Wikipedia:Peer review/List of Oh My Goddess! episodes/archive1
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I just finished writing up the last episode summary on this page. This is a slightly odd request... It's a blend between an episode list and transcluded list. I'm looking to move this back up to FL (as it is a delisted FL), so all comments are appreciated.
At this time, my major concerns lie in the layout of the page as I am unsure if I have made the page correctly. It does not follow the same format as the transcluded lists, which is a source of concern for me. Additionally, I positive that this needs a thorough copyedit. Finally, if there is any information that needs to be added (I've got the oddest feeling that I'm missing something crucial from the lead), please inform me.
Thanks, NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 05:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Resolved comments
- Yes, you're missing something crucial in the lead. You know... supporting material? :)
- Added in refs. Let me know if more are needed. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 22:21, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Refs (almost) never hurt, but that's not what I meant with "supporting material". The article has no illustrations. You'll be hard pressed to find a FL without any kind of image. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- I'm thinking to just drop the logo of the Ah! My Goddess series. How does that sound to you? NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 02:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Added. I will fix the FUR now. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 02:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Well, logos... The primary purpose of the lead image is to identify the subject. Most readers can't read Hiragana, Katakana, and Kanji. This logo contains all three. (The part written in roman letters is, in my browser at least, even smaller than the normal text.) In this case, if it has to be a logo, use the English one, if it exists. -- Goodraise (talk) 05:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- The only place I could find an English logo was on a DVD (since the series was never aired on U.S. television). That being said, I would have to go and clean out the background from the DVD to get a clean version of the logo. I can certainly do this, but I am unsure if this is suggested or even allowed. Additionally, since the English logo is very light, it would be harder to view even if I did manage to strip off the background. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 20:12, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Any editing to non-free images that goes beyond cropping is inadvisable. How about using the logo part from this VHS cover? (In this case, rotating it by 90 degrees would be acceptable.) -- Goodraise (talk) 21:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Done. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 03:52, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- The table transcluded from List of Ah! My Goddess episodes (season 1) uses a different color in its headder.
- Fixed. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 20:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- The see also section is redudnant to the nav. box.
- Removed. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 20:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- (You've got a transcluded note, but no notes section.)
- Added. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 20:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- You might want to note in the OVA section, that there is more OVAs in other sections.
- Not sure what you mean. The "OVA" was another TV series separate from the OVAs of Ah! My Goddess and Flights of Fancy. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 20:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Well, it kind of suggests, that that section contains all OVAs. Perhaps you could rename it to "OVA series"? -- Goodraise (talk) 23:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- BTW, its "original video animation", with no caps, unless it stands at the beginning of a headding or sentence. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:47, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- All fixed. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 02:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Layout seems fine to me.
- Alright, sounds good to me! NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 20:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- I also don't get what you mean with "[i]t does not follow the same format as the transcluded lists".
- If the layout looks fine to you, then ignore my comment. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 20:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Feature films aren't normally covered in episode lists, not even mentioned.
- Removed. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 20:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- The lead might be able to use a summary of the theme music used.
- Unfortunately, I have absolutely no idea how to summarize the theme music. I'll think about it a bit more and try later, but I promise nothing. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 22:21, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Here is a good and recent example. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:25, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Added info. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 02:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- You might also want to mention important staff members aside from the manga author (director, composer, ...).
- Directors are mentioned in each section's lead. Are composers relevant? NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 22:21, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Depends on the composer. If John Williams composed the score for Adventures of Mini-Goddess, you'll want to mention that. ;) Someone would also deserve a mention in the lead, if they directed/composed/... for all or almoast all of the series. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:32, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm, composers aren't famous at all, but I've added a mention of the director Hiroaki Gōda to the lead. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 02:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sources look good.
- Actually, you're citing Amazon and the ANN encyclopedia a lot. You're probably aware it, but I'll note it anyways: They aren't top notch sources. If they can be replaced, which they probably can't, considering the age of the series, they should be. -- Goodraise (talk) 23:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yea, I wish there were other sources, but as you know, those are the best reliable sources I can find. If you've found anything in your time here that can replace those, let me know. I'd be happy to replace them. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 02:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- 12.5 breaks the color alternation. Complaints go to Dinoguy1000 (talk · contribs).
- I will ask him about it, as I have absolutely zero idea as to how to fix that. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 20:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Aside from that and presuming that a good and serious copyedit will take place, I don't see why this should not pass a FLC. Good work. -- Goodraise (talk) 04:32, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! I continue to pursue a solution to the color issue with Dinoguy1000 and I am looking for a copyeditor now. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 04:55, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Comment Why is this "Oh My Goddess" instead of "Ah My Goddess"? Dabomb87 (talk) 01:11, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- The manga series and the original OVA are titled "Oh My Goddess!". Since there are so many names for the seasons (including the grammatically incorrect "The Adventures of Mini-Goddess"), I went with the name of the original manga. NOCTURNENOIR ( t • c ) 01:12, 15 February 2009 (UTC)