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The list was not promoted by Giants2008 10:01, 27 January 2014 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of currencies in North America

Nominator(s): Mat ty.007 08:34, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel that it is a complete list of North American currencies; I am attempting to create a similar page for every continent, I have done List of currencies in Europe previously. Mat ty.007 08:34, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Is it a list of currencies or a list of countries? It seems like you put countries first, and then currencies second. Would it not be better the other way since this is the focus of the page, and it would remove duplications. The way you have it, it appears like there are a lot more currencies than there actually are, "East Caribbean dollar" is repeated 6 times. Mattximus (talk) 00:16, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I based it on the original List of circulating currencies, and have done two (this and Europe), and am working on another, South America, in this format, which I think is both useful this way around, as it can be sorted by either country or currency, and it is the same as the original (List of circulating currencies), which I was using as precedent. Matty.007 13:23, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - Doesn't that seem backwards to you? Shouldn't it be a list of currencies, and under each you could list which countries they circulate? The title of the article is list of currencies after all. Mattximus (talk) 01:06, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - Well I think that it is easier to navigate, people can sort it by currency or country as they please. Mat ty.007 18:15, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Why is there a map of the Euro in this page? No North American countries use the Euro... Mattximus (talk) 00:18, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I used the most relevant picture I could find, which shows (in quite some detail) the usage of the US Dollar. Matty.007 13:23, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - There must be a better map. At the very least one that shows North America, and not the whole world. Mattximus (talk) 01:06, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    - I will look for one. Matty.007 18:15, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      - Another I found is this. Which do you think is better? Mat ty.007 19:19, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        Perhaps you should try making your own map with something like File:North America second level political division 2 and Greenland.svg that better fits your list, since none seem to exist. What you just linked to is a world map.--haha169 (talk) 00:15, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Due to a lack of a proper map. I also still believe that as a list of currencies, the list should be of currencies, not countries (with column for currencies) as this creates duplication making the reader think that there are more currencies in North America then there actually are. There are 17 currencies but this list is 23 rows. Mattximus (talk) 15:24, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the current image is not very illustrative of the N.A. topic. I'd like to raise the issue I mentioned on the Europe list again: Why do we need a list for every continent? I think this is quite redundant, and if you think the name of the central bank is important, it can be added to the main list. Reywas92^Talk 05:04, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- We have lists of many things per continent, but currency, a major part of life, only has one list. I will have a look for a picture. The country bank didn't seem to be an issue in the Europe review, hence it reaminsThanks, Matty.007 09:11, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - Mattximus: I'm not good with images, so have requested here a few days ago. Moreover, I wasn't sure what kind of map was needed. If you can tell me I'll have a go. Thanks, Mat ty.007 16:22, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My thoughts:
- The map, as has been said, is not suitable for this. It needs to focus on North America.
- The bank website is entirely unnecessary; that can be linked from the currency page.
- This lacks territories, which sometimes use different currencies than their possessing nations. Not always the case, but sometimes; for example, Bermuda uses the Bermudian dollar, and is not mentioned at all in this article. The intro notes sovereign states, but there's no reason nor expectation to confine it solely to those. The Bermudian dollar (e.g.) is a currency in use in North America and should not be excluded.
- "Current" in the header "Current North American currencies" is unnecessary, both because one assumes a list is current unless otherwise stated, and because the list also includes previous currencies.
- Special mention needs to be made in the prose about the multi-currency nations (Panama being the only true one here, though Cuba is also an unusual situation).
- I would propose that instead of the bank column, perhaps move the information on pegging to there.
- The intro is half devoted to the East Caribbean dollar, and half devoted to the U.S. dollar. Yet there are over a dozen other currencies used by roughly two hundred million people; either these two dollars are over-represented or the rest of the currencies are under-represented.
- Why is there a reference in the Country column for St. Vincent?
- Not entirely sure we need the 'previous currency' column but I'll wait to pass judgment on that one.
- Things seem a little over-referenced; in every row, the currency sign and fractional unit have the same source. If it's the same as the source that states the name of the currency, I don't think it's necessary; the reader can assume that the row is sourced to the source of the main info point (the currency) in the row.
- While I see the argument for listing currency first, I'm open to either way. It's a list of currencies in use, and currencies are only used by countries, and (generally) each country has its own currency. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing a draft of a version based on the currency rather than the country.
Based on these major issues I am forced to oppose at this point. --Golbez (talk) 16:43, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I think that given the amount of issues raised, I will need some time to work on them so would like to withdraw this while I work on the issues. Thanks, Mat ty.007 17:07, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:23, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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