Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of birds of New Brunswick/archive1
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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 2 May 2024 (UTC) [1].[reply]
List of birds of New Brunswick (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): B3251 (talk) 04:02, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First ever featured list nomination! I updated the list (additions/removals/tag changes) with current information, which can be found here (this is not a full list but rather an addendum update from 2023, so I also used the 2017 checklist to double check the tags). I also added photos, copyedited some of the families' descriptions, and added a description introducing the reader to New Brunswick and its geography. I took reference from the recently-promoted List of birds of Alberta and its nomination to make edits to the New Brunswick list, and reused a good amount of references to make sure each family description has citations here as well. Improving New Brunswick-related topics on Wikipedia has been my top priority since I began actively editing a year ago, and I'm more than happy to nominate this for featured list status. I do not have access to the book that the Alberta list nominator used for the family descriptions so I am more than happy to rewrite them if needed using alternate sources such as Birds of the World, which I have an institutional access to. B3251 (talk) 04:02, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
[edit]- Move Old World vulture link to first usage
- Suggest linking Old World flycatchers
- Passerine is inconsistently capitalised
- "The vireos are a group of small to medium-sized passerine birds mostly restricted to the New World," - link New World?
- "The thrushes are a group of passerine birds that occur mainly but not exclusively in the Old World" - same with Old World
- "The yellow-breasted chat is the [....] and are" - grammatical disagreement here
- Under Cardinals and allies there's no line break after the order and family
- That's all I got - awesome work!!! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:59, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Y @ChrisTheDude everything fixed, thank you for the comment! B3251 (talk) 02:39, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:08, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Grungaloo
[edit]Great to see this! I took the List of Birds of Alberta to FL and I'm glad to see other Canadian provinces getting the same treatment!
- Lead - Accidental vs Rare. I wouldn't use the word "rare" to describe accidentals since then it's hard to distinguish how it's different from rare. Try something like "a species that does not often occur...".
- which has disputed sovereignty between New Brunswick and Maine - The sovereignty dispute is between Canada and the USA technically, would reword this to state that but you can still say that each Province/State includes it in their territory.
- Gulls, terns, and skimmers - I left out any discussion of skimmers in the family description since none appear in Alberta, but for New Bruinswick I'd suggest adding a line describing them. If you'd like I can look at the reference book I used and add that in.
Everything else looks great! grungaloo (talk) 21:59, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I have made the adequate changes but if you could help out with the reference for skimmers it would be much appreciated. I have institution access to birdsoftheworld but not much was mentioned about skimmers aside from "skimmers use their highly specialized bills to snag their prey from the surface of calm water, often in gracefully coordinated bands." Thanks! B3251 (talk) 22:13, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, forgot to ping @Grungaloo B3251 (talk) 10:56, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- MPGuy2824
- "They typically feed on seeds and fruit plants and produce". Add a comma after "plants".
- "Their soft plumage is cryptically coloured". Probably worth linking "cryptically coloured" to camouflage.
- In Shearwaters and petrels: "long outer functional primary". Either a word is missing at the end, or a wikilink needs to be added.
- "The bill is also long, decurved in the case of the ibises" Add a wikilink to explain "decurved", or replace with "downwardly curved". -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Done @MPGuy2824 B3251 (talk) 18:11, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Support for prose. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 02:45, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Done @MPGuy2824 B3251 (talk) 18:11, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dylan620
[edit]Big fan of birds here. Always love seeing the cute little feathery critters whenever I'm out and about. I'll try to have an image review done within the next couple days :) Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 12:29, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Some comments:
- Images need alt text.
- File:Sharp-shinned Hawk (50958298391).jpg contains a watermark in the lower-left corner of the photo. Commons does have other images of the species available to choose from.
- Sourcing for each image is verified, though I did AGF on a dead Flickr link for an uploaded that has since been made unavailable on their site, whether by deletion or an adjustment in privacy settings.
- The encyclopedic value is where this set of images really shines; I see a lot of strikingly detailed photos of a wide range of fascinating specimens.
- Once alt text has been added (or a reasonable justification against doing so has been provided) and a new A. striatus image has been selected, I look forward to supporting this nomination. Great work overall. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 21:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Apologies for my late response, Done for the alt text and changing the image for A. striatus. Thank you, B3251 (talk) 16:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dylan620: (forgot to do this) B3251 (talk) 16:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, with the caveat that I made a few minor adjustments. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 19:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the adjustments made. I just recently thought of this and figured I'd ask here, but would it be worth adding the French names of each species in prose due to New Brunswick having an official bilingual status? B3251 (talk) 15:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Can't see why not. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 20:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the adjustments made. I just recently thought of this and figured I'd ask here, but would it be worth adding the French names of each species in prose due to New Brunswick having an official bilingual status? B3251 (talk) 15:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, with the caveat that I made a few minor adjustments. Dylan620 (he/him • talk • edits) 19:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Dylan620: (forgot to do this) B3251 (talk) 16:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Apologies for my late response, Done for the alt text and changing the image for A. striatus. Thank you, B3251 (talk) 16:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Image review by Z1720
[edit]- File:Poecile hudsonicus 7.jpg: the link to the image doesn't work, but the image was reviewed in 2010 as it was uploaded from Flickr. I am inclined to say that this upload message still stands.
- Suggest replacing the purple martin image as the angle and railing in the image makes it difficult to see the bird.
- File:Posing Razorbill (52058500088).jpg and File:Atlantic Puffin - Fratercula arctica, Machias Seal Island, New Brunswick.jpg: Per MOS:UPRIGHT, use upright instead of px in image sizing.
- Alt text is in all images.
- Captions are fine
Comments above. Z1720 (talk) 15:25, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Done any necessary changes, also changed the image of the boreal chickadee B3251 (talk) 15:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I keep forgetting to do this! Sorry! @Z1720: B3251 (talk) 15:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Concerns have been resolved so I support based on image review. Z1720 (talk) 21:13, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I keep forgetting to do this! Sorry! @Z1720: B3251 (talk) 15:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey man im josh
- Date formatting in a number of these references are inconsistent, consider adding the {{Use mdy dates|April 2024}} template to the top of the article under the short description
- Ref 1 – Remove the website parameter, this part is covered by the publisher
- Ref 1 – Add author and publish date
- Ref 5 – Please change this to list Tourism New Brunswick as the publisher instead of just the website
- Ref 6 – Use Bay of Fundy as the publisher instead of the website
- Ref 7 – Remove the website parameter, the publisher is listed and that's adequete
- Ref 10 – Wikilink American Ornithological Society
- Ref 14 and 24 – Wikilink Animal Diversity Web
- Ref 15 – No access date listed
- Ref 17 – No access date
- Ref 18 – Wikilink Cornell Lab of Ornithology
- Ref 19 – Wikilink Proceedings of the Royal Society of London
- Ref 21 – Remove the website parameter
- Ref 21 – I'm not seeing where you get the date of 7 November 2014 for this reference
- Ref 22 – Remove the website from this reference, covered by the publisher
- Ref 32 – Use (and wikilink) Encyclopædia Britannica as the publisher instead
- Ref 32 – Remove the website parameter, covered by the publisher
- Refs 25, 27, 29, 30, 31, 33, 35, 36, 37, and 39 – Add wikilink to Birds of the World
- A number of these are missing access dates, please review and add where possible
- Consider running WP:IABOT to add more archive links where possible
That's what I got in my initial review. Please ping me when the above issues have been addressed. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Hey man im josh: Done making the necessary changes, as well as a few other improvements. I appreciate the extensive ref review, I'm definitely going to take these tips into consideration in the future beyond FL candidacy! B3251 (talk) 18:39, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 20:25, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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