Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/SMS Königsberg (1905)
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SMS Königsberg (1905) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
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Another German light cruiser, I'd like to have this one through FAC in time for the centenary of her sinking in July 2015. Thanks in advance to all who take the time to review the article. Parsecboy (talk) 19:42, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Support on prose per standard disclaimer. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 20:23, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Support: Great work as usual, Parsec. Well done. I only have a couple of minor suggestions/nitpicks: AustralianRupert (talk) 22:31, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
- unless I missed it, I couldn't see mention in the body of the 10 x 3.7 cm MKs that are listed in the infobox
- HRS v5 page 138 does not mention these guns. According to HRS the ship was later augmented with 10 x 5.2 cm SKs MisterBee1966 (talk) 15:06, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure when those got added to the infobox - I must not have noticed when they slipped in.
- Should it not mention the 10 x 3.7 cm MKs? MisterBee1966 (talk) 14:02, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- Neither Gröner or HRS mention these guns, so I don't think they ought to be mentioned. I don't know where they came from. Parsecboy (talk) 00:28, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry my mistake, my version of HRS mentions 10 x 5.2 cm SKs. MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, for some reason I thought I had added those when I took out the 3.7 cm MK line. Thanks. Parsecboy (talk) 12:58, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry my mistake, my version of HRS mentions 10 x 5.2 cm SKs. MisterBee1966 (talk) 08:41, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Neither Gröner or HRS mention these guns, so I don't think they ought to be mentioned. I don't know where they came from. Parsecboy (talk) 00:28, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Should it not mention the 10 x 3.7 cm MKs? MisterBee1966 (talk) 14:02, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not sure when those got added to the infobox - I must not have noticed when they slipped in.
- HRS v5 page 138 does not mention these guns. According to HRS the ship was later augmented with 10 x 5.2 cm SKs MisterBee1966 (talk) 15:06, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- this seems inconsistent: "She was commissioned into the High Seas Fleet for sea trials on 6 April 1907" (in the body - Service history section) v."Commissioned: 4 June 1906" (in the infobox)
- Fixed.
- there are a couple of overlinked terms: "HMS Hyacinth (1898)", and "Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck"
- Both fixed now.
- in the lead: "joined Lieutenant Colonel Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck's guerrilla campaign". Perhaps add "ashore" after "campaign"...
- How about "...campaign in East Africa"? That would also be an easy way to pipe the East Africa Campaign link per below.
- perhaps work in a link to East African Campaign (World War I) in the lead or body
- How about in both places?
- in the lead, I think it might also be a good idea to link Battle of Rufiji Delta in some way given the heading in the body
- Good idea.
- in the body, I think a link to the Battle of Zanzibar would enhance the article, given it is linked in the lead
- Also a good suggestion. Parsecboy (talk) 13:32, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Support, indeed another great article. I made a few minor edits, feel free to revert MisterBee1966 (talk) 15:00, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks MB, they all look good to me! Parsecboy (talk) 13:32, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
CommentsSupport- No dab links (no action req'd).
- No issues with external links (no action req'd).
- Images lack alt text so you might consider adding it (not an ACR req, suggestion only).
- No duplicate links (no action req'd).
- Images all appear to be PD and have the req'd info (no action req'd).
- Captions look fine (no action req'd).
- The Citation Check Tool shows a couple of minor issues with reference consolidation:
- Bennett, p. 134 Multiple references contain the same content
- B134 Multiple references are using the same name
- Both fixed, good catch on these.
- MOS issue: The commons box should be moved into the last section of the article per WP:LAYOUT.
- Fixed.
- Repetitive prose here: " Looff decided to abandon the normal peacetime training schedule and returned to Dar es Salaam on 24 July to replenish his coal and other stores. Looff also made efforts to organize..." Specifically starting two sentences the same way one after the other (i.e. "Looff"). Perhaps reword one? Anotherclown (talk) 10:13, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Changed the second "Looff" to "He" - does that work? Thanks for looking the article over. Parsecboy (talk) 12:47, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yes that's fine. Added my support now. Anotherclown (talk) 03:34, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- Changed the second "Looff" to "He" - does that work? Thanks for looking the article over. Parsecboy (talk) 12:47, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Support Comments
- I've cleaned up the infobox a bit, but you need to add the range and provide links for ihp, scuttled, knots, nautical miles, scrapped and torpedo tubes there.
- Should all be fixed.
- In the text you need to add links for scuttled, ship class, knot, amidships, Cape Station.
- All fixed.
- What's the proper term for Marine-type boiler?
- Corrected.
- Add horsepower figure to main body (with link).
- Done.
- What damage, if any, did she suffer in the collision with Dresden.
- Added.
- Watch your rounding on the torpedo diameter conversions and for the guns of the monitors.
- Fixed - good catch.
- ISSN needed for the Patience magazine article.
- Need to do a bit of digging on this one - several publications in worldcat but none match the publisher info I have.
- Suggest that you spell out the states in the places of publication for the benefit of non-US readers.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:21, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
- Just removed them all per my latest practice. Thanks for catching all this stuff. Parsecboy (talk) 21:48, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
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