, it is inappropriate to claim that something is wrong when you can't justify why you think it is wrong. If you don't know why something is wrong, then you simply don't know what you are doing on the specific articles you edit and should just leave those articles alone. There are other editors with more knowledge and experience of some articles than you have that will take care of such articles. If you can't provide a summary with a rationale for your edits, then just leave the articles alone. Please stop intentionally vandalizing articles. If you criticize an article, provide a solution and not just claiming that something is wrong and deleting it or blanking article sections and even removing cited information from articles which is clear vandalism. Wikipedia is all about information with reliable references which can be verified and not whether information is correct or wrong. If you think information is wrong, then provide your correct information with reliable references for verification. Otherwise leave articles alone. For instance, the edits you make to the "Kisii People" article were totally wrong and misplaced. You simply vandalized the article by blanking sections and removing other information without providing a clear rationale for your unnecessary changes. You never made any improvements to the article, but removed referenced information claiming that it is wrong and not providing rationale as to why they are wrong. This indicates that you lack knowledge of the Kisii people other than the simple general knowledge you have that they are Bantu speakers which is not enough and as a result of that you ended up vandalizing the article which I have fixed. You have also done such destructive edits to other articles especially those on Bantu languages and Niger-Congo languages. Editing articles is not mandatory and so you don't have to edit if you have nothing to add to the articles. Please leave the articles alone unless you have good improvements to make to the articles. In future edits, if you can't provide a clear rationale for making changes, simply don't edit. Constructive edits are needed please and stop vandalizing articles.
Nyanza Cushitic (talk) 01:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Please stop Vandalizing Kisii people article
[edit]Hey Wojak6
Please refrain from editing the Kisii people Article as you have already done enough Vandalism to it. That article has gone through quite a lot of improvements to where it is now. The article is already moderated by someone more familiar with the Kisii people and Kenya as a country. Your edits are not needed on the article. You just came out of the blues and started editing an article which you have not edited before. The article only needs constructive additions and not deletions and blanking which you have repeatedly done now. There is no information on the article that is wrong as you seem to put it. The article is adequately sourced and comprehensively discusses the Kisii people as a tribe and not the Bantu languages. Bantu is not an ethnicity but a linguistic groups. comments like "more conjecture. the Abagusii found themselves surrounded by invading luo, nandi maasai etc that and where surrounded by them on most sides. the proto Gussi did have contact with other bantus but simply branched off and migrated to their location." are simply misplaced and don't justify deletion of content. You seem to equate Bantu to an ethnicity which is rather inaccurate and the thousands of distinct African tribes grouped together in 1950s never branched from each other as you put. "ekegusii does belong to the bantu group. it has been proven by linguists. your claims are baseless conjecture" this assertion does not justify deletion of an entire section and nowhere in the article does it state that Ekegusii is not a Bantu language unless you don't understand English. You simply have not provided adequate explanations for blanking sections and deleting content from Wikipedia hence you have vandalized the article. Wikipedia is not a platform to express your insecurities and to show lack of knowledge. You have already received a lot of warnings from other editors regarding your destructive edits on Wikipedia articles. Please Keep away from the Kisii people article as you are not needed there unless you are adding something and not deleting content.
Nyanza Cushitic (talk) 19:46, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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September 2021
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Kisii people. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
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October 2021
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Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Great Lakes Bantu languages. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. In particular, this edit summary was neither civil nor constructive. i suggest you start engaging--constructively--in discussion at the articles' talk pages about changes you wish to make, especially if they are reverted by other editors. —C.Fred (talk) 20:08, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
ANI Notice
[edit]There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Nyanza Cushitic (talk) 04:19, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Rude Edit Summaries
[edit]Besides your ignoring of the ANI discussion, you are continuing to use rude edit summaries or none at all. These are not conducive to the collaborative nature of Wikipedia and are likely to get you in trouble. I would suggest changing your ways and also addressing the concerns raised at WP:ANI Slywriter (talk) 22:52, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
October 2021
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Copyright Issues and other issues.
[edit]Hello Wojak6,
Your additions to the Kisii people article have been removed as they have copyright issues. Your additions were copied and pasted from the sources that you provided. The sources you provided on the article are unreliable and refer to the Kisii people talk page for more information. Some of the sources provided also have copyright issues and also refer to the article talk page. The content you added to the article is also out-of-topic and you have continued adding it despite the content being removed. Please refer to the talk page for more information on why your additions were removed. Address your concerns on that talk page rather than continuously adding the content despite being removed. Your edits on the article have not been productive at all. All you have done is removal critical information from some sections of the article where it is unnecessary and also adding out of topic content in some sections. In short you have not really improved the article at all and the same applies to most other articles that you edit. Please improve articles. Removal/addition of content unnecessarily is not improving of articles.
For most of your edits there is lack of edit summaries to explain your edits. You mostly add content or removing content from articles without providing explanations for doing so. When you leave any summaries, they are generally not good summaries. Summaries such as "posted 2 valid sources on this. cant delete it due to your own bias." from the Kisii people article is not a good summary. Your summaries generally have negative language and are not good summaries. Please leave good edit summaries for your edits in all articles. Your removal or addition of content in some articles is really unnecessary. The language used in some of your summaries appear as though you are in a competition or fight with an earlier editor depending on the article given that you edit several Wikipedia articles. the summary quoted above is an example of such summaries.
On the basis of the feedback from other editors on your talk page as well as you contributions, you have not been productive at editing the articles on the Niger-Congo languages and other related topics that you mostly edit. Perhaps you should consider changing the current topic area of editing to another topic area where you may be more comfortable editing.
Please pay attention to the feedback from other editors on your talk page! Also address the issues raised on the your talk page by other editors. Thank you!
Nyanza Cushitic (talk) 01:49, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
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May 2022
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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Hema people, you may be blocked from editing. I have reverted your recent edits to their article. In particular, you were a participant in an earlier discussion about the Nilotic/Bantu issue and know that your view does not have consensus. Do not try to force through edits again in future, please. —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:29, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Lango people, you may be blocked from editing. Dl2000 (talk) 20:18, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
Hema people
[edit]Good evening, i was reading your discussion about the mislabeling of the hema people as nilotes, instead of Bantu. I'm very much interested in that topic, as my mother is from the northern hema (gegere) group. I was wondering if you have any scholarly papers, or books that you could recommend, that could help understand more about the topic. your help is truly appreciated 35.146.110.112 (talk) 14:27, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
Ways to improve Nyoro-Tooro languages
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Thank you for creating Nyoro-Tooro languages.
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Nyoro-Tooro languages moved to draftspace
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Wojak6 Please stop your vandalism on Luo Articles, Lango people or Lango language articles
[edit]You are not reading the main article on Lango people but you edit the few lines then you leave everything inconsistent. What is your motive on these articles? First and foremost Lango language is not a pure luo language. And there is no ethnic group called Lango among the Luo peoples. Editors are trying to bring these facts up. The Lango language is a hybrid of ateker languages (hamatic peoples) with dialects of luo. You seem to be building a new article within an article but with no much evidence. You should be reported to administratorNgunalik (talk) 19:30, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
Some pages to watch
[edit]Hi Wojak6! There is a crackpot IP adding weird stuff in articles about languages of Africa. E.g., this[1] has gone undetected for more than two weeks. I have just noticed the follow-up edit when following the trail of an IP obviously related to the same person. Just you in case you have time for patrolling... Austronesier (talk) 20:55, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
October 2022
[edit] Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Battle of Manzikert. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
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Please stop your disruptive editing.
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If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Turkification, you may be blocked from editing. Semsûrî (talk) 12:18, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
ANI
[edit] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Beshogur (talk) 10:28, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Edit warring
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Concern regarding Draft:Nyoro-Tooro languages
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Your draft article, Draft:Nyoro-Tooro languages
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