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Hermano Pule

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I've listed this article for peer review because it is currently a good article, and I intend to improve it enough to become a featured article candidate.

Thanks, Jollibinay (talk) 08:14, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Scribolt

Please note, that I'm not reviewing to FA/GA standards, just some prose comments. I saw this on peer review, interesting read. I've made copy edits directly in the text for you to consider, amend or reject and additional points below.

Would it be helpful to define what a cofradia is when the term appears in the lede? I linked to Cofraternity, but maybe a bracketed explanation in the text would be good as well.

the cofradía transferred to Majayjay. Does this mean physically re-located? Or something else?

Hermano Pule immediately sent a letter to Archbishop José Seguí in Manila rebuking the acts of the Tayabas friars. Immediately after what? The transfer in early 1841? Or the arrests in October 1840?

The 1841 Alitao massacre became a controversial issue in Manila - Maybe explain what controversial means in this context?

In terms of structure, The Aftermath and Legacy is mostly to do with the events following from the suppression of the cofradia, whilst the legacy is more focused on Hermano Pule the man. You might want to think about reorganizing a little so the social impact of the suppression are separated a bit from the personal biography. Not quite sure how you'd do that, but just a thought.

Scribolt (talk) 09:00, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review User:Scribolt. I really appreciate your time and efforts for the review and copy edits.

Would it be helpful to define what a cofradia is when the term appears in the lede? I linked to Cofraternity, but maybe a bracketed explanation in the text would be good as well.

I changed it to "...was a Filipino religious leader who founded and led the Cofradía de San José (Confraternity of St. Joseph)." Is this better? I also put a wikilink on "Confraternity".

the cofradía transferred to Majayjay. Does this mean physically re-located? Or something else?

Most of the members physically re-located to Majayjay (the next town).

Hermano Pule immediately sent a letter to Archbishop José Seguí in Manila rebuking the acts of the Tayabas friars. Immediately after what? The transfer in early 1841? Or the arrests in October 1840?

Based on Palafox (2012), it's after the the arrests in October 1840.

The 1841 Alitao massacre became a controversial issue in Manila - Maybe explain what controversial means in this context?

Martinez (1999) used the term "cause célèbre". Martinez (1999) wrote that "flyers criticizing the government's actions were circulated" and that "The Real Audiencia blamed de Oraá". Although it's not good to assume, based on Philippine history, there would be people who would've sided with the government on the issue. Some people were for it, others were against it.

In terms of structure, The Aftermath and Legacy is mostly to do with the events following from the suppression of the cofradia, whilst the legacy is more focused on Hermano Pule the man. You might want to think about reorganizing a little so the social impact of the suppression are separated a bit from the personal biography. Not quite sure how you'd do that, but just a thought.

I actually tried to do that while working for he GA status. However, I find it quite difficult since the books that I've cited always mix the cofradía and Hermano Pule, that's why the article ended up like this. The best I could think of was writing four subsections.

Jollibinay (talk) 06:23, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]