Wikipedia:Peer review/List of God of War characters/archive1
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I've listed this article for peer review because I would like to find out what is working for the article, what the peer reviewers think should be fixed, what they think of the characters description (it currently lists their chronological appearance in the games/comics, is this okay?), and anything else the peer reviewer thinks would help this article to become an overall better article. Also, what does the peer reviewer think of the lead? Another editor thinks it should only be one sentence that says it's a list of the characters and that's it.
Thanks, JDC808 (talk) 21:11, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hello JDC808. Since you requested me to peer review this, I'll begin my review here. First of all, let me say that this article needs quite a lot of work. It has only 1 inline citation, which is a poor thing. I'll request you to add more inline citations to make this article eligible for a FL. Next, most of the other references are from IMDB, which isn't completely a reliable source. Please find other reliable references. I'd suggest having few images in the lead section. It becomes boring (completely, IMO) to scroll down a big list without having any images. I see one image present, I'd suggest moving that in the lead. I'd prefer if you'd have this article for a short copyedit before nominating it at FLC. If these issues are cleared I hope that this will be a FL. Regards, Dipankan (Have a chat?) 06:19, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Half done I've gotten more images throughout the page. Will now search for more reliable sources. JDC808 (talk) 07:35, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Also, are you doing the inline citations? I don't see that yet? Remember: Inline citations are very important for any "featured" item, so it would be better if you add more inline citations first. Dipankan (Have a chat?) 10:13, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- You don't see them yet because I haven't done them yet lol. I was going to do them last night but I was too tired. I'm going to do inline citation once I find some reliable sources. JDC808 (talk) 04:19, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Done I've gotten 34 (hopefully reliable) sources using inline citation. JDC808 (talk) 07:24, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- You don't see them yet because I haven't done them yet lol. I was going to do them last night but I was too tired. I'm going to do inline citation once I find some reliable sources. JDC808 (talk) 04:19, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Quick comments
- First up, have a quick look at my checklist, it's here. It shows you all the "obvious" things to address in any list before taking it to WP:FLC. It doesn't guarantee success but it'll certainly smooth the passage.
- Will look into. Thanks for the link.
- Avoid bold links in the lead, per WP:CONTEXTLINK.
- Done JDC808 (talk) 07:45, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Check that you're not using spaced hyphens, but spaced en-dashes per WP:DASH.
- Done
- As noted above there's a serious lack of inline citations which are expected at FLC, or any other featured process for that matter.
- Done
- Check image captions - those which aren't complete sentences should not have full stops.
- Done JDC808 (talk) 07:48, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- I take by IMBD you mean Internet Movie Database? That's not usually considered a reliable source so you may need to look around for something more suitable.
- Yes for IMBD, which has been removed. Source issue noted above. JDC808 (talk) 07:54, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Also, if Giant Bomb is a wiki then it may not be considered reliable either since content is not controlled editorially.
- Done Removed.
The Rambling Man (talk) 10:19, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Tintor2 (talk) 12:21, 14 June 2012 (UTC) Since I agree with the things mentioned by The Rambling Man, I'll just add
- There are various FLC characters list like Characters of Final Fantasy XII that could be used as examples to used regarding citations and style.
- Will check it out.
- There are multiple non-free images that only illustrate one character. Replacing them with a groupal would pass WP:Non free content
- I've been trying to search for a group image but all I've been able to find is the one of the five gods.
- The article also lacks a creation and a reception section.
- Half done The page now has a "Concept and creation" section. "Reception" coming. JDC808 (talk) 01:15, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
- Comment
Fictional or mythical gods should be in lower case, unless there is a good reason.--GoPTCN 15:15, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, I see, you capitalize if a proper noun... Sorry.--GoPTCN 15:19, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment: So how can we list the enemies of the God of War franchise like how it was planned on the character page's talk page? Also, I managed to align the character pictures with their bio if that is OK with you. Rtkat3 (talk) 6:43, January 14 2012 (UTC)
- The images except Gaia (which she was close to her listing in that particular section) were aligned with their bios (at least on my screen). Gaia was placed in the Titans section to represent the Titans and to not put two images in one small section. I'm not sure about the other characters. I don't know if they would be suitable for FL. JDC808 (talk) 04:29, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Comment: there are a few too many images, including an unnecessary pic right at the top, which is rather intrusive. Names also need to be linked.
- I can agree that the names can be linked in the caption of the images. If there is a majority vote to remove the "unnecessary" image, then it will be removed. However, as it stands, it is the only group image that we have (and have managed to find without creating using photoshop or some other tool). I don't know what you find intrusive about it. Also, if the image is artwork of the character, it should be noted in the caption of the image.
The link for the series also needs to stay as the information goes hand in hand with this list.
- It is unneccessary as it is already linked in the first few words of the very first sentence of the lead. Take a note from other character pages. They do not put the link as you're suggesting.
The opening paragraphs should speak in accurate, general terms about the characters, with the prime focus being Kratos. All the previous links have been added to what is a comprehensive list of related products, and features a quote.
- The lead should have an emphasis on Kratos, but should not be the prime focus per se. There's already an entire article dedicated to him. You have also reduced the lead greatly and removed valid information in comparison to other character page articles. JDC808 (talk) 03:07, 18 June 2012 (UTC)