Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Carpenter ant Tanzania
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- Reason
- Yet another renom. Good quality and EV, showing an interesting behaviour. Could be added to other articles as well. Countering bias against ant images. Previous Nom
- Articles this image appears in
- Carpenter ant, Formicinae
- Creator
- Muhammad Mahdi Karim
- Support as nominator --Muhammad(talk) 18:22, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: The "interesting behaviour" is not discussed, and this isn't even used as a lead image- I'm not certain about the EV here. J Milburn (talk) 22:24, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- For me, an image speaks a 1000 words and so the image has greater value since it shows something not explained in the text. I don't know much about ants' digestive or respiratory systems or I would add something to the articles. --Muhammad(talk) 07:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Weak oppose - It shouldn´t have shallow DoF. The leg of the front of the image is blurry as well as the antenas.- ☩Damërung ☩. -- 00:23, 16 October 2009 (UTC)- You've been looking at too many focus stacks :) It's probably impossible to photograph an ant at anything smaller than f/11 without significant diffraction softening. They're just too small. So yes, he could get more depth of field, but he would rapidly lose sharpness. I imagine it's already down-sampled due to some diffraction softening at f/11. At f/13 it would probably have to be down-sampled to 1000px or less (to keep the same sharpness), thus barely meeting the resolution requirement. There really is a huge different between photographing a 10mm bug and a 4mm bug. We can't use the same standards for both. Kaldari (talk) 21:28, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Tanks Kaldari. Couldn't have put it better myself --Muhammad(talk) 03:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Support- I laughted a lot about this. That´s right, an ant is a very small object. - ☩Damërung ☩. -- 00:11, 18 October 2009 (UTC)- Support edit 1 - Better cropped. - ☩Damërung ☩. -- 14:21, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Tanks Kaldari. Couldn't have put it better myself --Muhammad(talk) 03:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- You've been looking at too many focus stacks :) It's probably impossible to photograph an ant at anything smaller than f/11 without significant diffraction softening. They're just too small. So yes, he could get more depth of field, but he would rapidly lose sharpness. I imagine it's already down-sampled due to some diffraction softening at f/11. At f/13 it would probably have to be down-sampled to 1000px or less (to keep the same sharpness), thus barely meeting the resolution requirement. There really is a huge different between photographing a 10mm bug and a 4mm bug. We can't use the same standards for both. Kaldari (talk) 21:28, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support per Kaldari. Focus stacked images can't become the minimum standard. There are regularly cases where it isn't possible. Noodle snacks (talk) 04:19, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Comment Not centered properly. Consider removing the rightmost eighth or so of the shot so the ant is dead center. That eighth ads little to the shot. _Nezzadar_☎_ 05:33, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't center intentionally but if you're willing to support a centered one, then I will put up an edit later today --Muhammad(talk) 07:33, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
- Edit 1 uploaded --Muhammad(talk) 10:18, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't center intentionally but if you're willing to support a centered one, then I will put up an edit later today --Muhammad(talk) 07:33, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
ConditionalSupport for Edit Yeah, it is better cropped, however I am worried about the EV. The lead shot for carpenter ant could be switched out for yours, upping the EV. Not so for the shot in Formicinae, which I think is a better pic and is already an FP. If you can get this ant in as the lead for carpenter ant I'll support that edit. _Nezzadar_☎_ 17:31, 18 October 2009 (UTC)- Replaced my older image with this one as the lead in Carpenter ant --Muhammad(talk) 00:31, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support for Edit 1 per Noodle Snacks.--Banzoo (talk) 19:14, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. Does a good job of illustrating the animal and its behaviour. Mostlyharmless (talk) 02:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
- Support. Good detail and subject isolation. No idea why it failed to get a single vote previously. Ðiliff «» (Talk) 09:22, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- I believe it was lost in the flood. --jjron (talk) 13:46, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Promoted File:Carpenter ant Tanzania crop.jpg --Shoemaker's Holiday Over 213 FCs served 10:08, 22 October 2009 (UTC)