Wikipedia:Peer review/Nashville Sounds seasons/archive1

Nashville Sounds seasons

• A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style; it can be found on the automated peer review page for July 2008.
  • DONE -NatureBoyMD (talk) 16:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because I'd like to make it a Featured List. Please respond with any suggestions for the list concerning ease of use/understanding, clarity, format, etc.

Thanks, NatureBoyMD (talk) 02:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: Very briefly, here are some suggestions for improvement. If you want more comments, please ask here.

• Needs a copyedit - it is a "berth" in the postseason, not a "birth". I would also link Nashville in the lead somewhere.
  • DONE - NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
• Last sentence of the first paragraph needs a ref. I owuld also format the references consistenly - spell out access date, put p. in front of pages. The use of {{cite web}} may be help.
  • DONE -NatureBoyMD (talk) 23:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• How about a table of major league affiliations or including this in the existing tables?
  • DONE - Integrated with main table -NatureBoyMD (talk) 23:44, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
• Season-by-season attendance records table needs a ref
  • DONE - Attendance info is gone. NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:08, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Killervogel5

Review by Killervogel5

I'll do this like a straight FL review.

• Having the tables centered isn't going to work with the current FL standards. The tables should be left-aligned.
  • DONE -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
• Starting the lead with "This is a list..." is going to need to be changed.
  • Done - I reworded that part. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
• As for the tables, I think that the affiliations table could be turned into footnotes or a column in the table, rather than its own tables. This is a very interesting article because it's a minor league team. We don't run into this with the major league season lists, of course. The attendance table is, IMO, extraneous. It's not included in any other FLs, but if it were going to be, it should be listed in the regular table as well.
• The hyphens used to represent 0s or blank cells should be replaced by em-dashes.
  • DONE -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
• FL reviewers are also going to ask for sorting (usually it's me asking for it). I would think about maybe splitting the tables into individual tables by league. I know you have the headers and such in there, and it's easily split into three smaller tables at the league switches.
  • DONE -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
• Why does "Division and Conference Champions" not have a color?
  • DONE - It did, but I left out a hex digit. It displayed properly in IE 7, but not Firefox. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
• Since there are complete articles for the Nashville Sounds seasons, they should be used in the lead for stand-alone years instead of linking to "year in baseball".
  • DONE - NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
• Post-season should be linked to the baseball section of the article playoff, and it should be linked at its first occurrence (currently second).
  • DONE - NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
• "The club's thirteen years..." should be 13.
  • DONE - NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:15, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
• Additional comments: Having two columns named "Finish" will probably be an FL conflict. I would rename them "League" and "Division".
  • DONE -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
• Why no sorts in the three middle columns?
  • DONE - Sorts added. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
• I think for the Games Back column that you should use whole numbers and fractions instead of decimals.
  • DONE -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
• I really like the new changes.
• Thanks! -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I've done a baseball season FL myself, so if you have any questions, please ask. Hope I helped, and hope to see this list at FLC too! KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 13:21, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I am now very impressed with this list. I really like the way it's laid out; the last concern I have is the affiliations being merged into the main tables. If you'd like me to do it (I usually set them up colored and abbreviated), I could take care of that. Let me know here or on my talk page. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 17:23, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

There's also a problem with the sorting; I can help you fix that as well if you need help. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 17:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure of the best way to integrate affiliations. I'd appreciate it if you'd do it. What is the sorting problem? -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I will take care of the former problem after I get home today. As for the latter, the finishes sort 1, 12, 13, 14, 2, 3, 4... etc. It happens. There is a help section on sorting. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 17:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I see. There is also a problem with the GB columns. I looked at the help section, but it left me utterly confused. Your help here will be greatly appreciated. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:40, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Check it out, it should work now. Affiliates have been included but I couldn't get them colored the way I wanted. No big deal. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 22:12, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

It looks good. Thanks for your help. What do you think about the references? Are the sources acceptable? The team article FAC ran into some problems with too may refs coming from the team's website or media guide and refs from The Baseball Cube. I still have a little work to do on them. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 17:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Only 3 refs out of 19 from official sources is perfectly fine with me. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 19:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

• One more quick thing: FL reviewers will bust you down for your opening sentence. The "this list" sentence should be moved later on in the lead paragraph or removed altogether (see Philadelphia Phillies seasons for an example). Let me know when you take this to FL on my talk. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 23:48, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

• DONE - I reworded the lead prose. Thanks for the heads-up, your other comments, and help with the tables. I'll be sure to let you know when I nominate it. I want to wait for the end of the season and a pass/fail decision on the team article FAC first. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 00:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)