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Félix Houphouët-Boigny

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I've listed this article for peer review because it recently passed GA and I want to have a final polishing off before I submit this to FAC. It has been mentioned that this needs a good copyedit, so I think this is the place to address that.

Thanks, --I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 20:30, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, I wouldn't call my involvement in the article "significant" (I just did some copyediting, odds and ends, and GAN prosey things), but thanks for flattering me. ;) My only concern other than some minor prose things I'll fix myself is overlinking. For God's sake, why is "dead end" linked to a Wiktionary definition? Why is "railway line" linked? Why is "escapade" a Wiktionary link? Et cetera et cetera... Nousernamesleft (talk) 22:10, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I have fixed all that you have mentioned. --I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 22:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Better; thanks. Nousernamesleft (talk) 00:26, 9 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm doing some last-minute copyediting. When are you going to nominate it at FAC? Nousernamesleft (talk) 15:46, 13 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not sure if that will ever happen, as per this FAC. Your friend Eddy of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 16:36, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Rubbish. Checking every single source will no doubt be difficult, but certainly not impossible. I could help, if you'd like, before FAC - simply email me any PDFs you have; I'm literate in French at a passable level (and plus I'm capable of using a dictionary). If a source is simply unavailable, that could be a problem, but I doubt that any source that couldn't be found in a university's library would contain information that's vital for the article. Nousernamesleft (talk) 02:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to copyedit the article when I returned from India - that would be sometime after the 20th. Awadewit (talk) 04:20, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments on the lead

Refs [2] and [3] are not in cite web format
- In this case, they could not work properly. Your friend Eddy O. D. Wiki^{[citation needed]} 00:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Why not? I don't see any problem. In any case they are identical citations, following so closely togethet that a single citation would surely do. Brianboulton (talk) 11:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - Huh? they are most certainly not identical. They wouln't work using Cite web because the "Handloff (ed.)" and "in Ivory Coast: A Country Study" would not show up. Your friend Eddy O. D. Wiki^{[citation needed]} 19:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - No, they're not identical, merely similar - sorry. But the cite web format works OK, as in this: Handloff, Robert E. (ed). "Relations with Israel in Ivory Coast: A Country Study". Library of Congress. Retrieved 2008-07-28. {{cite web}}: |first= has generic name (help). There's no requirement from WP:CITE to use the cite web template, but you do so elsewhere in the article and there should be consistency. Brianboulton (talk) 13:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        Okay; done. Your friend Eddy O. D. Wiki^{[citation needed]} 22:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest that the stuff about building the largest church is a fairly small detail in a very long presidency, and not worth mentioning in the lead. The lead is too long anyway, and in my opinion needs to lose 50 to 100 words.
- The church is actually HB's greatest legacy, and I think should stay in the lead. I'll try to shorten it a bit, but this a a very massive article which needs a decent intro. Your friend Eddy O. D. Wiki^{[citation needed]} 00:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - If it really is his "greatest legacy", that fact ought to be stated, and cited. Otherwise it looks like rather a random fact inserted into the lead. I agree that an important article like this needs a decent introduction, but it needn't be an overlong one. Brianboulton (talk) 11:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - Hmm. I thought I saw that somewhere, but nonetheless, it was an important fact of HB's presidency. Your friend Eddy O. D. Wiki^{[citation needed]} 19:27, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - Issue resolved by reconstruction of lead section.Brianboulton (talk) 13:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try to make some further helpful comments on the rest of the text, but I'd like to wait for the copyedit. Brianboulton (talk) 22:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Ealdgyth (talk · contribs)

You said you wanted to know what to work on before taking to FLC, so I looked at the sourcing and referencing with that in mind. I reviewed the article's sources as I would at FAC. (Bear in mind that FAC and FLC might have differing requirements about where to put citations, but the reliability of sourcing should stay the same between the two processes.)
- Please put the language of the site when it isn't in English (current ref 72 or 101 are examples)
  - Done tose two. the editorofthewiki (talk/contribs/editor review) 20:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Make sure all your subscription sites have notes on the refs saying that they require one.
  - Be specific... I'm ever so lazy. the editorofthewiki (talk/contribs/editor review) 20:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hope this helps. Please note that I don't watchlist Peer Reviews I've done. If you have a question about something, you'll have to drop a note on my talk page to get my attention. (My watchlist is already WAY too long, adding peer reviews would make things much worse.) Note that I did not evaluate the non-English sources. 14:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)