Wikipedia:Peer review/Nationalization of history/archive1
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I've listed this article for peer review because I am very unexperienced user on en wiki (this article is first article I wrote on wikipedia on english language), I am amateur in history and I feel that I need help with improving and expanding this article to the level that its topic deserves because of its importance and actuallity. I think article could be improved in lede and subtitle with legacy.
Thanks, Antidiskriminator (talk) 17:42, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Ruhrfisch comments: Thanks for your work on this article, here are some suggestions for improvement, assuming it is not merged into another article.
- I have some concerns about this article - at the top of the article are two warning tags. One is that this is an orphan article, so few others link to it. This is not in and of itself a problem as many new articles are often orphans. Done The more serious concern is that there is a {{duplication}} tag, which is a major cleanup banner. Not done This, in and of itself, is enough to disqualify the article for peer review. Since I have already looked at it, I will still make a a few comments
- The Talk:Nationalization of history expresses the concern that this is a content fork and should perhaps be merged with the Historiography and nationalism article. I was curious so I checked out the first few references. The lead sentence has two references, but both make only limited mention of the terms "nationalization of history" and / or "Ethnicization of history" (note the correct spelling - there is a typo in the lead). Neither article includes the pharase in its title, for example. I have to say that I am not a historian, but given my limited knowledge, this looks like it could be a fork to me.
- Google Books searches were done in a Slavic language version of Google, so some of the terms found with the links are in Cyrillic and are not sueful for an English Wikipedia article. - Done
- I speak no Slavic languages (beyond "Pivo nie ma!" (no more beer!) in Polish) so I could not write anything in a Slavic language, but the English here has a lot of errors typical of something written by a non-native speaker. These include missing articles - for example the first sentence would read better as something like Nationalization of history or Ethnicizaction of history [1] is [the] term used in historiography to describe [the] process of separation of "one's own" history from [the] common universal history[,] by way of perceiving, understanding and treating the past that results with construction of history as history of a nation.[2] - Not done Done, but only for the first sentence.
- Superscripts for centuries are against the WP:MOS (just write "19th century") - Done
- The article uses both American (Nationalization) and British (civilisation) spellings - pick one and stick with it - Done
- The article has several short (one or two sentence) paragraphs and section, which interrupot the flow of the prose. These should wither be combinedwith others or expanded if possible. Doing...
- Watch WP:PEACOCK terms like masterpiece in First phase began at the middle of 19th century and reached its culmination in Mykhailo Hrushevsky's masterpiece “History of Ukraine - Rus". This is also a WP:NPOV issue - note if you quote a reliable source saying it is a materpiece, then that is more acceptable. Done
- There is a sandwich of text between two images at the bottom of the article, which WP:MOSIMAGE says to avoid. Done
- One of the sandwiching photos is of the Srebrenica Genocide stone and the other is of James Macpherson. Neither is mentioned anywhere else in the text that I could see - images should illustrate the text, and the subjects of images should be discussed in the text in some way. Done
- I do not think the See also section follows WP:See also - why the list of "Histories of nations"? The one I checked does not even include the word nationalization. Why were these links included and others not? Done - I deleted few selected nation histories.
Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 15:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Antidiskriminator's reply: Yes, your comments are, of course, very helpful both for me personally and for improving the article. I really appreciate your comments and time and energy that you spent to write them. Since I am creator and (till now) main contributor to this article, I need some time (a week or two, since I am going to be busy during next week) to carefully study your comments and to perform corresponding corrections and replies, since I am inexperienced user and English is obviously not my native language. I would appreciate if I can have this few weeks before making decision about eventual merging.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:08, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- The article has not been nominated for deletion or officially for merging (though it has been suggested that it be merged on the talk page). I do not plan to nominate it for deletion, but someone else may do so. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 23:59, 27 October 2010 (UTC)