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I think this article is well on it's was to GA status, but I still think the prose is still lacking brilliancy. The whole thing of starting each paragraph with "In April 2002" or "In late 2005" or whatever is quite tacky. The Personal information section could probably be done without, or integrated into other section(s). Anything to improve the writing itself is encouraged, but other points are welcome too. -- Reaper X 21:47, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Only read the beginning parts, but here are my comments:

  • Lead could be expanded per WP:LEAD.
  • Early life section suggestions (hover over underlined text to see my comments; if they scroll off into ellipses, edit this to see full comments):
  • Alanis Morissette was born in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada's capital, to Alan and Georgia Morissette. The couple brought their three children (Alanis, her twin brother, Wade, and their older brother, Chad) up as Roman Catholic, but Alanis later converted to Buddhism [citation needed]. From 1977 to 1980, the family lived in Lahr (Black Forest), Germany.
  • At the age of seven, Morissette wrote her first song. With the money saved from her stint on the children's television show You Can't Do That on Television, she released an independent single "Fate Stay with Me" with the B-side "Find the Right Man". She appeared onstage with the Orpheus Musical Theatre Society. Morissette attended Glebe Collegiate Institute in Ottawa during her high school years. In New York City Morissette landed a spot on Star Search, a popular American talent competition on which she used her stage name, Alanis Nadine. Morissette flew to Los Angeles to appear on the show, but she lost after one round.
  • During this period Morissette suffered from anorexia and bulimia nervosa, catalysed by "hardcore" professional pressure and managerial demands. She recalled returning to the studio to re-record some vocals, only to be told "I actually wanted to talk to you about your weight. You can't be successful if you're fat." During this period, she lived on a diet of carrots, black coffee, and Melba toast, and her weight fluctuated by 15 to 20 pounds. She subsequently began therapy, which she called "a long process to un-program [my brain]. I try to remember, whatever my body is, it's perfect the way it is." BuddingJournalist 02:39, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your review. I have made these edits to address some of them. I don't have sources for the time periods for "Orpheus Musical Theatre Society" or "In New York City". As per explaining "'hardcore' professional pressure and managerial demands", I made this edit. The record label part and album is explained in the next section. The quote "I actually wanted to talk to you about your weight. You can't be successful if you're fat." is included in the citation of the whole paragraph it is in. Again, thank you. Hopefully the other missing details can be assisited by other editors. -- Reaper X 21:37, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For Orpheus, see http://www.orpheus-theatre.on.ca/members-only/alumni.html. Hope that helps! :) BuddingJournalist 00:49, 9 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, thanks for that. Of course I didn't properly cite it, but I will go through it all as per LuciferMorgan's review sometime when I am free or if anyone else does. -- Reaper X 18:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LuciferMorgan

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Review {{citeweb}} with the citations. LuciferMorgan 03:28, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Metamagician3000

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I'll see if I can do anything to tighten up the prose myself - might be simpler. I think the lead needs another sentence or two; I'll look at that. Metamagician3000 13:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've also made some comments on the talk page of the article. Metamagician3000 01:39, 25 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Johnnyw

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There are quite a few unsourced statements in the article, besides the one already marked with the appropriate "fact" template. In particular, the "Move to Los Angeles" should be sourced a lot more thorough imho, since it contains many hints at her motivation and less-then-obvious biographical facts. Good luck with the article! Johnnyw talk 21:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]