Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Address Before a Joint Session of Congress (February 24, 2009) Barack Obama (video)
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This is a video version. I previously nominated an audio version below at Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Address Before a Joint Session of Congress (February 24, 2009) Barack Obama. This was not an official State of the Union address. The speech was delivered on the floor of the chamber of the United States House of Representatives in the United States Capitol in a joint session of the United States Congress. President Obama discussed the recently passed $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 as well as the Troubled Assets Relief Program, the state of the economy, and the future of the country as it emerged from the Late-2000s financial crisis. Transcript and video available at the source. This file contributes significantly to the following articles:
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- New file added nominate and support.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Support Per my !vote above, looks better than the previous version. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 2:43pm • 04:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- Support as per my comment above.Major Bloodnok (talk) 06:53, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- For procedural reasons, I'm restarting voting on this. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:05, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I just added a second version with slightly higher quality audio. I left the video size at original and it looks funny on the description page, so I will redo at this maximal audio quality with smaller video size and save over this version.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:44, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
- I have posted the proper second version now.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:25, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I kind of have to ask: The second version has such poor video, that is it actually worth it, just to have some very blocky images with the sound?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam Cuerden (talk • contribs) 20:46, 15 April 2011
- Do you think the video/audio combo of Major Bloodnok (talk · contribs)'s clip above is better. Maybe he could produce a full version for us to look at.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:50, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- With a speech which lasts a long time I think we are at the limit of video quality, given the 100MB file size limit set by WP. It is certainly an issue we should address. On the whole I am willing to excuse the video quality given the sound quality and the historical importance, although I could be persuaded to vote the other way. The full file I made is actually larger than 100MB, even at the lowest settings on my video editor, so I won't able to upload it (the editor estimated it would be 98MB before it rendered it). I don't have the time at the moment to render another one, and I think the difference would be marginal at best. A shorter video of, say 20 minutes, allows much better quality than it does here. Major Bloodnok (talk) 06:28, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think that we should view these as an opportunity to have audio augmented by some sort of video. Admittedly for long files, we will not be able to produce high quality videos to go along with the audio. I personally prefer to see the speeches along with the audio and feel the videos are valuable for that opportunity.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Well, fair enough. Make sure the source is very clearly documented; if the file upload size increases, these will need to be redone. Adam Cuerden (talk) 19:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- I think that we should view these as an opportunity to have audio augmented by some sort of video. Admittedly for long files, we will not be able to produce high quality videos to go along with the audio. I personally prefer to see the speeches along with the audio and feel the videos are valuable for that opportunity.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:48, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- With a speech which lasts a long time I think we are at the limit of video quality, given the 100MB file size limit set by WP. It is certainly an issue we should address. On the whole I am willing to excuse the video quality given the sound quality and the historical importance, although I could be persuaded to vote the other way. The full file I made is actually larger than 100MB, even at the lowest settings on my video editor, so I won't able to upload it (the editor estimated it would be 98MB before it rendered it). I don't have the time at the moment to render another one, and I think the difference would be marginal at best. A shorter video of, say 20 minutes, allows much better quality than it does here. Major Bloodnok (talk) 06:28, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- Do you think the video/audio combo of Major Bloodnok (talk · contribs)'s clip above is better. Maybe he could produce a full version for us to look at.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:50, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
- I kind of have to ask: The second version has such poor video, that is it actually worth it, just to have some very blocky images with the sound?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam Cuerden (talk • contribs) 20:46, 15 April 2011
- I have posted the proper second version now.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:25, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
I have added this speech to two more pages. Now, this file contributes significantly to the following articles:
- Barack Obama speech to joint session of Congress, February 2009
- First 100 days of Barack Obama's presidency
- Timeline of the Presidency of Barack Obama (2009)
- American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009
- Presidency of Barack Obama
- Question Why can't we split it into multiple files and then use a higher bitrate. Zginder 2011-04-23T22:45Z (UTC)
- Imagine three or four screens in place of one for each of its uses in articles.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:00, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- This would certainly make technical sense, but the problem would be an aesthetic one; I agree with TTT above. Major Bloodnok (talk) 06:56, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
- Imagine three or four screens in place of one for each of its uses in articles.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:00, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
- I do have a problem with a 52-minute video. And the res means it has to be so small it's little better than hearing the audio alone. So much of it is politician's pap (that's politics, not an anti-Obama observation). TTT, can I ask whether you envisage a whole raft of similar nominations? My concern is, what is the theme of the address? It might be of greater EV, as well as solving technical issues, to produce a number of files from this huge one, each with a theme. I don't care if each is just 15 seconds long (or a couple of minutes); they'd be more focused for use in articles. Tony (talk) 11:47, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
- I have put forth the FS equivalent of the FP panorama. A small clip would be like a picture of a building in that panorama. It would need to go through its own WP:FSC and would be considered distinct from this file. For a blurb, check WP articles that may quote from the speech.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:32, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Promoted = Address Before a Joint Session of Congress (February 24, 2009) - Barack Obama (WhiteHouse.gov).ogv Adam Cuerden (talk) 13:53, 29 April 2011 (UTC)