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I've listed this article for peer review because the page has undegone a lot of work in recent months but has been unable to move past a "B" rating, I'm looking for input because I'm unsure what else to do.

Thanks, Jordo72 (talk) 16:51, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ruhrfisch comments: Thanks for your work on this article. Here are some suggestions for improvement with an eye to GAN.

  • First off, to get past B class, an article either has to go for WP:GA or WP:FA (or A-class, which is rare outside of military history). It is easier to pass GAN than FAC, but I do not see that this has ever been nominated for GA (it was nominated unsuccessfully for FA back in 2008). I will review this as if it were up at GAN.
  • Biggest problem with the article right now is references. First off many paragraphs have no refs and need them - look at the History section for example. My rule of thumb is that every quote, every statistic, every extraordinary claim and every paragraph needs a ref.
  • The refs that are used do not have enough information given. Internet refs need URL, title, author if known, publisher and date accessed. {{cite web}} and other cite templates may be helpful. See WP:CITE and WP:V
  • Some of the refs look like the may not be to reliable sources - what makes tourcanada.com a reliable source, for example?
  • The external link checker tool on this page (Toolbox) finds about 9 dead external links (refs) that are dead and need to be fixed. All of these ref problems would be a quick fail at GAN.
  • The disambig links tool also finds some dabs that need to be fixed.
  • For prose, spell out abbreviations on first use. So "Census Metropolitan Area (CMA)"
  • The article has several short (one or two sentence) paragraphs that interrupt the flow of the prose and should either be combined with others or perhaps expanded.
  • I would also avoid bullet lists like the SPorts section in favor of prose, wherever possible.
  • Also watch out for WP:OVERLINKing - the CMA is linked twice in the lead alone
  • A model article is useful for ideas and examples to follow - there are many FAs on cities and Hamilton, Ontario is one. It is from 2007, so it may be a bit out of date compared to more recent FAs

Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:32, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]