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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:27, 14 August 2022 (UTC) [1].[reply]
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- Nominator(s): Morgan695 (talk) 20:35, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The Manga Taishō is one of several annually-awarded manga industry prizes recognizing critical achievement in manga. It is somewhat unique in its field in that is judged by a committee of "manga enthusiasts" – mostly bookstore employees – rather than the editors of a given publishing company. I have recently reorganized the list of nominees and winners into a sortable table and significantly expanded the lede, and believe it now meets FLC requirements. I welcome any comments that would improve the list further. Morgan695 (talk) 20:35, 24 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support from ChrisTheDude
[edit]- A Bride's Story should sort under B not A
- I think that's all I've got - great work!! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:25, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: Hi, thanks for your comment. I believe the three instances of A Bride's Story in the primary table are already using Template:Sort to alphabetize under B rather than A. Is there another instance I'm missing? Morgan695 (talk) 15:42, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Morgan695: - sorry, that seems to be a massive brain-fart on my part - it's actually "A Silent Voice" that erroneously sorts under A at the moment....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:47, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: Fixed. Morgan695 (talk) 15:50, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Morgan695: - sorry, that seems to be a massive brain-fart on my part - it's actually "A Silent Voice" that erroneously sorts under A at the moment....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:47, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @ChrisTheDude: Hi, thanks for your comment. I believe the three instances of A Bride's Story in the primary table are already using Template:Sort to alphabetize under B rather than A. Is there another instance I'm missing? Morgan695 (talk) 15:42, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:51, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support from Link20XX
[edit]After giving this a look-over, it definitely shows great improvement from what it used to be. As for comments:
- The links for Yugo Kobayashi and Naoya Matsumoto link to individuals that are in no way connected to the manga
- Fixed.
- Makoto Kobayashi links to a dab page
- Fixed.
- Chica Umino/Chika Umino is inconsistently romanized on the page
- Fixed.
- Add a comma after March 28, 2008 in the lead per WP:DATECOMMA
- Added.
That is all. Link20XX (talk) 00:24, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Link20XX: Hi, comments above. Morgan695 (talk) 02:53, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Alright, after giving the article an even more thorough review, I found a couple more issues:
- Mashiro no Oto has an English title, Those Snow White Notes, which is also the title of the main article, so it should be changed to that
- Fixed.
- Kokkoku should have a piped link with its subtitle Moment by Moment since that seems to be how this article treats series titles with subtitles
- Added.
- Why does the entry on Sanzoku Diary have a stray comma after it? Is this comma part of the title?
- Removed.
- Watashi no Shōnen has an English article at My Boy (manga), so this does not need to link to the Japanese article
- Fixed.
I promise that this is all this time and I will happily support once these issues are addressed. Link20XX (talk) 04:35, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Link20XX: No worries, I appreciate your thoroughness. Comments above. Morgan695 (talk) 04:54, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Great job with this. You've earned my support. Link20XX (talk) 04:56, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- You're good on the accessibility bits, with one small exception: for the row scopes on the "primary" column for each row (which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table), if the cell spans multiple rows, then use
!scope=rowgroup
instead of!scope=row
. You have this on the first "row", but not after that. - Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 00:08, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I believe this is resolved now. If anyone who has more experience building tables could double check for me, it would be appreciated. Morgan695 (talk) 00:23, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support from Z1720
[edit]- "Most recently, the prize was awarded to Darwin Jihen by Shun Umezawa [ja] in 2022." I suggest taking this out as it can become dates, which MOS:DATED says to avoid.
- It seems like a fairly standard practice to note the most recent winner in award-focused FACs (Billboard Latin Music Award for Hot Latin Song of the Year, Academy Award for Best Actress, GLAAD Media Award for Outstanding Comic Book, etc.) I get the concern about information becoming outdated, but that would seem to be a built-in deficiency for articles on awards that have new nominees/recipients on an annual basis, and copy like this would presumably be updated whenever new nominees and winners are announced.
- While it is expected that articles like this will be updated every year, I see many featured content is not updated because the editor who nominated the article has left. I prefer to minimize the amount of text that needs to be updated, and the most recent winner is already noted in the infobox. Another option is to remove the "most recently" statement and replace it with something like "The inaugural Manga Taishō was awarded on March 28, 2008,[7] to Gaku: Minna no Yama by Shinichi Ishizuka [ja] and to Darwin Jihen by Shun Umezawa [ja] in 2022." At least this way if it is not updated it will not fall afoul to MOS:CURRENT as much. Z1720 (talk) 21:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Done.
- While it is expected that articles like this will be updated every year, I see many featured content is not updated because the editor who nominated the article has left. I prefer to minimize the amount of text that needs to be updated, and the most recent winner is already noted in the infobox. Another option is to remove the "most recently" statement and replace it with something like "The inaugural Manga Taishō was awarded on March 28, 2008,[7] to Gaku: Minna no Yama by Shinichi Ishizuka [ja] and to Darwin Jihen by Shun Umezawa [ja] in 2022." At least this way if it is not updated it will not fall afoul to MOS:CURRENT as much. Z1720 (talk) 21:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- It seems like a fairly standard practice to note the most recent winner in award-focused FACs (Billboard Latin Music Award for Hot Latin Song of the Year, Academy Award for Best Actress, GLAAD Media Award for Outstanding Comic Book, etc.) I get the concern about information becoming outdated, but that would seem to be a built-in deficiency for articles on awards that have new nominees/recipients on an annual basis, and copy like this would presumably be updated whenever new nominees and winners are announced.
- "Since its inception, the Manga Taishō has been awarded to fifteen manga series." Another sentence that will become outdated next year, and I suggest removing.
- Ditto for above.
- In this case, I think this sentence can be reworked to something like "Since its inception, the Manga Taishō has been awarded yearly" or "Since its inception, the Manga Taishō has been awarded yearly, with fifteen winners as of 2022." The first option will not need to be updated, and the second option should be updated yearly, but if it is not at least the statement will not interfere with MOS:CURRENT as much. Z1720 (talk) 21:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Done.
- In this case, I think this sentence can be reworked to something like "Since its inception, the Manga Taishō has been awarded yearly" or "Since its inception, the Manga Taishō has been awarded yearly, with fifteen winners as of 2022." The first option will not need to be updated, and the second option should be updated yearly, but if it is not at least the statement will not interfere with MOS:CURRENT as much. Z1720 (talk) 21:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Ditto for above.
- Image check: pass
- Source check: Version reviewed, no concerns.
Please ping when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 02:40, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Z1720: Hi, reply above. Morgan695 (talk) 20:58, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Added some thoughts above. I will totally understand if you disagree, and won't push the point after this, but let me know what is decided. Thanks. Z1720 (talk) 21:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Z1720: Response above. Morgan695 (talk) 18:33, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support: My concerns have been addressed. Z1720 (talk) 19:49, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- @Z1720: Response above. Morgan695 (talk) 18:33, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Added some thoughts above. I will totally understand if you disagree, and won't push the point after this, but let me know what is decided. Thanks. Z1720 (talk) 21:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 19:21, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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