Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Muhammad

Muhammad

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 20 Feb 2011 at 03:51:41 (UTC)

File:Aziz efendi-muhammad alayhi s-salam.jpg

Original - "Muhammad" in written in Islamic Thuluth calligraphy.

Reason: High Ev as lead image in main article. It is featured in Turkish Wiki also.
Articles in which this image appears: Muhammad, Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy, Muhammad (name), etc..
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Religion and mythology or Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Others?
Creator: Khattat Aziz Efendi

Support as nominator --Spongie555 (talk) 03:51, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: In what order is this read? Seems like to many letters for just Muhammed. 75.41.110.200 (talk) 04:34, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- It is read from the right. It reads Muhammad alayhissalaam, Muhammad peace be upon him --Muhammad(talk) 09:24, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Can we expand the caption showing the Arabic letters in order that they are read and the complete translation? 75.41.110.200 (talk) 15:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom, although if it has the "alayhissalaam", doesn't that make the encyclopedic value a bit doubtful for "Muhammad (name)"? Spikebrennan (talk) 18:01, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For that matter, could this image have EV for Peace be upon him (Islam)? Spikebrennan (talk) 17:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support obvious EV and good design --Muhammad(talk) 03:17, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support due to EV and aesthetics; but mostly EV. I wonder if it would be prohibitively difficult to convert this to SVG, however... Purpy Pupple (talk) 03:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Purpy Pupple. And a question - might it not also be of some use in Thuluth? I know that's a hair over-illustrated at the moment, but it might be more of a draw there. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:12, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment/suggest suspending The copyright status of this image isn't entirely clear. Though it is PD in Turkey (based on the author's date of death), the US doesn't follow the rule of the shorter term. (And it wouldn't have been PD in 1996, the key URAA date.) The uploader supplied no information about the date of publication of this image. If it was published 1923 or after, it would still be copyrighted in the United States. The book that it comes from is not available online. Does anyone who lives near one of the libraries where the book is held (see OCLC 51718704) want to go see if the book contains any additional information? Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- According to the Turkish Copyright act, section 29 "The protection period for handicrafts, minor works of art, photographic and cinema works is 70 years from their date of becoming publicized." - so it MAY, arguably, be out of copyright in America if published in 1925 or before as well. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 05:23, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support as long as the copyright issue is solved. Nergaal (talk) 16:29, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 14:49, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support if copyright issue is resolved successfully, but oppose until that happens. --Avenue (talk) 11:41, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suspended pending copyright discussion. I will be raising this at WT:FPC. Jujutacular ^talk 06:13, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Aziz efendi-muhammad alayhi s-salam.jpg. Jujutacular ^talk 14:13, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- More help at the deletion request Juju links above would be good. I've done what I could to get to the bottom of this, which wasn't much. Chick Bowen 00:16, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Jujutacular ^talk 00:23, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Commons request resulted in the file being deleted, but it was restored locally. That said, it seems that we do not have enough evidence to be sure that this is PD, which would be required here for FP. I will be listing the restored local copy at WP:PUF. Jujutacular ^talk 00:23, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]