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Copenhagen Metro

This peer review discussion has been closed.
I am aiming for FA with this good article, and after repeated copyedits I feel there is little more I can do myself. Any feedback for non-compliances with FA standards are appreciated, although my weakest area is the prose, so that may very well be where the most feedback is needed. Thanks, Arsenikk ^(talk) 10:00, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Comments from Niagara

• Alt-text is needed.
• Per MOS:CURRENCY the first instance of a currency should be written out (i.e. 1.5 to 18.3 billion Danish kroner).
• If a 2-zone ticket costs DKK 23, how does the ticket price change the farther you travel (i.e. 3-zone, 4-zone, etc.). What does it cost to get a "Copehagen Card"? Any idea how the "Copehagen Card" works (swipe card, RFID card, etc.).
• "...because the operator used the nights for maintenance." → The operator is Metro Service, right?
• "(07–10 and 15–18)" → Should the hours of operation be written out to avoid any confusion? (07:00–10:00 and 15:00–18:00)
• " Although the trains are not equipped with drivers, there are stewards that help passengers, perform ticket controls and assist in emergency situations." → Do the "stewards" work onboard the train or in the station?
• The {{cite journal}} template has a parameter (|trans_title=) that allows a translated title to be added, which might be helpful.
• For citation 23, I'd break that up with WP:CITESHORT so as to allow to you to specify the exact page that you are referencing, rather than having someone search through the entire document to find it.

Some changes in prose to make it flow better:

• "Trains run continually, including all night, with the headway varying from two to twenty minutes."
  • To: "Trains run continually, twenty-four hours a day, with the headway varying from two to twenty minutes."
• "This would increase construction costs with DKK 900 million, and was not economic. The high costs were in part due to an extra TBM being needed to finish the project in time."
  • To: "The proposal would have increased construction costs by DKK 900 million and was deemed not economical. The increased cost was, in part, due to an extra TBM being needed to complete the project on time."
• "It followed for the most part the route of the former Amager Line of the Danish State Railways. With this stage complete, 34 trains had been delivered. However, the line had caused a heated debate, and several locals had organized themselves in the Amager Metro Group. They demanded that the line instead be tunneled, arguing that it caused a physical barrier in Amager and that it created noise pollution."
  • To: "It followed, for the most part, the route of the former Amager Line of the Danish State Railways. With this stage complete, the 34 trains were delivered. However, the line caused a heated debate, with several locals organized themselves into the Amager Metro Group. The group argued that the line should have been built underground, citing concerns that it would create noise pollution and a physical barrier in Amager."
• "The tunnels have been excavated using boring with tunnel boring machines (TBM), cut-and-cover and new Austrian tunnelling method."
  • To: "The tunnels were excavated by the cut-and-cover method, the New Austrian Tunnelling method and by tunnel boring machines (TBM)."
• "Initially, the system had night trains on Thursday, Friday and Saturday night, but from 19 March 2009, this was extended to all nights."
  • To: "Initially, the system operated trains after __:__ only on Thursdays through Saturdays, but, starting on 19 March 2009, night service was extended to the rest of the week."
• "The ATO is the autopilot that drives the trains after a predefined schedule, insures that the train stop at stations and operates the doors. The ATS keeps track of all components of the network, including the rails and all trains on the system, and displays a live schematic at the control center. The ATC is designed so only the ATP is safety-critical, and will halt trains if the other systems have faults."
  • To: "The ATO is the autopilot that runs the trains on a predefined schedule, insures that the trains stop at the station and opens the doors. The ATS keeps track of all the components in the network, including the rails and all of the trains in the system, and displays a live schematic at the control center. The ATC is designed so that the ATP is the only safety-critical system, as it would halt the trains if the other systems fail."
• "The center also has the system's work trains, which includes a diesel locomotive that can fetch broken trains."
  • To: "The center also has several maintenance trains, including a diesel locomotive that is able retrieve broken down or disabled trains."
• "The City Circle Line is an under-construction expansion of the metro, scheduled to open in 2018."
  • To: "An expansion of the metro, the City Circle Line, is under-construction and scheduled to open in 2018."

Sorry if I've changed any the meanings, I don't read Danish and wasn't able to translate some of the sources, so I working off of context. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 01:12, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the peer review, it is most appreciated. I've fixed up everything, except the alt-text. This has been removed as a FA criteria, because there is strong evidence we have been doing it "wrong" on Wikipedia, so I'll await the outcome of that debate until I add it later. Otherwise: Yes, Metro Service is the operator; did you feel that should be specified while talking about the schedule? The Copenhagen Card is a museum-pass; I used it the one time I took the Copenhagen Metro, and as far as I can remember, it is a barrier-free system (you only show the card during a control), but I cannot reference it, so adding "barrier-free" before proof-of-payment would be WP:OR. I'll dig around and see if I can find a source, perhaps Jensen says something. Arsenikk ^(talk) 21:37, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Really, the policy alt-text changed; I'm going to have to keep an eye on that. I notice that {{Cite web}} also has a |trans_title=. Yeah, I'd reiterate who the operator is. The Copenhagen Card is a literal "museum pass"? I was picturing something like SmarTrip or MetroCard; I'd mention that the card is used for other things as well. A photo of a ticket or the Copenhagen Card might also be useful. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 23:54, 16 April 2010 (UTC)