Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Case Closed episodes (season 1)/archive2
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was not promoted by Matthewedwards 01:42, 10 May 2009 [1].
- Nominator(s): DragonZero (talk)
- Featured list candidates/List of Case Closed episodes (season 1)/archive1
- Featured list candidates/List of Case Closed episodes (season 1)/archive2
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I am nominating this for featured list, again, to see if it is the best it can be as I will be using it as a base to split the other animated seasons of the series as well. I'll be able to fix problems addressed to try and promote the article. The summary length have been expanded to try and keep the size constant. DragonZero (talk) 23:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments from User:NocturneNoir
Resolved comments from NocturneNoir
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The large amount of errors I found in the lead alone make me worried. You may want to find a good copyeditor to clean through this list because I don't believe this can pass in its current state. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR talk // contribs 22:25, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I will add more comments later. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR talk // contribs 12:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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- The Japanese general reference covers the Japanese airdates, but the English airdates are completely unreferenced.
- Done.
- "They English adaption of season one was released in a" - The?
- Fixed, typo.
- "an English remixed of "Step by Step"" huh?
- Fixed
- You say all the other DVD's have five episodes. This one has six.
- Fixed
- Taking the above error into account and assuming (needs a ref so people can check) the other two DVDs have 5 each. 9+6+5+5=25. At the moment the last few sentences make it sound like it was only the box set that had the shorter 25 episodes. Did the individual release also not include certain episodes?
- Removed information.
- The box set is released by Funimation, and going by there numbering is the first 26 episodes. Try and make the sentence less ambiguous.
- Fixed
- I had a look on Amazon and the last 3 episodes are on the S2 DVD. This should be noted.
- Summaries need a copyeditor. I only looked at the first one and found:
- How can I find one?
- You might want to try asking at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors or at WP:ANIME. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 17:39, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- How can I find one?
- "uncovers a murderer" doesn't make sense
- Fixed
- "Shortly investigating the scene" after?
- Fixed
- "victim dumped her" - dumped is too colloquial
- Fixed
- "Episodes 11 and 12 were originally a single hour long episode but split into two parts in the English release." better wording required
- Fixed
- English general references should have number ranges seperated by an ndash.
- Fixed
- YTV (TV channel) in the references should be piped as [[YTV (TV channel)|YTV]]
- Fixed
- I don't think http://conan.aga-search.com/501-2-2-1996conantv.html is a reliable source. This page (at the bottom) says that "website is an unofficial fan site". This affects (a lot) the Japanese airdates and ref 3.
- Is there a way to prove it's reliability? I thought NihonJoe put up a good reason for it's reliability. It's not an official Conan fansite because the website is actually a fansite for detective themed media. DragonZero (talk) 23:28, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- This Signpost should tell you how to establish reliability. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 17:39, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Reliability proven. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga#Detective Conan reliable source, Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga/Online reliable sources.DragonZero (talk) 06:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm sorry that thread does not "prove reliability". Reliabilty is established by third-party publications, or proof of rigorous fact checking by the site. That Signpost piece will tell you everything you need to know about showing reliability. However, currently I have seen none of these valid arguments, and only someone saying they checked out some of the content and it was correct. Whilst we're one reliabilty ToonZone.net also needs to have it's reliabilty established. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 21:46, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Hmm, so to support the reliability of Aga-search, I would have to show a reliable source that prove that the information is correct?DragonZero (talk) 22:04, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- You can do one of the four things listed here.
- Show a page on the website about how they gather/check information
- Show that they are part of a bigger reputable media company – I'm pretty sure this isn't the case
- Show the author is a reputable member of the press – again I don't think this is likely
- Or, most likely, show a third party source (for example, a newspaper reviewing the site).
- You can do one of the four things listed here.
- Hmm, so to support the reliability of Aga-search, I would have to show a reliable source that prove that the information is correct?DragonZero (talk) 22:04, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm sorry that thread does not "prove reliability". Reliabilty is established by third-party publications, or proof of rigorous fact checking by the site. That Signpost piece will tell you everything you need to know about showing reliability. However, currently I have seen none of these valid arguments, and only someone saying they checked out some of the content and it was correct. Whilst we're one reliabilty ToonZone.net also needs to have it's reliabilty established. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 21:46, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Reliability proven. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga#Detective Conan reliable source, Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga/Online reliable sources.DragonZero (talk) 06:38, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- This Signpost should tell you how to establish reliability. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 17:39, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there a way to prove it's reliability? I thought NihonJoe put up a good reason for it's reliability. It's not an official Conan fansite because the website is actually a fansite for detective themed media. DragonZero (talk) 23:28, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Rambo's Revenge (talk) 22:07, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I think that the summaries are decent, but not particularily well-written. It would be a huge help if you could get a copyeditor to look over them. There are a lot of short (which I suppose is forgiveable since there you do need to try to keep the summaries short) and some awkwardly phrased sentences. For example, "Conan at school meets up with Amy Yeager, Mitch Tennison, and George Kaminski" doesn't read very well. "At school, Conan meets up with [...]" would be better. -- Scorpion0422 21:05, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Yeah I've been posting around to try and find a copyeditor. I'll go fix that sentence right now.DragonZero (talk) 22:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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