Wikipedia:Peer review/Georgia Institute of Technology/archive1
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This article is the main focus of WP:TECH and a GA candidate. GA has a month-long backlog, so I figured I'd ask for suggestions here. As my ultimate goal is to make this article a Featured Article, what can I do to improve it to (or at least nearer to) FA quality? Thanks. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 02:04, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
A few general suggestions:
"Rocky Mountain Pizza, Peachtree Tavern, and Moondogs are all very popular student spots." This sentence seems POV or some kind of advertising plug. Delete it outright or reference it if you can. And you probably should de-redlink "Rocky Mountain Pizza" to discourage recreation.(deleted outright)Student life, Campus, and Athletics could all use a few more references, especially where citation needed tags are present.Campus seems a little listy, but I know that is hard to avoid.Create a small paragraph outlining the most famous alumni and why they are famous.A editor made me take most external links off the RPI page. Apparently per WP:EL external links should be used sparingly. This article looks pretty good, but you might want to remove a few from #Satellite CampusesMove, resize or even possibly remove a picture so there is not a large gap in the article.I resized them. Did that fix the problem?#profile Seems like an unnecessary header.
Thats all I can think of right now, otherwise I'd say this is well on it's way to GA status. Danski14 04:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- How should I link the "Popular Culture" subsection? It feels a little awkward at the moment. Perhaps a See also subsection with links to the primary subarticles (GT People, History of GT, GT Traditions, GT Yellow Jackets, Popular Culture) is in order? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 05:38, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, that seems like the best idea for now. They aren't notable enough popular culture references to create a small paragraph in the main article. I might also suggest a navigation template, but that would quite an undertaking considering how many Georgia Tech articles there are. Still, it could be done.. Rutgers University seems to have a huge nav box at the bottom. Another big one is at The University of Chicago. Danski14 06:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- I added the "see also" section. A navbox is probably a good idea, but I'm not impressed with the ones I've seen so far. They all end up being too bulky for my tastes. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 06:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, that seems like the best idea for now. They aren't notable enough popular culture references to create a small paragraph in the main article. I might also suggest a navigation template, but that would quite an undertaking considering how many Georgia Tech articles there are. Still, it could be done.. Rutgers University seems to have a huge nav box at the bottom. Another big one is at The University of Chicago. Danski14 06:08, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Do you have any suggestions as to which alumni to include in the summary paragraph? How many? Etc. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 07:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe a sentence on Jimmy Carter, a sentence or two about the Nobel Laureates, a sentence about the astronauts / participators in the space program, and possibly a sentence about the CEOs and the major companies they led. Danski14 21:55, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- While I haven't written that paragraph yet, I did entirely rewrite the alumni article: List of Georgia Institute of Technology alumni. I figured it was important to know who went to the school before I wrote about them. :) —Disavian (talk/contribs) 18:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Wow! Nice job. Those tables are really spiffy. Danski14 00:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- They were a bit of a pain, until I shoved all of the details into a few templates. I shamelessly stole the format and underlying code from List of Dartmouth College alumni, a featured list. The hardest part is finding the damn references. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 00:55, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- Wow! Nice job. Those tables are really spiffy. Danski14 00:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- While I haven't written that paragraph yet, I did entirely rewrite the alumni article: List of Georgia Institute of Technology alumni. I figured it was important to know who went to the school before I wrote about them. :) —Disavian (talk/contribs) 18:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Overall a solid article and good candidate for GA. My recommendations:
Remove rankings from lead. I would recommend confining these and any mention of rankings to a single section in "Academics."Remove bullet points in "Student Life" and convert to standard paragraph.Expand the Alumni section from the current summary-style-stub, but proceed carefully and avoid cruft.- Expand research to describe major programs or discoveries
- It would do well to incorporate some sort of map or more explicit description of how the four parts of campus are related to each other.
Citations are a little bit lacking in many areas (but good use of existing citation templates)The history section is a little jarring as every section seems to revert back to the founding, then jumps ahead several decades to some other event or turning point. Make it more consistent and linear and incorporate more of the major events that have happened between founding and present and their effect on campus (Reconstruction racial tensions, World Wars, Cold War research infusion, Civil rights movement, Vietnam protests & counterculture, increasing acceptance/resistance to corporate funding of research, role & impact of 90s tech boom, etc).
Madcoverboy 05:33, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- I've always struggled with writing leads, do you have any advice on what to include in that lead? —Disavian (talk/contribs) 13:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
- By the way, it's been a GA for a while; the next goal is obviously FA. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 13:22, 14 April 2007 (UTC)