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I've listed this article for peer review because I'm going to nominate this article in the future to be a FA. It used to be one, but it was delisted. The article has the Category:Article Feedback Pilot and according to 4 people as today, the article is trustworthy and objetive, but is incomplete and is not very well-written. So I'd like to know what would improve it before I search its brown star. Thanks. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 05:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
Brianboulton comments:
- Lead
- "released to the United States radio" - "The United States radio" is a bit vague; can you be a bit more specific?
- Problems with this sentence: "It was originally written by Austin basing himself on No Doubt's "Simple Kind of Life", but he did not finish the song." First, what do you mean by "basing himself"? Then, if he didn't finish the song, can you really say "It was originally written by Austin"?
- "'80s" too informal. Write "1980s"
- "in countries such as" is a non-encyclopedic formulation. Just name the countries: "in Denmark, Ireland, Norway..." etc
- "flashbacks of when" → "flashbacks to when"
- "..., and nowadays, both are "cool" about their friendship." "Nowadays" is inspecific and unsuitable; the statement that "both are 'cool' about their friendship" needs to be rewritten in more formal, encyclopedic language.
- Writing and composition
- "trying to do his version" → "trying to write his version"
- "The lyrics "Cool" sums up the evolution..." Not grammatical. Perhaps "The lyrics of "Cool" sum up..."
- "the synthesizer is lowered" Can you explain more precisely what this means?
- I didn't write the article at first, so I don't have idea what exactly means. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 01:36, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- "sotto voce", not "sotto voice". The sentence construction needs to change: "after which she sings more softly, almost sotto voce..."
- The Commercial sheet music (ref. 6) appears to have been widely used in the writing of this section. Have you checked to ensure against close paraphrasing of the original wording?
- Critical reception
- "...while Stephen Thomas Erlewine from Allmusic wrote that the "high school anthem-in-waiting";" Some words seem missing here; the phrase is incomplete as written. Or perhaps "called it" in place of "wrote that"?
- "While Eric Greenwood for Drawer B wrote about the song it is 'a retrofitted [song] with stale synths and chugging guitars' with 'dorkier lyrics than even Cyndi Lauper would dare';[12]" This doesn't work, as written. The "while" at the beginning doesn't lead anywhere; "wrote about the song it is 'a retrofitted [song]..." doesn't make sense. The whole sentence needs to be rethought.
- There is a lot of direct quotation in this section. Some of these comments could be paraphrased into your own prose.
- Chart performance
- "Next week it raised to number sixty-four" → "Next week it rose to number sixty-four"
- "within the next eight weeks it reached its peak position at number thirteen on September 3, 2005" You don't need "within the next eight weeks" when you have the exact date.
- "moderately received" → "performed moderately"?
- ""Cool" inaugurated the chart entering to it at number twelve" How did "Cool" inaugurate the chart? The word "to" in this phrase is redundant.
- Because it inaugurated the chart, it was the twelfth song on the Czech chart when this was created. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 01:36, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- "achieving to reach its peak position of number ten" The words "to reach" are redundant
- "soaring to" is inappropriate language in a neutral encyclopedia.
- Generally in this section, the language is over-repetitive. The word "debuted" occurs nine times, and "peak" or "peaked" occur eight times. Some variation of expression would be good. I also think you would do well to keep to the WP convention of writing numbers greater tan 10 numerically.
- WP:NUMBERS: "numbers greater than nine are commonly rendered in numerals, or in words if they are expressed in one or two words" not that they must be written out. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 01:36, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- In a previous FAC someone commented me that a section was "very verbouse", so it has nonsense to search many synonyms and then have those comments. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 01:36, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
- Music video and promotion
- Overlinking: brunette
- "modern day" → "present day"
- 2nd paragraph: ""Cool" premiered on MTV's top ten chart program..." You need to clarify that this refers to the video.
- Charts section: The "Chart procession and succession" information doesn't seem to justify a separate table.
- References: some of the retrieval dates are 5 or 6 years old. It might be a good idea to check these out.
- I checked them when I cleaned-up the article, so that's why they still here. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 01:36, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I hope these points are useful. As I am unable to watch individual peer review pages, please ping my talkpage if you wish to raise any issues with me, or if you want me to look at the article again. Brianboulton (talk) 22:19, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you so much Brian. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 01:36, 19 May 2011 (UTC)