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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was archived by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 31 May 2020 [1].


Nominator(s): NatureBoyMD (talk) 21:40, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a Minor League Baseball team that played two seasons in Nashville, Tennessee, on a temporary basis. It was uprooted from Charlotte, North Carolina, in conjunction with Major League Baseball expansion and played in Nashville until a permanent home could be found. The team shared Herschel Greer Stadium with the Nashville Sounds. While not unheard of, it is rare to find two baseball teams sharing a home ballpark. NatureBoyMD (talk) 21:40, 24 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support by Usernameunique

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Image review

  • File:NashvilleXpressLogo.png: who is believed to be the copyright holder? Same with File:NashvilleXpressCapLogo.png. And given that we're including two non-free logos rather than just one I'd expect each to have a stronger FUR
    • Presumably BallCorps, LLC, the current owners of the Southern League franchise once known as the Xpress. I've added this to each image's source. Regarding two non-free images, I've added to the "purpose of use" on each image. For what it's worth, it is standard across baseball team articles to include both team and cap logos in the infobox. NatureBoyMD (talk) 21:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:1984_Nashville_Larry_Schmittou.jpg: can you confirm there's no copyright notice anywhere in the program, and that the image is original to the program?
  • File:NashvilleXpressJerseys.png: what is the source used to create this image? Nikkimaria (talk) 21:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Therapyisgood

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Resolved comments from Therapyisgood (talk) 03:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose
  • In conjunction with the 1993 Major League Baseball expansion, George Shinn, owner of the Double-A Southern League's Charlotte Knights baseball team, was granted an expansion franchise in the Triple-A International League why was he granted a franchise?
  • The asking price was believed to be $3.6 million believed by whom?
  • uprooted by the Colorado Rockies National League expansion team. I'm not sure I understand this, how can a MLB uproot a Triple-A team?
    • Similar to how the Double-A Charlotte team had to leave upon the arrival of the Triple-A team, the Triple-A Denver team had to leave when the MLB Rockies moved into the Denver territory. NatureBoyMD (talk) 16:00, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The game was attended by just 1,715 people on a bitterly cold evening just is WP:EDITORIALIZING, I think "bitterly cold evening" is inappropriate too unless it's a quote from somewhere.
  • The Southern League's 142-game season was split into two halves wherein the winners of each half from each of two divisions confusing
  • Múñoz, who did not play in the game after having pitched six innings the night before, led the Southern League with 11 wins and 118 strikeouts.[23] Becker possessed a .280 batting average with 10 home runs and 42 runs batted in (RBI); he struck out in his only at bat off the bench. I think you could combine these two sentences with the conjunction "while"
  • The Xpress lost three key pieces violates NPOV, if someone described the pieces as "key" you can quote that but as it stands it's a POV violation.
  • These subtractions as well as late-season injuries to shortstop Denny Hocking, outfielders Marty Cordova and Mike McDonald, and others, caused Nashville to struggle in the second half according to whom? OR
  • The team had a new owner, but still lacked a city and stadium of its own not sure this sentence is necessary
  • Their final home game was played on September 1 against the Huntsville Stars. With Nashville holding a 1–0 lead going into the eighth inning, Huntsville scored three runs in both the eighth and ninth innings on the way to a 6–2 defeat of the home team. think you could combine these sentences
  • After playing 282 regular season games and compiling an all-time record of 146–136, the franchise's time in Nashville had come to an end. → "After playing 282 regular season games and compiling an all-time record of 146–136, the franchise left Nashville."
  • Schmittou was similarly unwilling to have the team back for yet another season as hosting the team at Greer was too big of a financial risk. "yet" is POV, "similarly" is WP:SYNTH, "too big of a financial risk" is POV
    • Changed to "Schmittou was unwilling to have the team back for another season as hosting the team at Greer was too big of a financial risk." "[T]oo big of a financial risk" is from the reference ([2]). NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:20, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Can you explain why this was a too big of a financial risk? I read the source but still don't understand. Therapyisgood (talk) 00:44, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • I can't find anything that elaborates on the financial risk of hosting two teams. Going by the attendance analysis in the second two paragraphs of the "Ballpark" section, it stands to reason that Schmittou either didn't break even, or the profits were lower than he desired. With hosting two teams, his part-time staff (ushers, concessions workers, parking attendants, etc) worked twice as many games, and were thusly paid for twice as many games. His full-time staff (ticket sales, office staff) may very well have been paid extra for their extra work involving an extra team. In addition to employees, opening the ballpark nearly every day meant additional expenditures towards electricity, water, gas, etc. As to why Schmittou mentions Michael Jordan, who was expected to play for the Nashville Sounds in 1995, it seems like he wanted to put his full effort, and that of his staff, toward maximizing revenue from Jordan's presence. NatureBoyMD (talk) 14:25, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rather than choose a city within the league's Southeastern footprint, Bastien proposed a temporary move to Bayamón, Puerto Rico, some 1,700 miles (2,700 km) away from Nashville and 1,200 miles (1,900 km) miles from the circuit's nearest team in Orlando, Florida. I read the source, nowhere does it mention the distance from Nashville to Bayamón so you're doing some kind of WP:SYNTH.
  • the Minnesota Twins were not interested in continuing their working agreement with the Xpress, not what the source says, the source just says they cut ties
  • Eventually, the only major league club left without a Double-A affiliate was the Seattle Mariners, this needs a reference, because just a reference ago I read the Detroit Tigers also didn't have a Double-A affiliate and you don't source the Tigers signing anyone
  • who refused to affiliate with the Xpress over the excessive travel costs again not what the source says, the source doesn't say why the Mariners didn't sign them, the article writer just speculates it's over travel costs
  • The cap looks like a lighter shade of red than on the graphic, is that the right shade?

Whole article's tone is unencyclopedic. Opposing. Therapyisgood (talk) 02:41, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Therapyisgood: Thanks, I have responded to all of your comments. NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:20, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • and the largest metro area population. I'm thinking this might be hyphenated but I'm not sure.
  • Bastien proposed a temporary move to Bayamón, Puerto Rico. I read the source and nowhere does it mention "temporary"

I believe I performed a "source check" above but I'd encourage another one. Therapyisgood (talk) 03:08, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Coord note

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Sorry but this has been open well over a month and dormant for several weeks so I'm going to archive it. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.