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Space Invaders

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This is one of the Video games Project's top priority articles, and seeing as this year is the game's 30th anniversary, I'd like to go for FA. Any and all comments would be appreciated.

For those willing to go a bit deeper, I've had a little trouble with the "Re-releases and sequels" section. I know I'm missing some info from about the early 90s till mid-2000. However, I've also considered simply summarizing things a bit more to try to work around this. The section is already rather long anyway. Any thoughts, sources, comments, etc. in this area would be greatly appreciated. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 19:57, 5 August 2008 (UTC))

Ruhrfisch comments: Very briefly, here are some suggestions for improvement. If you want more comments, please ask here.

• This really looks good, except for the incomplete banner, I would say this looks fairly ready for FAC. Would it make any sense to divide the Re-releases and sequels section into arcade versions and personal system versions? That would make each subsection shorter and I was frankly a bit uncertain at times if an arcade version (drop a quarter) or a system version was being discussed.
• Make sure the references all meet WP:RS - I am not a video game person, but some of the internet sources are ones I have not heard of.
• I would be clearer in the lead - it caused a shortage of yen coins (100), not all yen. How many levels of aliens were there (or was it infinite)?
• Any reason why the Futurama epsidoe is spelled out in more detail than DangerMouse and the others?

Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the comments.

• I am still researching the various re-releases and sequels. Right now it's in chronological order, but I do think a different format would clarify things some. I'm currently working on a draft of a stand-alone list in my sandbox to better organize the info.
• I've tried to stay away from questionable internet sources and use links only from the major gaming networks.
• I've tweaked the info about the yen in the lead.
• I do not know how many levels are included in the game. I initially considered it a trivial detail. But if it is indefinite, I agree that should be mentioned. I'll look into it.
• The other TV episodes only contain a short 15–60 second reference to the game, while the Futurama episode includes a 5–6 minute segment which constantly references the game. I figured it would be best to organize it the way it is to avoid giving undue weight.

Thank you for the help. I'll continue to look into the re-release and sequel info, and the number of levels. Any other comments would be greatly appreciated. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 18:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC))

Regarding levels, it depends which version of the game. If you're talking about the original arcade version(s) (Space Invaders and Space Invaders deluxe), like all wave based games (if not all games) at the time, there is no "ending". Levels are infinite (although the score is often not). Games with an actual limit to levels by providing an ending came later. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 04:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Cool. Thank you. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 12:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC))

• Images
• Image:SpaceInvaders-Gameplay.gif - fill out the 'portion-used' field, and add a bit more on the resolution- state how much it was reduced from the original size, for example.
• Image:Space invaders avignon.jpg - marked as free; license present
• Image:Inv D playfield.jpg - marked as free; license present
• Image:Space Invaders cabinet at Lyme Regis.jpg - marked as free; license present
  • As per this Commons page, the cabinets have utilitarian aspects and thus cannot be copyrighted as such, so you should be fine. Make sure for all self-made uploads that there is a link to the author's page or email for WP:V purposes. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 21:08, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

    Much appreciated, I'll get on this. Thanks David. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 21:31, 20 August 2008 (UTC))

Comments from Ealdgyth (talk · contribs)

• You said you wanted to know what to work on before taking to FAC, so I looked at the sourcing and referencing with that in mind. I reviewed the article's sources as I would at FAC.
  • What makes the following sources reliable?
    • http://www.klov.com/

Hope this helps. Please note that I don't watchlist Peer Reviews I've done. If you have a question about something, you'll have to drop a note on my talk page to get my attention. (My watchlist is already WAY too long, adding peer reviews would make things much worse.) 22:58, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the review. The Killer List of Videogames has been covered by various entities.

• On their Updates page, then list being mentioned in two magazines: Games Magazine and Newsweek.
• Listed on Game Room Magazines' website as a video game resource
• Listed on Classic GameSpy under Community Links as containing "just about everything you'd want to know for just about any coin-op game."
• They've been cited on CNET Networks
• Also been cited on a syllabus for a Graduate Seminar on Socially Conscious Video Games at the University of Denver.

I hope that is satisfactory. Thanks again. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 07:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC))