User talk:ZOHCLE

Hello, ZOHCLE, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I notice that one of the first articles you created appears to be an article about yourself. This is a common mistake made by new Wikipedians—as this is an encyclopedia, we wouldn't expect to have an article about every contributor. Your user page, however, is a great place to write about yourself. Just click your user name at the top of the screen when you are logged in, and edit it normally.

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December 2008

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Robert Chandler (network executive). Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Tiptoety ^talk 23:10, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppetry case

You have been accused of sockpuppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/ZOHCLE. Thank you. Alansohn (talk) 23:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you intend to have this posted here? I made a note in case that was your intention. Lazulilasher (talk) 23:25, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for violating the three-revert rule at Robert Chandler (network executive). Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Tiptoety ^talk 23:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

ZOHCLE (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

the people who're saying there's only one grandson are (a) fabricating information and (b) impossible to negotiate with. my constant editing is the only way to ensure the integrity and accuracy of the page.

Decline reason:

You have not got a single edit to a talk page attempting to discuss your edits, instead you have about 15 rvs in less than 24 hours, most with no real edit summary. Whether you're right or not is irrelevant, you were being disruptive. Be glad its only 24 hours, I would have given you longer— Jac16888 (talk) 23:47, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

ZOHCLE (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Doug Chandler (IP address: 71.125.252.52), his cousin ("LeighC8") and his cousin's husband ("vtmountains") are spreading false information. Doug is my father, yet he's repeatedly denied my existence. Privately, he acknowledges he's my father, but publicly? Hardly. He falsified the NY "Times" article (which he references) by providing an obit report that says there's only one grandson. In addition, he's (a) impossible to negotiate with, on or off Wiki, and (b) spread hurtful things in earlier edits he's made to the page (look at the page edit history). Thanks for your attention to this.

Decline reason:

None of this excuses your violation of policy or explains why you didn't take it to the talk page. — Smashville^talk 00:04, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Robert Chandler (network executive)

I created the Robert Chandler (network executive) article. I had never heard of him before and I'm not related to him. The material in the article is based on an obituary in The New York Times, which mentions one grandchild, without a name provided. I did not include the information, but the fact that he had a grandchild is backed by a reliable and verifiable source. If you would like to add details, you must be able to reference a reliable and verifiable source to support the claim, and I will be happy to put the source in the proper format. Without a source, the material will be removed and may be treated as vandalism. Alansohn (talk) 00:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Verifiable Source?

Thanks. Does a birth certificate count? Other than that, I've got nothing.

Also, Alansohn, both claimants are NOT claiming to be the grandson. One claimant (IP address: 71.125.252.52) IS my father, yet he's claiming that I'm not his father's grandson. I've been saying that I AM one of the grandsons. ZOHCLE (talk)

Some Admins Mistaken

The user at IP address 71.125.252.52 (Doug Chandler) and user "VTMountains" are two different people. VTMountains is the husband of Doug Chandler's cousin.

Doug Chandler himself is the one who called in to report the death of his father to the NY "Times." He was the only person who spoke to the "Times" reporter who wrote the story. I HAVE called the "Times" to issue a correction or an article update, but the reporter wants to speak with Doug Chandler first. ZOHCLE (talk)

An attempted compromise at Robert Chandler (network executive)

As discussed earlier, the one source that lists survivors, The New York Times, states that "In addition to his wife and his son Doug, Mr. Chandler is survived by another son, Larry; his brother, Martin; and one grandchild." There are no details about grandchildren, in terms of name or other details. I would like to suggest that we leave the description as two sons and a grandchild, until we can find reliable sources that can resolve the issue. Alansohn (talk) 16:56, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]