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Charles Lindbergh

• A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style; it can be found on the automated peer review page for June 2009.

Prose, copyediting

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I've listed this article for peer review because I think this article has all of the major aspects need to be a featured article but I could use some help with looking for things that I am not seeing. Specifically if anyone has suggestions for prose, expansion or structure but all comments are welcome.Kumioko (talk) 16:05, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

• Per the script I reviewed the images and made sure they all had captions, rmv'ed a couple that where not meaninful to the article and realigned some so they would flow better.
• I fixed a couple of categories.--Kumioko (talk) 12:55, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Restored long standing images which are significant, relate directly to, and illustrate material in the text of the article. Relocated images that had been moved away from the text relating to them. Deleted redundant caption which simply repeats text plainly visible in the image (kidnapping poster). (Centpacrr (talk) 15:36, 18 June 2009 (UTC))

• • I removed some images bacause I think this article has too many images already than it needs and I removed a few that where less pertinanet to the overall rendering of the article. Also, the MOS states that an image should not be placed in a section so that the section starts with an image or causes another section to start in the middle of an image (can't remember where I say it though) so I shofted some images around wihin sections. I understand some where long standing but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are needed for the article. --Kumioko (talk) 19:35, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
    • I have been researching and working (approaching 600 edits) on the aviation (including Air Mail), kidnapping, awards, and media sections of this article for 15 months including the creation and contribution of 17 images of unique items of Lindberghiana from my large collection of original materials. They were carefully selected and are designed to specifically illustrate many important aspects of Lindbergh's life in these areas. While the placements that have evolved through consensus for some of them may not fall completely within one or more MOS guidelines, they were carefully considered and decided upon for contextual reasons. This is permitted (and even encouraged) as guidelines are advisory in nature as opposed to "hard and fast rules." I will, however, go over them again and see if any tweaks in size or placement might improve their usage. (Centpacrr (talk) 22:49, 18 June 2009 (UTC))
      • I know you have spent a lot of time on the article and please don't take offense, Charles Lindbergh had a lot of things going on in his life and theres a lot of info out there. More than we can shoehorn into this one article. I just think that we should trim some images thats all, just my opinion.--Kumioko (talk) 23:08, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
        • I have deleted a few images and modified a few others for the time being but may restore some later depending on how this review goes. I may at some time in the future do a separate article on Lindbergh and the Air Mail which would take some of this information to a new page. (Centpacrr (talk) 02:49, 19 June 2009 (UTC))
          • Sounds good in fact I can see several articles that could or should be created or expanded including his trans-atlantic flight, the kidnapping, his arctic exploits, his military service, his work with the air mail as you mention, etc.--Kumioko (talk) 03:16, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
        • There is, in fact, an entire field of study and collecting relating to Lindbergh and the Air Mail called "Lindberghiana" which is my particular interest. Most of the images that I have contributed to this article (such as [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], and [6]) are of such items in my own Linberghiana collection. (This collection also contains a great many items relating to CAL's survey flights in Central and South America for Pan Am.) Although relatively short, this portion of his early career probably does indeed deserve an article of its own, although in the meantime I'll leave these images with the text in the current CAL article so that they will be available to Wikipedia readers. (Centpacrr (talk) 03:54, 19 June 2009 (UTC))

(undent) I just noticed that there is no link on the article to say this article is in peer review. Is there something wrong woth the template or was this article cast out of the peer review process and it hasn't caught up yet?--Kumioko (talk) 15:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)