Wikipedia:Peer review/List of cities in Uttar Pradesh/archive1
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I've listed this article for peer review because I've improved this article a lot and looking for it to become GA FA. Thanks, 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 17:15, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
To my knowledge we don't have good article lists it would be a featured article list. Initial glance looks good, will look into it in the next few days.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:35, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
What I'd recommend is a large map and to try to feature as many cities on it as you can see this example of England and rugby clubs. Also you do is switch map to Uttar Pradesh and enter the relevant coordinates and then city label. 67 labels on one map might look bloated but you could certainly feature the top 10-20 cities on it. I'll request an svg map.
- Comments:
In the lead, it says UP is divided into three geographic regions, but mentions oh two (southern,hills andmgangetic plain).
Done
It says Kanpur is the largest city, but it does not mention the size, rather the population,is mentioned.
Done
The third paragraph of the section " Census of UP" starts with " The social and political tensions...". What tensions? No tension or tension-like scenario has been mentioned or later.
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In the same section, first paragraph says the rate of population growth in 1991-2001 was 25.8%. But in the next paragraph the decennial growth rate for 1991-2001 is mentioned as 17.8%. Are the population growth rate and decennial growth rate different measurements? If yes, it needs explanation and/or wiki link.
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The article is on the cities of UP, but the map depicts the districts.--Dwaipayan (talk) 18:13, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Not done Perhaps there is no map named cities of uttar pradesh.I dont know how to create it also.25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 15:10, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- Comments from TD
Greetings,
- Introduction of Cities of Uttar Pradesh by population section needs minor copyedit. This senetence As per census data 2011, the total population of Uttar Pradesh is: 199,581,477 is almost same in lead and here (in a short article)
- For some reason (background color) I can not see sortable arrows!
- Table header– Population below 5 years"– what is population below 5 years?
- Literacy rate column–83.98 etc, per cent? Can be mentioned in column header.
- Urban Agglomeration–Change case to "Urban agglomeration" and link the article.
- For BPL, this article can be linked directly Below Poverty Line (India)
That's all for now. These are just opinions. You may ignore some or all of these.
Best,
Tito Dutta ✉ 21:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
Done Thanks Tito. But i didnt get For some reason (background color) I can not see sortable arrows! this question.Please be quite descriptive."Population below 5 years" means children's population who are blow 5 years in age. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 15:10, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
- 25 Cents FC has done a commendable job in developing the article/ list. However, I feel that the deletion of the section on Urban Agglomeration has created an information gap. I feel that the information on constituents of Urban Agglomerations is essential. It is desirable that the same should be restored. This may please be considered. - Chandan Guha (talk) 04:23, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
- Comments from Indopug
I look forward to seeing this at WP:FLC (lists are not eligible for GA and FA), but I feel there's some work to be done.
- You can find model list articles at Wikipedia:Featured_lists#Settlements.
- Looking at one of those, List of cities and towns in Arizona, it's clear that the article for the UP needs to be rewritten. The lead here discusses of UP as a whole, as opposed to its cities specifically.
- I also wonder how that Census section is relevant here. It talks of population growth-rates and caste distributions across UP but nothing of its cities and municipal corporations. Again, you can refer to the model articles.
- Why list the cities by population? If you make the table sortable, the reader can sort it per his requirement.
- The table too I feel overemphasises the population aspect. There are five population-related columns, but none for the size or area of the city itself. Remember this article is not "Demographic details of cities in Uttar Pradesh".
- What are the definitions of city, urban agglomeration and census town?
- Why use the international numbering system instead of lakhs and crores in an India-related article? (no hurry to change this; better cross-check what WP:MOS has to say about this)
- Is there scope for extending this article to include smaller towns and maybe villages as well?
- Why is there a separate list of urban agglomerations constituents in Uttar Pradesh article? Isn't it redundant to this?
You've done an excellent job on this article (I look to seeing many more!) and I hope you aren't disheartened by my comments. But the fact is, if you want featured status, basic questions will definitely be asked. Better now than at FLC is what I feel. (Aside: I think you accidentally overwrote a couple of comments of Titodutta in an edit conflict; there's a suggestion about how to make a cities-map there.)—indopug (talk) 05:20, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Reply to Indopug
Thanks for attention indopug.I'll try to answer your all query one by one.
- Actually i referred List of states in India by past population (its also having FA status).State is very populated and mostly known for its population.Added Census section because western reader will get to know how census done in state.section also explains castes that exits in state, also poverty etc.
- Basically it's city not census town.I've fixed this.
- People who live in Israel,United Kingdom or in Canada wont understand what lakhs and crores means.So international numbering system has been used.As far as in indian diaspora concern they understand million or billion.
- I actually dont feel article to include smaller towns and villages,through this article will become long.
- Lead discusses UP so that reader dont have to visit UP article separately.
- list of urban agglomerations constituents in Uttar Pradesh is totally different as it depicts developments that has to be done in city but this article only says about cities of UP.
I've tried but there maybe possibility that i'm missing something.Please let me know.25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 16:11, 23 October 2012 (UTC)