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Lenox Square

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I've listed this article for peer review because I am looking for other opinion as to any improves I need to make on this article. I would like to nominate it for GA status soon, and although it has some ways to go, I think I'll be able to do it.

Thanks, DAP388 (talk) 00:44, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: Thanks for your work on this, but the article needs a lot of work before it would have a chance at GAN. In its current state it would be a quick fail, so here are some suggestions for improvement.

• A model article is useful for ideas and examples to follow. There are 5 good articles at Category:GA-Class Shopping center articles which would be useful models.
• There is a toolbox on this page in the upper right corner. It shows that there are three disambiguation links that need to be resolved - see here
• The toolbox also shows that there is one dead external link that needs to be fixed - see here
• The references are the biggest problem with the article as it now stands. The first problem is that the article needs more references, for example the second paragraph of Renovations has no refs, and the last sentence of the third paragraph there also needs a ref.
• My rule of thumb is that every quote, every statistic, every extraordinary claim and every paragraph needs a ref.
• The current references do not provide the information needed to check the sources. For example one ref is just shown as www.time.com and is a link to the cover of an issue - which article in that issue is cited?
• Internet refs need URL, title, author if known, publisher and date accessed. {{cite web}} and other cite templates may be helpful. See WP:CITE and WP:V
• The references cited do not back up the information provided in some cases. I checked these two sentences: Visited by more than 35 million people a year, Lenox Square is one of the most popular and profitable retail centers in the United States.[16] Together with Phipps Plaza, an estimated $1 billion was pumped into the local economy in 2007.[17]
  • Current ref 16 makes no mention of Lenox Square and a map of malls served by this shopping mall add business does not show any locations in Georgia. So even though there is a ref, it does not back up the extraordinary statement made.
    • I also do not see what makes this ref (assuming somehow mentions Lenox Square and I missed it) as reliable source.
  • Current ref 17 is to a book (Frommer's Guide to Atlanta) but the page shown does not mention Phipps Plaza at all, and though it mentions Lenox Square, it is only to locate bookstores in relation to it.
• Even where the ref does back up the material in the article, it is not necessarily accurate. For example the article says Several items were proposed on the site, including three statues, a pedestrian bridge linking Lenox Square with neighboring shopping center Phipps Plaza, and a discothèque.[1] These plans, however, would never materialize. The property was bought and acquired by Noble Properties in 1956.[2] This makes it sounds lkike these were plans for the land BEFORE Lenox Square was built and that the mall took the place of these plans. However, checking ref 1, the three statues were there for the opening of the mall, and one of them still exists. The other attractions seem to be things planned for the mall itself.
• There is no background on what was at the site before the mall, but ref 1 does list some of this information.
• There is no date for the first major exapansion / rewnovation (enclosing the mall).
• Language is pretty rough in spots and needs a copyedit, though fix the other problems first.
• Please make sure that the existing text includes no copyright violations, plagiarism, or close paraphrasing. For more information on this please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches. (This is a general warning given in all peer reviews, in view of previous problems that have risen over copyvios.)

Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 17:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC)