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The Magpie (Monet)

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I've listed this article for peer review because I would like to have it assessed as B-Class and prepare it for GAR. My research tells me that there are more sources available to expand further about the painting, but many of them were published quite some time ago and are either obscure or difficult to find. I was recently able to track a book down at my local library only to find that all five pages on the painting had been ripped out of the book decades ago. I realize that I'm going to have to put a great deal more effort into this, but I'm hoping a peer review can at least point the way. Viriditas (talk) 08:23, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Doing. Ceoil (talk) 16:39, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

FYI, I forgot to mention that I deliberately left out the discussion of Monet's suicide attempt, and instead wrote "Recovering from an episode of depression". The reason is, at the time I was writing this, the sources I had available to me did not agree on whether Monet really did attempt suicide. If there is a consensus by historians on this, I would be happy to alter or modify the text if it is important considering the proximity in time to this episode and the winter work. I should also mention that the colors are completely off in the current infobox image, as the original is far more grey than blue. If the reviewer can suggest how we can get a more accurate image of the work in the article, I would appreciate it. This is the second image we have used, as the first was horribly tinted by a yellow light. Viriditas (talk) 01:44, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

You might look to sources on Courbet for something on the development of snowscapes; personally I'd show one of his snow scenes for contrast (The Fox in the Snow or the stag hunt which I can never remember the name of). You should perhaps mention that rejection by the Salon was by no means unusual, either for Monet or in general. The 1867 committee rejected something like two-thirds of the submissions and Monet also had his submissions rejected that year and in 1869 or 1870 (or maybe both?). I don't think you'll find any definitive stuff on his suicide attempt - it is often presented as a melodrama that he created to win sympathy and breathing space from his creditors. Yomangani^talk 11:41, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

The Halali of the Stag apparently (though the reproduction there is terrible). Yomangani^talk 11:48, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

How familiar was Monet with the works of Breugel? Might he have drawn inspiration from the snowscapes - or the only other painting that comes to mind to feature a magpie? -- Theramin (talk) 01:51, 22 November 2011 (UTC)