Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Henri Frenay
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- Reason
- High quality and EV
- Articles in which this image appears
- Henri Frenay
- FP category for this image
- Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Military
- Creator
- Frink (uploaded by Christoph Braun)
- Support as nominator --Tomer T (talk) 14:36, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
- Comment - Awesome image, but copyright is unclear. If PWB was a joint British-American group, how do we know "Frink" was an American? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:55, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it likely count as Crown Copyright (a straight 50 years) if it was British? Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:19, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- If a military photographer, probably. What if the photographer was a civilian? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:23, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Why would the image be in the Library of Congress' collection if that were the case? Rreagan007 (talk) 19:10, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- The unit was semi-military, so it may have been shared between governments (it was, after all, a joint operation). Far as I can tell, Crown Copyright only goes for actual employees of the UK Gov. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:25, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Since it is in the U.S. collection, I have to assume that it was an American who took the photo. And even if it were a civilian working for the U.S. government who took the photo, it would still be in the public domain as an image taken by a U.S. government employee. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:08, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Probably a safe assumption, but for FP I really want certainty when it comes to copyright. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:35, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- It is impossible to be 100% certain of the copyright status of most works. Under the Library of Congress description page for this photo it says "Rights Advisory: No known restrictions on publication." That's good enough for me. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:25, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- It's also quite possible to be "beyond a reasonable doubt" for most works, which is what I was aiming at. You raise a good point about the LOC's designation, although I note that they are sometimes incorrect. I won't oppose, but I'm not going to support. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:50, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- It is impossible to be 100% certain of the copyright status of most works. Under the Library of Congress description page for this photo it says "Rights Advisory: No known restrictions on publication." That's good enough for me. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:25, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- Probably a safe assumption, but for FP I really want certainty when it comes to copyright. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:35, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Since it is in the U.S. collection, I have to assume that it was an American who took the photo. And even if it were a civilian working for the U.S. government who took the photo, it would still be in the public domain as an image taken by a U.S. government employee. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:08, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- The unit was semi-military, so it may have been shared between governments (it was, after all, a joint operation). Far as I can tell, Crown Copyright only goes for actual employees of the UK Gov. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:25, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
- Why would the image be in the Library of Congress' collection if that were the case? Rreagan007 (talk) 19:10, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
- If a military photographer, probably. What if the photographer was a civilian? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:23, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it likely count as Crown Copyright (a straight 50 years) if it was British? Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:19, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
- Support with concerns due to copyright status. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 02:58, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Not Promoted --Armbrust The Homunculus 15:36, 15 October 2013 (UTC)