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Template:CCSA Member Clubs

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The result of the discussion was delete. Opabinia regalis (talk) 01:01, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is no article on the template's topic and at least one of the linked articles makes no mention of the organization. ...William 22:49, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Non-notable navbox topic unsupported by stand-alone article or list per WP:NAVBOX criteria. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:28, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Dirtlaywer. Alakzi (talk) 10:45, 4 August 2015 (UTC) What's a "laywer"? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:50, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Although I do find it troubling that the nav box was created without a corresponding article on the organization (and I checked to make sure the article had not been deleted: it hasn't), with one redlinked exception, the listed "members" of the CCSA are, in fact, members of that organization. So the question I ask myself is this: If there are a number of members, at least some of which are apparently notable enough to have their own articles in Wikipedia, is the larger membership organization also notable? The answer, of course, is that their notability does not confer notability on the organization they each are members of. So the next question I asked myself is whether the organization itself is notable? The answer is that it might be. The organization apparently coordinates a number of swimming meets and related activities. Although I haven't looked for news coverage of those events, they are the type of event that local news programs like to cover for the "human interest" angle, and the coverage may be out there. But even a (hypothetical) dab of local coverage isn't enough, by itself, to make the organization notable enough for Wikipedia. So instead of looking for notability of the parent organization, I asked myself if the template is useful. This is where it shines. Any local user who is interested in any of these organizations because of their relationship to swimming would likely be interested in the other organizations in the nav box as well. This particular nav box appears to be the only way the organizations are linked. Some of them are country clubs, and are related that way. Some of them are cricket clubs, and have that connection. All of them have swimming available for the members, and apparently compete in local swimming meets. Of course, someone is bound to respond that this is what categories are for, but currently there are individuals who are bent on removing categories from every page they are attached to, if the category isn't a defining characteristic, and there is no review process for this unless an interested editor happens to notice the change. (Also, in my opinion, nav boxes are more intuitive than categories for new Wikipedia readers.)Etamni | ✉ | ✓  20:18, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete—listify or use categories as appropriate, but the navbox is not appropriate per cited guidelines. Imzadi 1979 → 23:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, better covered by a list article or category. Frietjes (talk) 15:34, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox Wikipedia campus ambassador

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2015 September 16. Opabinia regalis (talk) 07:11, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant to {{infobox user}}, with |status=Campus Ambassador. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:19, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Tentative Delete This one is used quite a bit on user pages, but based on the random sample of users, it's not clear that they needed the (slight) additional functionality. There is a regional bias in the use, and I suspect that many of the users simply copied what someone else was doing, not understanding that there may have been a better template available. Also, despite the fact that each use of the template has a notice regarding this discussion, none of the users of the template have (so far) voiced any concerns about the potential deletion. Etamni | ✉ | ✓  19:21, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge with |classes=. Alakzi (talk) 17:39, 6 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox road small

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The result of the discussion was overwhemingly not merged. (non-admin closure) BethNaught (talk) 09:54, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Infobox road small with Template:Infobox road.
Stylistic fork; compactness should be achieved by omitting unnecessary parameters. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:54, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Could you elaborate on what you mean by "compactness should be achieved by omitting unnecessary parameters"? I ask because I foresee more complexity added to an already esoteric template just to achieve the small version. –Fredddie™ 21:27, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose—there's a lot more to each of the templates than the nominator seems to know. Merging them would add unnecessary complexity for no outward benefit. The smaller box is not the same width and doesn't just "omit[] unnecessary parameters": it has a different scheme, by design, for indicating the location of a highway instead of termini/intermediate junctions/countries/states/provinces/counties/cities/villages/etc.... A merged template would require complex coding to render at the desired size and shut off all of the components of the main template that are intentionally excluded from display. That would stymy the current work in progress at converting the main template to Lua. In the future, I would suggest that the proposer should be so kind as to drop a note on template talk pages about his ideas before rushing off to TfD/TfM with a half-cocked idea. I don't foresee much support from those who actually work on maintaining these two templates. Imzadi 1979 → 23:02, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I oppose most template merging because it is better to have more options than less. This is no exception. Small roads should have a different infobox from major highways. PointsofNoReturn (talk) 00:22, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • @PointsofNoReturn: this isn't for "small roads" vs. "major highways". The one is for use as the main infobox at the top of an article while the other is for use in other sections like on M-553 (Michigan highway), or repeated in lists like Business routes of Interstate 96. The "small" in the name is for a smaller visual footprint and a specifically limited set of parameters to enforce that smaller footprint. (And in at least one case, a different parameter to replace several others to enforce that smaller footprint.) Because the former M-554 is merged into a section of the M-553 article or the various BL/BS I-96s are merged into a single article, they get the smaller box. A different business route, like M-28 Business (Ishpeming–Negaunee, Michigan), has a stand-alone article and uses the full infobox. the TL;DR version: it's not about types of highways, but types of usages. Imzadi 1979 → 04:04, 3 August 2015 (UTC)\[reply]
  • Oppose - Infobox road small has a specific function to be a smaller version of Infobox road that is more suited for RCS lists and for small subsections describing a route in a main article of another route in which the regular Infobox road would be space consuming. Dough4872 00:23, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, per User:Dough4872 and User:Imzadi1979. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 03:49, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per "wrong place, wrong time." Infobox road small will probably use Infobox road as at least part of its backend at some point as we/I see fit, but that point is not even close yet. Regardless of the backend coding, however, Infobox road small should always be a separate template with separate styling. As noted by Dough and Imzadi, Infobox road small has a distinct role on road articles. -happy5214 05:51, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment (General reply to all of the above) Properly configured, an instance of {{Infobox road}} would take up no ore room than the current {{Infobox road small}}. No=one has advanced any other cogent argument as to why two infoboxes are needed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:48, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, seems to be a duplicate of {{Infobox street}} anyway (eg: Park Lane). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:49, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose; I've looked at pages that use it well, e.g. the Business Routes section of Interstate 83 and the Special Routes section of M-60 (Michigan highway), and it works much better in these places than the bigger infobox would. I'm also concerned about the use of two infoboxes in the same article with different information. If the York business route for I-83 is given the normal infobox, the stupidest person reading it will understand that "Location: York PA" and "Existed: 1957-present" applies to the business route, not to the entire interstate. Computers, however, aren't as smart as stupid people: I fear that having multiple primary infoboxes with different information will make the article less machine-readable. It's easy to instruct your computer to treat each instance of {{Infobox road small}} separately, thereby understanding that the M-60 small infoboxes are for different roads, neither of them the primary topic of the article, but it seems like we'd induce a bit more confusion if your computer is faced with three {{Infobox road}}s on M-60 and two on I-83. Nyttend (talk) 21:08, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. While I do believe these templates could be merged, I do not think that's an optimal outcome. A "proper configuration" is a gross understatement of the amount of shoehorning that would need to be done. Adding the half-dozen or so (I didn't count, but I'm taking an educated guess) parserfunctions needed to whittle {{Infobox road}} down to the {{Infobox road small}} footprint would add to page load times. A page like List of Farm to Market Roads in Texas (1–99) with over 100 instances of {{Infobox road small}} would frustrate some readers. The small infobox was specifically designed to present the relevant information about a highway without the bloat, for lack of a better word, of the main infobox. –Fredddie™ 23:48, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Compactness should be achieved by omitting unnecessary merge proposals. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 21:53, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Different applications, different appearances, different parameters; bones being picked again most likely (but I won't touch that with a 30 foot pole). Those above me have also neatly surmised the same opinion as I. - Floydian τ ¢ 01:35, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Sorry to say, but proposal should have been sensible, saying that "compactness should be achieved by omitting unnecessary parameters" is not worth. No parameter is unnecessary, if intention of nominator is to "omit" some parameters then I will surely oppose this. --Human3015Send WikiLove  03:49, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I will add to my comment, if proposal would have been like this way, "We use same Template:Infobox settlement for both Metrocity and small villages, on same basis if we merge these road templates for universal use for any kind of road without removing any parameter then that will be nice". In this case I would have supported the merge, but I'm against removing of any kind of parameter as said by nominator.--Human3015Send WikiLove  03:57, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Human3015: The nominator did not suggest that any of the information contained within these infoboxes should be removed. What Andy meant was that, if one infobox were to provide all of the parameters of both, people could choose which ones to use on a given article. Alakzi (talk) 12:08, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. After reviewing the examples given where the templates are used together the way they were intended to work, I think that merging them has the potential to create unnecessary complexity. If someone experienced in template design wants to create an easy-to-use replacement template that would fulfill both purposes, and could demonstrate that the process of migrating the information to the new template would be seamless, I could support such a merge. As is, there is no real cost to keeping both separate templates for now. Etamni | ✉ | ✓  19:07, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per the oppose vote that wasn't signed; while they *could* be merged I don't think that is the right direction to go. --Rschen7754 23:25, 16 August 2015 (UTC) Apparently Fredddie's vote.[reply]
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Template:Infobox presidential library

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Jenks24 (talk) 09:05, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant to {{Infobox library}} (or possibly {{Infobox building}}). Limited potential for use. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:47, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

*I don't see the harm of this template. There are 13 presidential libraries operated by NARA, with the 14th in development, and there will be more built in the future.   Spartan7W §   17:12, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox VFA season

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The result of the discussion was merge. Concerns have been addressed with the production of a demo version. Opabinia regalis (talk) 06:04, 16 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Infobox VFA season with Template:Infobox Australian rules football season.
As proposed when the VFA template was created. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:36, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • As ever with this sort of thing, I don't think anyone objects to a merger on theoretical grounds. The problem is how this always plays out in practice. After a month or two at TfD it inevitably gets closed as merge, generally regardless of any genuine concerns. It's then stuck in a holding pattern for months before a quick and dirty fix that no one quite thinks is optimal is rolled out simply to get it out of the TfD holding cell. Then the people who propose such things can pat themselves on the back as job well done, despite the template never actually working as we had been assured it would. How about before closing this as merge someone actually creates a mockup at Template:Infobox Australian rules football season/sandbox or similar, so we can actually see what will happen? I recall when the AFL biography infoboxes were merged it ended up with editors having to fix thousands of articles by hand, despite the assurances that a bot would be able to do it when it was at TfD. Obviously this isn't nearly as big an issue as that because the VFA season infobox is only used on a few articles, but the principle remains the same. Jenks24 (talk) 09:30, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for that, Alakzi. I worry a bit that the more gets merged into the "Infobox Australian rules football season", the harder it is for mere mortals to actually use it, but in this case it works well enough. Weak support. Jenks24 (talk) 13:54, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox NHL Stadium Series (4 games)

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by Jenks24 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 17:12, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:34, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Even though the standard notice was sent during the nomination process, I've explicitly asked the template creator to comment here. It looks like a lot of work went into this template, but it's not clear when/if anyone was planning to use it. Etamni | ✉ | ✓  18:56, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox NBL Canada team season

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by Edgar181 (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Single use. Redundant to {{Infobox basketball club season}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:33, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Neighborhood Louisville KY

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Alakzi (talk) 19:11, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary wrapper of {{Infobox settlement}}. with only five uses. Should be Subst:, then deleted. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:31, 2 August 2015 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:31, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Synod of Bishops

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) BethNaught (talk) 10:08, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unused. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:29, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox weather type

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Alakzi (talk) 19:12, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Single use. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:27, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Ukrainian legislative office

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The result of the discussion was merge as proposed. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 12:40, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Infobox Ukrainian legislative office with Template:Infobox officeholder.
The Ukrainian template just adds extra rows for offices held, to {{Infobox officeholder}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:22, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Officeholder" already has parameters for multiple offices. Bearcat (talk) 20:13, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, everything you ask for already exists in {{Infobox officeholder}} — an "order =" parameter is already present, and multiple offices can already be added by numbering them as office1, office2, office3, etc. Bearcat (talk) 20:12, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Vancite doi

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 12:44, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now unused. It can be deleted. Magioladitis (talk) 18:21, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox bank

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The result of the discussion was merge if feasible. (non-admin closure) Alakzi (talk) 19:14, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant to {{Infobox company}}, from which it was forked, and used on only one article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:18, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Kenya constituency

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) BethNaught (talk) 09:41, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

An unnecessary wrapper of {{Infobox constituency}}. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:11, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox American championship car race report 2

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The result of the discussion was merge {{Infobox American championship car race report 2}} into the other one. (non-admin closure) BethNaught (talk) 20:49, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Infobox American championship car race report 2 with Template:Infobox American championship car race report.
#2 appears to be an unexplained fork; if the differences are necessary, they should be rolled back into the original, to reduce the maintenance overhead and reduce confusion for editors, as explained at Wikipedia:Infobox consolidation. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:09, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox country UK

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The result of the discussion was keep. Jenks24 (talk) 09:10, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

An unnecessary wrapper, used on just four articles. Should be Subst: then deleted. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:50, 2 August 2015 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:50, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If there is no alternative way to include the child infoboxes (which were added per a discussion at the articles) without including excessive syntax on each article, then I think the only option is to keep the wrapper. A template editor could add custom fields to Template:Infobox country, but I doubt that will happen considering most custom fields on that template don't work correctly already. Rob984 (talk) 12:20, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Rob984: Please provide a link to the agreement at the Wales article alluded to above. I've been through the Talk page archives and couldn't find it. Thanks. Daicaregos (talk) 11:39, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Daicaregos, we discussed it here. The child infoboxes are required to include the separate "British Government" section. Rob984 (talk) 15:28, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Using the wrapper, the syntax is simple:
|monarch = [[Elizabeth II]]
|first_minister = {{nowrap|[[Carwyn Jones]] [[Members of the National Assembly for Wales|AM]]}}
|prime_minister = {{nowrap|[[David Cameron]] [[MPs elected in the United Kingdom general election, 2010|MP]]}}
|secretary_of_state = {{nowrap|[[Stephen Crabb]] [[MPs elected in the United Kingdom general election, 2010|MP]]}}
Without the wrapper:
|leader_title1 = [[Monarchy of the United Kingdom|Monarch]]
|leader_name1 = [[Elizabeth II]]
|leader_title2 = [[First Minister of Wales|First Minister]]
|leader_name2 = {{nowrap|[[Carwyn Jones]] [[Members of the National Assembly for Wales|AM]]}}
{{infobox|child=yes|headerstyle = text-align:left;
| header1 = [[British Government]]
}}
|leader_title3 = [[Prime Minister of the United Kingdom|Prime Minister]]
|leader_name3 = {{nowrap|[[David Cameron]] [[MPs elected in the United Kingdom general election, 2010|MP]]}}
|leader_title4 = {{nowrap|[[Secretary of State for Wales|Secretary of State]]}}
|leader_name4 = {{nowrap|[[Stephen Crabb]] [[MPs elected in the United Kingdom general election, 2010|MP]]}}
I don't see the logic in the argument, "this template is unnecessary as it is only used on a small number of articles". If it is stable and removes duplication across those articles, then what is the problem? Most infobox templates aren't "necessary", but are helpful, convenient, help maintain consistency, and therefore reduce maintenance. Im pretty sure I said all this in the last discussion regarding template:Infobox England region. WP:Infobox consolidation refers to reducing maintenance. I don't see how deleting this template would help do that.
Rob984 (talk) 16:09, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for providing a link. I had read that discussion, but as no editor agreed to, or even suggested, setting up a separate template, it didn't seem relevant - nor is a conversation on 'Template:Infobox England region' relevant to 'Template:Infobox country UK'. Daicaregos (talk) 16:32, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Creating a wrapper is not "setting up a separate template". The wrapper automatically completes parts of the template (which can still be overridden), and adds the child infoboxes. Nobody objected when the template was added the articles. See WP:SILENCE. You can propose removing the wrapper from the four articles and re-adding the duplicated fields and syntax, on the basis that "the wrapper in unnecessary", if you like. Rob984 (talk) 23:22, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Creating a wrapper is precisely "setting up a separate template". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:01, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Why doesn't someone do that, then propose deletion? I'm not even sure the template editors that edit that template are even competent at adding custom fields. Nobody seems to be interested in fixing the numerous issues with existing custom fields such as the language or capital fields. And I'm pretty sure nobody wants any more fields akin to the French fields, which are only applicable to France. So I would have to demonstrate the additional fields are beneficial for other countries, which considering few administrative divisions actually use that infobox, would be difficult. Rob984 (talk) 10:24, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox Alternative names

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The result of the discussion was delete after the current uses of it have been replaced by {{Infobox Chinese}}. Jenks24 (talk) 09:15, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant to {{Infobox Chinese}}. Alakzi (talk) 16:40, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as redundant (but perhaps "alternative names" is a better name?). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:51, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This template is not 'redundant'. It has nothing to do with the '{{Infobox Chinese}}' template; it can also be used in articles without Chinese-character names. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Douglas the Comeback Kid (talk • contribs) 11:05, 3 August 2015‎
    • Used to do what? All it's got is a header and a data field; you might as well be constructing an infobox manually. Alakzi (talk) 10:18, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • But it's not, is it? It's only used on five articles; and in each case it is being used to hold a Chinese name, right below an instance of {{Infobox Chinese}}. On Zhou Enlai and Liu Shaoqi, it even duplicates information in the other template. And like a lot of instances of the latter template, it is better replaced with one which is subject-specific, like this. Even then, the vast number of Chinese names and transcriptions are crufty and breach WP:NOT. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:07, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • Just because it has only been used in articles about people/things with Chinese-character names doesn't mean it overlaps with the template '{{Infobox Chinese}}'. The fact that it has an empty data field gives flexibility to users, so that they can tailor it according to the articles. The template, as used in the articles 'Zhou Enlai' and 'Liu Shaoqi', doesn't duplicate the information provided by the template 'Infobox Chinese', because the 'Infobox Chinese' template only shows the indications of pronunciations of the characters like a textbook (e. g., 'Zhōu Ēnlái' and 'Chou1 En1-lai2); it doesn't show the alternative 'spellings' (e. g., 'Zhou Enlai' and 'Chou En-lai') – alternative ways of writing out the names as in everyday writing. I agree with Andy that there is no need to use this template if the information provided by this template can also be provided by other pre-existing templates. However, having said that, I'll still argue for keeping this template, since it may also be useful in articles not involving Chinese-character names. Douglas the Comeback Kid (talk) 13:06, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete there doesn't seem to be much of any defined structure in this template, it is almost a bare {{infobox}}; it most certainly is not defined in a manner suitable for only use with alternative names, since there's nothing related to names in any of the coding -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:30, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, basically equivalent to using {{infobox}} directly. Frietjes (talk) 15:31, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Kraxler (talk) 12:51, 23 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is now unused. We can delete it. Magioladitis (talk) 08:34, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:02, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would tag this for CSD as the creator, but others have edited it disqualifying it from that criteria. Basically, it has no use any more and needs to be deleted. TrueCRaysball | #RaysUp 06:54, 2 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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