Wikipedia:Peer review/Chew Valley Lake/archive1

Chew Valley Lake

I would be grateful for comments on this page which has had a lot of work done on it, in particular to remove the peacock words which made it sound like a "tourist brochure" and to sort out a consistent use of English and Scientific names for fish, birds etc. A couple of people have suggested it should be put forward for a featured article but I'd really appreciate your comments first.Rod 14:13, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The introduction is a bit short, generally they should be two or three paragraphs summarising the main points of the article. There are external links spread throughout the page that should probably be at the end. Unless everything in the article is based on those two books in the bibliography, you should cite sources (WP:CITE). Joe D (t) 14:25, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some ideas:

create a section covering the ecological interest of the lake, and place all info on that subject there
create a heading for "leisure use" and then make all the various section headings (birdwatching, fishing etc) subheading of that
go to English Nature's Nature on the Map site, where you can find the SSSI citation sheet - this will give you lots of info, particularly on the lake's biodiversity, which could be added
The CVLBirding website also has lots of good info on the lake's wildlife which you could plunder
Eliminate redlinks - a stub article on Ernest Greenfield is better than nothing at all
I personally like OS grid refs cited as close to the start of the article as poss - see Cheddar Reservoir for a suggested style.

More as & when I think of them SP-KP 19:00, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the useful comments. I've expanded the introductory paagraph a bit - do you think this is enough? I've improved the grid ref as suggested & put it in the into. I'm not sure about an ecology section & a leisure use section as surely information on fishing will be relevant in both sections. I will go & find the SSSI sheet & take another look at CVLBirding. Thanks again & keep em coming Rod 20:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Some more ideas:

You could include a list of the location names at the lake e.g. bays, islands etc. CVL Birding has a guide to these, I think
A list of rare vagrant birds recorded over the years would be of interest - CVL Birding can help with that too
There is a Chew Conservation Committee and a Chew Biodiversity Action Plan. Bristol Water should be able to provide more info about these
The publication Natural History of the Chew Valley By Rowland Janes has lots of good info about the lake (local libraries will have a copy)
Maybe something about public transport routes which pass by the lake?

SP-KP 20:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried to do many of the edits suggested including rearranging the sections etc. I've also asked other with local knowledge to help. I've asked for permission to use a map which shows the differnt areas, bird hides etc. I've also tried to do an info box table thing + map showing the location but it's not very good (my first attempt at this) could anyone help?Rod 00:03, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Great work. One thing to note - if permission is given regarding the map, make sure that permission-giver understands the nature of Wikipedia's licensing, otherwise the image could be deleted by admins. User:Jimfbleak can tell you about this subject. SP-KP 00:18, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, having taken a better look at the page it seems there is very little about the construction, and that paragraphs that are about the construction are actually more about things like the prior archaeological surveys. Should mention things like compulsory purchases and who actually built it (the picture suggests it was Bristol Waterboard Co.). Is the dam concrete, earth or both? Joe D (t) 03:14, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Following your comments about construction, I've gone back to the books & added the construction company, compulsory purchases (act of parliament), & concrete & clay construction - hope it all makes sense Rod 20:25, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's exactly the sort of thing I was thinking of, thanks. Joe D (t) 00:57, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Need to add a local map

I think this article needs a local map to illustrate the areas of the lake, where bird hides, bridges, access points are etc. I have sent requests to the owners of the maps at: [1] and [2] to ask if these could be used but had no response. I don't have the knowledge/software to do this & wondered if anyone else could help? Rod 11:11, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]