Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of DanceSport dances
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I nominated this a few months ago, but didn't get any response after a few days and thus pulled the nomination to reconsider and see if anything could be added. Since then, a few fixes have been made, but I can't think of anything else that would be worth including. Feel free to suggest something though. --Spangineeres (háblame) 04:23, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- Comments - Nice. Perhaps a footnote of two, to tie the information to the references? -- ALoan (Talk) 17:05, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't have them in there because each reference was associated with a specific organization (IDSF, USABDA, WD&DSC), but more clarity can't hurt. I'm not exactly sure how to best implement this—the way I have it now is that the first time each organization is mentioned in the table there's a footnote. It wouldn't be hard to put repeat footnotes in every column to make it especially explicit, but I'm not sure that's necessary. --Spangineeres (háblame) 18:13, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry - bit late now, but I meant to come back to 'support. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:55, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Well done, but at 13 links it is a little short. I guess that's not something you can fix. The number ranges should use an ndash. The introductory sentence is too long. Start with a simple sentence on what this is a list of. Then go on to introduce readers to what DanceSport is (brief summary) and give a sentence for each governing body. I'd don't think the change you made that changed the global references into specific references is a good one. Those refs cover more than just the tempo. I think the three refs should go back to being bullet-point global references. If you/ALoan feel the need to specify where each column's info comes from, then you should use footnotes in addition. Those notes would say something like "IDSF Competition Rules 2005 – page 13" or "WD&DSC Competition Rules. Section B", etc. Colin°Talk 12:51, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- Good call on the references—I'll take care of that shortly. I've fixed the ndash thing as well. Regarding the lead, however, are you suggesting an opening sentence in the form "This is a list of DanceSport dances"? That, in my opinion, is perfectly obvious from the title, and I hate redundancy. Also, is it necessary to define dancesport since its article is prominently linked? --Spangineeres (háblame) 15:52, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- Wrt lead sentence: something inbetween the two. The current sentence spans 4 lines on my monitor and therefore doesn't inspire the reader to persevere. I think the article should be mostly self-contained in that the reader doesn't have to follow the links to understand it. I'm afraid I'd never heard of DanceSport and initially thought there was a typo (no space). Following the links should only be necessary if I want to learn more.Colin°Talk 21:26, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- I've modified the lead; does it include enough definition? Are there any other issues you can see? --Spangineeres (háblame) 22:19, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- Wrt lead sentence: something inbetween the two. The current sentence spans 4 lines on my monitor and therefore doesn't inspire the reader to persevere. I think the article should be mostly self-contained in that the reader doesn't have to follow the links to understand it. I'm afraid I'd never heard of DanceSport and initially thought there was a typo (no space). Following the links should only be necessary if I want to learn more.Colin°Talk 21:26, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
- Good call on the references—I'll take care of that shortly. I've fixed the ndash thing as well. Regarding the lead, however, are you suggesting an opening sentence in the form "This is a list of DanceSport dances"? That, in my opinion, is perfectly obvious from the title, and I hate redundancy. Also, is it necessary to define dancesport since its article is prominently linked? --Spangineeres (háblame) 15:52, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
- Support – If there was a Wikipedia:Good lists category, similar to Wikipedia:Good articles, then I'd put it there due to short length. There isn't, and I can't find anything to fault this list. I've made a few edits. I think the external links aren't relevant to this list but should be included on the relevant articles. I suggest you create one for your red-link, even if it is a stub. Colin°Talk 09:02, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- Support. Agree with Colin's feelings. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 09:47, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Opposeprimarily because there is no prose in either "International style" or "America style." Some prose (i.e. what's the difference between "Smooth" and "Rythm") could fix the problems with the short list. Also, I believe, Notes and references should be merged into one section. Renata 00:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- I would say "click on the link to ballroom dance", but Wikipedia's coverage of ballroom dancing is rather pathetic, so I'll do some research and add some more info here. I don't have any good references at the moment that I can use, but I'll try to find something. As for the presentation of notes and references, there seems to be a fair amount of disagreement over this; I'm willing to do whatever. --Spangineeres (háblame) 01:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- What do you think now? --Spangineeres (háblame) 22:20, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- Support, good enough. Renata 02:52, 15 October 2006 (UTC)