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- Contributor(s): At least Courcelles, Wizardman, Staxringold, KV5. Others, feel free to add yourself.
It's been a long road, but here we are. The first-round of the Major League Baseball draft. It's been a lot of work, but also a lot of fun. Every articles involved has passed a featured list candidacy. --Courcelles 21:11, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Co-nominator support Woot, Courcelles did all the nom-work. Great job by everybody, our biggest project yet! Staxringold talkcontribs 21:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Co-nom support - Glad that I started a trend with this one! — KV5 • Talk • 23:27, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
- Support. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 03:16, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Support, but shouldn't the topic title include a mention of "first round", since that's what they all seem to be based on.......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:46, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Support Congratulations.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:05, 6 May 2011 (UTC)- Oppose Per Zginder below. I saw all those FLs and missed the finepoints.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Continued Oppose I am checking back in as requested. It appears you piped the wrong article to a passable name in hopes of getting the topic through. What is needed is a new article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:00, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- This topic was worked on for more than a year and repeatedly discussed at FTC's talk page. This sure would've been nice to hear ages ago. Regardless, what better summary article could exist? This is a topic about high MLB draft picks, and this is the ideal summary of that. Staxringold talkcontribs 20:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- What you are pointing to as the main article is not the overview article for the rest of the topics the proper overview article would be an article that properly presents the overall subject of Major League Baseball first-round picks in the June Rule 4 draft to the reader without undue weight on first overall selections.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:39, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- Making an article with that kind of title just to get a topic through seems to be a waste of time though. I'm tempted to just move the title back to what it was originally, since I never saw it as all that wrong. But yeah, as Stax said above, having people suddenly complain about titles well over a year after this began is rather disheartening. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:10, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- It is a massive and commendable project. However, the main article does not cover the topic.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:55, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- That assertion is untrue. The lead article focuses on a subset of the full topic. All first overall picks are covered and discussed in the leads of the individual draft pick articles, and all of the articles are (I believe) necessary to ensure that all of the first overall picks are covered. I concur with Stax and Wizardman that if this was already discussed at FTQ, there should not be a problem with it now. — KV5 • Talk • 11:31, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
- It is a massive and commendable project. However, the main article does not cover the topic.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:55, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
- Making an article with that kind of title just to get a topic through seems to be a waste of time though. I'm tempted to just move the title back to what it was originally, since I never saw it as all that wrong. But yeah, as Stax said above, having people suddenly complain about titles well over a year after this began is rather disheartening. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:10, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- What you are pointing to as the main article is not the overview article for the rest of the topics the proper overview article would be an article that properly presents the overall subject of Major League Baseball first-round picks in the June Rule 4 draft to the reader without undue weight on first overall selections.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:39, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- This topic was worked on for more than a year and repeatedly discussed at FTC's talk page. This sure would've been nice to hear ages ago. Regardless, what better summary article could exist? This is a topic about high MLB draft picks, and this is the ideal summary of that. Staxringold talkcontribs 20:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Continued Oppose I am checking back in as requested. It appears you piped the wrong article to a passable name in hopes of getting the topic through. What is needed is a new article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:00, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose Per Zginder below. I saw all those FLs and missed the finepoints.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:43, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose The lead list is the first overall picks and the others are first-round picks. Also there was more than one draft in the early years of the draft, but only one per year is mentioned. Zginder 2011-05-06T21:37Z (UTC)
- Would a rename of the topic to "First round picks in Major League Baseball's Rule 4 draft" work? Courcelles 22:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- He makes a good point about the other drafts. In the olden days, there was more than one amateur draft per year. – Muboshgu (talk) 14:28, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- I fixed the above name, though the problem is I'm not sure how to note it being a first-round pick topic while having the title show the first overall picks. Not really a way to do that. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 15:42, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe the title "First-round picks in Major League Baseball's Rule 4 Draft" will strike the opposers better. This clarifies that it is only the June Rule 4 draft, and I still think that the lead article is fine, because it's a summary of the top picks combining elements from all of the related articles. — KV5 • Talk • 00:31, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
- The rule 4 draft was held multiple times a year until 1986. The rule 4 distinction does not denote the time of the draft, but to distinguish it from Rule 5 draft which is completely different. Zginder 2011-05-13T05:10Z (UTC)
- I could change it to first-round picks in the June Rule 4 draft, which is wordy but as accurate as we're going to get. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 02:47, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- That would work, since this is all June drafts anyway; the August and January drafts are not part of this topic and never have been. "First-round picks in Major League Baseball's June draft"? — KV5 • Talk • 00:20, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- I could change it to first-round picks in the June Rule 4 draft, which is wordy but as accurate as we're going to get. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 02:47, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
- The rule 4 draft was held multiple times a year until 1986. The rule 4 distinction does not denote the time of the draft, but to distinguish it from Rule 5 draft which is completely different. Zginder 2011-05-13T05:10Z (UTC)
- I fixed the above name, though the problem is I'm not sure how to note it being a first-round pick topic while having the title show the first overall picks. Not really a way to do that. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 15:42, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
- Closed with no consensus to promote as featured topic. - Excluding the supports from the contributors, there are more opposes than there are more supports for the topic. GamerPro64 20:14, 23 June 2011 (UTC)