Wikipedia:Peer review/List of people from Cardiff/archive1
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I've listed this article for peer review because I'm looking to get this to Featured List standard and would like to get an outside opinion on it before submitting it for review.
Thanks, ★ Bald Zebra ★ talk 14:45, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
- Comments
- There was a similar, unfortunately failed List of athletes from Montana. I think creating such tables would be a good idea, and I am sure many would wish that plain lists were sortable tables.
- Looks good overall. Pictures seem to meet the image criteria
- Some general work is needed describing the people, eg Goscombe John is a sculptor, but the list does not mention it.
- Some small MOS issues, like unitalicized TV shows, eg QI and I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue
- Make sure that every member of a band was born or shares a strong association with the city
- If you have "Politics", then I think "Sport" should be "Sports"
- I know that football is football, but I recommend changing to "Association football"--Tomcat (7) 12:31, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comments. I have toyed with the idea of a table - this is currently in progress at User:Bald Zebra/Cardiff people, using the Sortname template to sort by surname rather by first name. Question is, one big table with a "Field" column (like in the example), or split it into fields as it is on the list right now? Some of the descriptions will be expanded beyond a single word.
- With regards to the bands, the only one which doesn't actually come from (or was formed in) Cardiff are the Manic Street Preachers, but they are commonly acknowledged as being part of the local scene (this is shown on the reference). Would you say this was enough for inclusion in the list?
- I don't know about the rest of the world but in British English, "Sport" is often used in the singular while "Politics" is always plural.
- ★ Bald Zebra ★ talk 13:17, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- Regarding the fields, I say keep it as is, but probably someone won't like that system at FLC. If there will be enough space, then you could create another column for that information. About the bands, I am not sure, but I would say remove everyone in the list that was not born or raised in Cardiff. It is confusing because the list does not note if an individual was born, raised or have strong ties with the city. I mean, include only "the sons and daughters" of Cardiff, the other people could be excluded. Also, worth adding {{Dynamic list}} at the top? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 09:23, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- I definitely think you're right about keeping the list split in its current sections (perhaps amalgamating "Nobility" into "Historical Figures") as having a single table would be way too long - a comparable example would the the various "List of awards and nominations" tables, which are split into sections. And that's a fair comment about only including those people actually born or raised in the city. My only query would be Aulus Didius Gallus - he wasn't born in the city but he has very a strong connection with it as it was long-thought that the city was actually named after him. Do you reckon that would be a good enough reason to keep him on this list? ★ Bald Zebra ★ talk 10:21, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think that he should be included, because it seems Cardiff did not exist at that time. And that the city was named after him is not a clear fact. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 11:44, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- You're right, it's best to keep the inclusion criteria simple. I've deleted him and a couple of others and I'll give it a full sweep once I've finished tabulating the list. ★ Bald Zebra ★ talk 12:57, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- I don't think that he should be included, because it seems Cardiff did not exist at that time. And that the city was named after him is not a clear fact. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 11:44, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
- I definitely think you're right about keeping the list split in its current sections (perhaps amalgamating "Nobility" into "Historical Figures") as having a single table would be way too long - a comparable example would the the various "List of awards and nominations" tables, which are split into sections. And that's a fair comment about only including those people actually born or raised in the city. My only query would be Aulus Didius Gallus - he wasn't born in the city but he has very a strong connection with it as it was long-thought that the city was actually named after him. Do you reckon that would be a good enough reason to keep him on this list? ★ Bald Zebra ★ talk 10:21, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
- Regarding the fields, I say keep it as is, but probably someone won't like that system at FLC. If there will be enough space, then you could create another column for that information. About the bands, I am not sure, but I would say remove everyone in the list that was not born or raised in Cardiff. It is confusing because the list does not note if an individual was born, raised or have strong ties with the city. I mean, include only "the sons and daughters" of Cardiff, the other people could be excluded. Also, worth adding {{Dynamic list}} at the top? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 09:23, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Well it took a few days, but I've finished converting the lists to sortable tables. ★ Bald Zebra ★ talk 15:18, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Could you include a photo of George Whitcombe from his Wikipedia page in his welsh jersey?